Apple Updates Processors & Prices of MacBook Pro with Retina Display

[Frick]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

News Flash. Its not the DAMN RESOLUTION that is useless. Its that RESOLUTION at 13 INCHES. At that size 1,400 bucks is just flat out a gimmick.

And still I disagree. Would I personally make use of that? Probably not, but it would be rather nice to have. I'm sure there are people in the world who could make use of it. And The only other 13-incher here that has at least 1920 x 1080 is the Asus Zenbook, which still is fairly pricey.

[tokyoduong]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

News Flash. Its not the DAMN RESOLUTION that is useless. Its that RESOLUTION at 13 INCHES. At that size 1,400 bucks is just flat out a gimmick.

It may be a gimmick to you but 1.4k for a laptop more portable than almost anything else on the market with the best screen you can buy in its class. They charge you a premium for having the latest and greatest. You know this, i know everyone here knows this.

I'm posting this again to show you that it is not a gimmick. You eyes can see way more than this display can do. Therefore, this is no gimmick and it is in fact useful for many including me.
http://www.clarkvision.com/articles/eye-resolution.html

[tokyoduong]

Originally Posted by themailman78

news flash. Its not the damn resolution that is useless. Its that resolution at 13 inches. At that size 1,400 bucks is just flat out a gimmick.

Originally Posted by easy rhino

that is exactly what was said of those 37in monitors with 1080p resolution. They said that 1080p resolution at 37inches is useless!!!

Also note that you are not paying 1400 just for the display...

Originally Posted by themailman78

i didn't. You want another infraction for putting words in my mouth?

lol

[AthlonX2]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I didn't. You want another infraction for putting words in my mouth?

2560 x 1600 gives you same amount of desktop space on a 13" as it does a 30".

I think you should be posting news (something you havent done in 8 months) instead of acting like you have powers of moderation.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by AthlonX2

2560 x 1600 gives you same amount of desktop space on a 13" as it does a 30".

When you run Windows. Otherwise be prepared to get a magnifying glass and to squint because OS X tries to scale if it knows the size of the display. The 15" MBP with Retina does not make the desktop look smaller, it scales well, and costs a sh*t ton.

[erocker]

After reading through this thread I think I'm going to buy one. I wonder if anyone will get upset about my buying decision? I also wonder why anyone would make it their business? Do we have a lot of financial planning and life-tasking guru's on TPU?

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by erocker

After reading through this thread I think I'm going to buy one. I wonder if anyone will get upset about my buying decision?

Only if you're threatening your livelihood by doing it or getting it for all the wrong reasons.

Originally Posted by erocker

I also wonder why anyone would make it their business?

Because you're telling us about it instead of keeping it to yourself.

Originally Posted by erocker

Do we have a lot of financial planning and life-tasking guru's on TPU?

I think we have a lot of, "I know everything" gurus here at TPU.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by erocker

After reading through this thread I think I'm going to buy one.

Do eet! 3 things can happen: you sell it off after x days/months/years, you grow to love Apple/the screen and proclaim your eternal love, or nothing happens

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by tokyoduong

Name me one high res tablet less than half the price of ipad3/4.

How many would you like?

Onda V972, Chuwi V99, Freelander PD80, Nextway F9X, Ainol Novo9, Window N90FHD, Ployer momo11 Master, Hyundai X900 and the CUBE U9GT V all sell for roughly have the price if not less. Most of them are 1.5ghz ARM quad cores with multi core video that perform very well at that resolution (just under the sammy quad core). I personally purchased the Onda V972 since it seems to have better support than most of the others and features and aluminum case, lighter weight, and smaller dimensions than the Ipad.

[Deadlyraver]

About time they decided to look around the market outside of their ripoff community.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by AthlonX2

2560 x 1600 gives you same amount of desktop space on a 13" as it does a 30"

Again good luck doing any work on that for a long period of time. 13" doesn't magically bend physics because it has high resolution. Its still only a 13" screen.

[Kantastic]

Originally Posted by erocker

After reading through this thread I think I'm going to buy one. I wonder if anyone will get upset about my buying decision? I also wonder why anyone would make it their business? Do we have a lot of financial planning and life-tasking guru's on TPU?

Nobody is going to be upset, just prepare to be chastised because people (not me, because i<3Apple) will feel you're an idiot.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by erocker

After reading through this thread I think I'm going to buy one. I wonder if anyone will get upset about my buying decision? I also wonder why anyone would make it their business? Do we have a lot of financial planning and life-tasking guru's on TPU?

people will get upset. they will call you an apple fanboy and say you wasted your money because you were blinded my marketing and gimmicks.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

people will get upset. they will call you an apple fanboy and say you wasted your money because you were blinded my marketing and gimmicks.

I KNEW YOU WORKED FOR APPLE!

[Prima.Vera]

Originally Posted by erocker

I wonder if anyone will get upset about my buying decision? I also wonder why anyone would make it their business?

Not my business, don't care, hehe. But ,you know, sharing the info about you buying something overpriced and bragging about it seems like showing off. Showing off can lead to vanity. Vanity to snobism...You get the idea

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

people will get upset. they will call you an apple fanboy and say you wasted your money because you were blinded my marketing and gimmicks.

See I don't think they are a bad product at all simply that it is immensely overpriced for what you are purchasing.

[wickerman]

Originally Posted by cdawall

See I don't think they are a bad product at all simply that it is immensely overpriced for what you are purchasing.

Everyone is quick to point out that you can get a laptop from a competitor using similarly performing hardware for, well as you put it "immensely" cheaper, but a lot of people seem to ignore the other services Apple offer with their products that certainly add a lot of value. Automatic backups with free and expandable storage through iCloud is very useful on a laptop and even more so on other mobile devices and is something Microsoft is only now getting serious about but most other manufacturers won't go much further than offering you a few gb of cloud storage for you to manage yourself. Samsung has some services to compete but not quite as useful yet. But overwhelmingly what I hear is the best value Apple offers is their warranty and tech support service through local Apple Store locations. To be able to simply walk into the store and walk out with a hardware repair or replacement is far better than sending your laptop (and data) half way across the country and waiting a week or more to have it repaired and then sent back.

The hardware and software are only part of it, to say the warranty and convenience of service hold no value at all is just silly to me. I personally am willing to pay a premium for warranty and good service, I buy Dell monitors for that reason. I had my USB ports go bad on my U2711 last year and after 1 email I had a replacement at my door by noon the next day, with a pre-paid sticker to ship my defective unit back in the same box. Sure I paid like $500 more than an ebay Korean brand, but I can't imagine even if I had a proper warranty on one of those monitors, the cost of shipping my defective unit back to Korea and waiting for a replacement would probably wipe out that saving pretty quickly.

[Prima.Vera]

Originally Posted by wickerman

I had my USB ports go bad on my U2711 last year and after 1 email I had a replacement at my door by noon the next day, with a pre-paid sticker to ship my defective unit back in the same box. Sure I paid like $500 more than an ebay Korean brand, but I can't imagine even if I had a proper warranty on one of those monitors, the cost of shipping my defective unit back to Korea and waiting for a replacement would probably wipe out that saving pretty quickly.

You're lucky to live in States. Here in Europe or Asia, you wont have this service, not in a million years. Sure Apple have some good service, but they took like 2 months to replace my little iPod nano a while ago, and that after 1 million mails and calls, and trips to the local Apple support center for chasing them...

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by Prima.Vera

You're lucky to live in States. Here in Europe or Asia, you wont have this service, not in a million years. Sure Apple have some good service, but they took like 2 months to replace my little iPod nano a while ago, and that after 1 million mails and calls, and trips to the local Apple support center for chasing them...

Yup. They're pretty responsive here but I think that Apple knows that a large portion of their market is in the US. This in by no means intended to be an insult but Americans tend to buy shiny things more than the average person in the world.

[tokyoduong]

Originally Posted by cdawall

How many would you like?

Onda V972, Chuwi V99, Freelander PD80, Nextway F9X, Ainol Novo9, Window N90FHD, Ployer momo11 Master, Hyundai X900 and the CUBE U9GT V all sell for roughly have the price if not less. Most of them are 1.5ghz ARM quad cores with multi core video that perform very well at that resolution (just under the sammy quad core). I personally purchased the Onda V972 since it seems to have better support than most of the others and features and aluminum case, lighter weight, and smaller dimensions than the Ipad.

I apologize and you're right. There are other tablets with high res screen for half the price or less. But those things will fall apart like a teenager's cratered pimpled face. You can hate on apple all you want but you can't hate on their build quality. Regardless, you are right.

Originally Posted by wickerman

Everyone is quick to point out that you can get a laptop from a competitor using similarly performing hardware for, well as you put it "immensely" cheaper, but a lot of people seem to ignore the other services Apple offer with their products that certainly add a lot of value. Automatic backups with free and expandable storage through iCloud is very useful on a laptop and even more so on other mobile devices and is something Microsoft is only now getting serious about but most other manufacturers won't go much further than offering you a few gb of cloud storage for you to manage yourself. Samsung has some services to compete but not quite as useful yet. But overwhelmingly what I hear is the best value Apple offers is their warranty and tech support service through local Apple Store locations. To be able to simply walk into the store and walk out with a hardware repair or replacement is far better than sending your laptop (and data) half way across the country and waiting a week or more to have it repaired and then sent back.

The hardware and software are only part of it, to say the warranty and convenience of service hold no value at all is just silly to me. I personally am willing to pay a premium for warranty and good service, I buy Dell monitors for that reason. I had my USB ports go bad on my U2711 last year and after 1 email I had a replacement at my door by noon the next day, with a pre-paid sticker to ship my defective unit back in the same box. Sure I paid like $500 more than an ebay Korean brand, but I can't imagine even if I had a proper warranty on one of those monitors, the cost of shipping my defective unit back to Korea and waiting for a replacement would probably wipe out that saving pretty quickly.

Apple just has good build quality and hassle free warranties. Their product specs are not by any means superior(except the new screen) but the overall product is superior. You do pay a massive premium for it and are limited to what you can do because it is locked down.

Originally Posted by Aquinus

Yup. They're pretty responsive here but I think that Apple knows that a large portion of their market is in the US. This in by no means intended to be an insult but Americans tend to buy shiny things more than the average person in the world.

Yes they are pretty responsive. I usually take it to the store if i have problems with the hardware. When I wanted to sell my ipod touch 1st gen, I went to the store with the buyer and had them remove everything and loaded the buyer's accounts. They also checked to see if everything is working right so the buyer is happy. I sold my ipod touch for 80% of what i paid for it after using it for 6 months. I have not seen any other brand that will give that kind of customer service or hold that kind of resale value.

Originally Posted by Prima.Vera

You're lucky to live in States. Here in Europe or Asia, you wont have this service, not in a million years. Sure Apple have some good service, but they took like 2 months to replace my little iPod nano a while ago, and that after 1 million mails and calls, and trips to the local Apple support center for chasing them...

Europe has better medical and education system. Asia has cheap cheap cheap stuff and you can have multiple wives legally. I'd pay more for tablet to legally marry 7 women. 1 for each day of the week

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by tokyoduong

I apologize and you're right. There are other tablets with high res screen for half the price or less. But those things will fall apart like a teenager's cratered pimpled face. You can hate on apple all you want but you can't hate on their build quality. Regardless, you are right.




Apple just has good build quality and hassle free warranties. Their product specs are not by any means superior(except the new screen) but the overall product is superior. You do pay a massive premium for it and are limited to what you can do because it is locked down.



Yes they are pretty responsive. I usually take it to the store if i have problems with the hardware. When I wanted to sell my ipod touch 1st gen, I went to the store with the buyer and had them remove everything and loaded the buyer's accounts. They also checked to see if everything is working right so the buyer is happy. I sold my ipod touch for 80% of what i paid for it after using it for 6 months. I have not seen any other brand that will give that kind of customer service or hold that kind of resale value.



Europe has better medical and education system. Asia has cheap cheap cheap stuff and you can have multiple wives legally. I'd pay more for tablet to legally marry 7 women. 1 for each day of the week

Build Quality? Really? Do you know how many iMac have died on me in the past three years? Apple is no where NEAR what they used to be.

[Frick]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Build Quality? Really? Do you know how many iMac have died on me in the past three years? Apple is no where NEAR what they used to be.

Their phones and pads are quite good though. I think they were talking about them.

[Easy Rhino]

they make THE best tablets and notebooks. their imacs went downhill a couple of years ago but their new lineup is made better than ever. sony, hp, dell can't even come close to the imac. they are large piles of crap in comparison.

[Frick]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

they make THE best tablets and notebooks. their imacs went downhill a couple of years ago but their new lineup is made better than ever. sony, hp, dell can't even come close to the imac. they are large piles of crap in comparison.

Ehhhh I wouldn't say crap. And it depends on which models you are comparing, Elitebooks and equivalent machines are usually pretty sturdy. my sisters small Lenovo Thinkpad Edge something is surprisingly sturdy for something that was about $500.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by Frick

Ehhhh I wouldn't say crap. And it depends on which models you are comparing, Elitebooks and equivalent machines are usually pretty sturdy. my sisters small Lenovo Thinkpad Edge something is surprisingly sturdy for something that was about $500.

you can easily bend those when you type.