$500 budget gaming build

camoxiong · Feb 18, 2013, 05:31 AM

I got an offer on my computer for $500 by my cousin. The $500 is going for a new build. Here is the list and LMK what you think. I will be using my Xigmatek hdt-s1283 heatsink.

CPU - Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65...

Motherboard - ASRock H77M Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.c...

GPU - HIS H777QN1G2M IceQ X Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition V...

RAM - Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3...

PSU - CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 P...

Case - NZXT Source 210 Elite White Steel with painted int...

HDD - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX - Newegg.co...

Jetster · Feb 18, 2013, 06:10 AM

No frills budget build. Looks ok

What are you using it for and what resolution

The board has very little overclocking and the memory has no XMP settings

camoxiong · Feb 18, 2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetster

No frills budget build. Looks ok

What are you using it for and what resolution

The board has very little overclocking and the memory has no XMP settings

1440 x 900.

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 02:44 PM

Good build but could you squeeze in the I3?

Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65...

camoxiong · Feb 18, 2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Good build but could you squeeze in the I3?

Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65...

$45 over my budget with tax and shipping, yeah the i3 can do it.

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by camoxiong

$45 over my budget with tax and shipping, yeah the i3 can do it.

In all honesty, it would be 45$ well spent in the long run.

camoxiong · Feb 18, 2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

In all honesty, it would be 45$ well spent in the long run.

I don't mind the $45 more, it will be an upgrade from an AMD x3 450 unlocked b50.

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by camoxiong

I don't mind the $45 more, it will be an upgrade from an AMD x3 450 unlocked b50.

Yea the 2 core 4 thread CPU's are very good. I had a 2120 for a while and it was quite surprising when gaming on a 6950.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:08 PM

In all honesty, Trinity would be a better build... A10-5800K is only $129 and will stomp on the i3 2105

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

In all honesty, Trinity would be a better build...

Bad info here. Post some CPU to CPU performance using a discrete card if you can find any that beat the I3 in gaming tests.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Bad info here. Post some CPU to CPU performance using a discrete card if you can find any that beat the I3 in gaming tests.

With the same GPU(7770), Trinty A10-5800K stomps on the i3-2120. I reviewed the A10-5800K against the 3220... Did you review anything? You giving bad info. I actually own both CPU's. I will be happy to perform benchies for you.

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

With the same GPU(7770), Trinty A10-5800K stomps on the i3-2120. I reviewed the A10-5800K against the 3220... Did you review anything?

Every review I have seen favors the I3 series chips with a discrete card.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Every review I have seen favors the I3 series chips with a discrete card.

http://img.techpowerup.org/130218/Capture100.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/130218/Capture099.jpg

We could play with select benchmarks all day. I will be happy to run a quick benchmark suite at home. Processor and Gaming.

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

We could play with select benchmarks all day. I will be happy to run a quick benchmark suite at home. Processor and Gaming.

Bottom line is that you are the only one arguing this. Plenty of other reviewers would favor the I3 if used with a GPU.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Bottom line is that you are the only one arguing this. Plenty of other reviewers would favor the I3 if used with a GPU.

Like I said. I have a 3220 and a A10-5800K. I will run processor scores and some gaming.... Please provide the link for the review you posted. Multi threading, A10-5800K will stomp the 2120

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Like I said. I have a 3220 and a A10-5800K. I will run processor scores and some gaming.... Please provide the link for the review you posted.

http://www.hardcoreware.net/amd-trinity-review/4/

The only thing 5800K has for it is yes without a GPU it will beat the I3 and it can be overclocked.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

http://img.techpowerup.org/130218/Capture102.jpg

http://www.hardcoreware.net/amd-trinity-review/4/

The only thing 5800K has for it is yes without a GPU it will beat the I3 and it can be overclocked.

I am sure they did not use 13.2 Beta drivers in the testing. Ever think of that? LOL. What GPU did they use? Need more info...

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

I am sure they did not use 13.2 Beta drivers in the testing. Ever think of that?

What would 13.2 betas have to do with a CPU to CPU test not using onboard video?

Discrete GPU Gaming Performance
Although likely not the target market for someone buying a Trinity APU, we looked at performance of AMD's latest APU when paired with a high-end discrete GPU. The end result is a total loss for Trinity. If you're going to use processor graphics Trinity is a clear winner, but if you plan on pairing the APU with a high end discrete GPU you're much better off with the Core i3 3220.

Anandtechs review

EVEN IN THERE CONCLUSION!!!!

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The big exception to all of this is high-end gaming performance. If you're planning on pairing a beefy GPU with a cheap CPU, you're much better off going with Intel than AMD at this point. Single threaded performance is still far too important to most gaming workloads for the recommendation to be anything different.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:24 PM

Brandon, they used a 6870 vs. 560 in one of your links. Did you look? Keep pulling. I will post some benchmarks later. The 2120 is NOT the 3220 BTW.

de.das.dude · Feb 18, 2013, 04:24 PM

one again brandon shows his hate against AMD and love for intel. lol. its getting a bit old now brandon.

for 500$ trinity build would be good. he can add another card to cfx with the onboard.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

one again brandon shows his hate against AMD and love for intel. lol. its getting a bit old now brandon.

for 500$ trinity build would be good. he can add another card to cfx with the onboard.

Das. I will re test with the same hardware... A10-5800K vs 3220..... When I get home..... When I did the review, I just benched with no GPU..... brandon acts like he actually tested them... LOL

Fourstaff · Feb 18, 2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

I am sure they did not use 13.2 Beta drivers in the testing. Ever think of that? LOL. What GPU did they use? Need more info...

Well Brandon has given 3 proofs to back his part of argument, we have seen none of yours, so why don't you look for some proofs (internet, self generated, projections from AMD, etc) and come back so we can have a proper argument?

That said, I think we should take a long hard look at FX4300 if the mobo+4300 is cheaper than the mobo+2105, benchmarks gives them a close call (one edges over the other depending on game), but overclocked the FX4300 is pretty capable for other tasks too.

Proof: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming...w-32628-9.html

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

one again brandon shows his hate against AMD and love for intel. lol. its getting a bit old now brandon.

for 500$ trinity build would be good. he can add another card to cfx with the onboard.

LOL DDD, no just no. I show love for the faster system. Yes the 5800K makes for a nice HTPC and does OC nicely but the intel is the faster and maybe not by much but it still is the faster. Also it has a larger upgrade path (2500K/2600K/2700K/3570K/3770K) than the 5800K since its already the highest CPU in the FM2 range.

Once again DDD, I own 3 other AMD systems as crunchers so do not think I hate AMD.

drdeathx · Feb 18, 2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Well Brandon has given 3 proofs to back his part of argument, we have seen none of yours, so why don't you look for some proofs (internet, self generated, projections from AMD, etc) and come back so we can have a proper argument?

That said, I think we should take a long hard look at FX4300 if the mobo+4300 is cheaper than the mobo+2105, benchmarks gives them a close call (one edges over the other depending on game), but overclocked the FX4300 is pretty capable for other tasks too.

Proof: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming...w-32628-9.html

Can you F'in read. I am going to pit them up against each other later.

brandonwh64 · Feb 18, 2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

Can you F'in read. I am going to pit them up against each other later.

Cursing at a MOD will get you no were proving a point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Das. I will re test with the same hardware... A10-5800K vs 3220..... When I get home..... When I did the review, I just benched with no GPU..... brandon acts like he actually tested them... LOL

I never once said I tested them. I said going by almost all the reviews on the 5800K, WHEN USED WITH A DISCRETE GPU IT IS WISE TO GO WITH INTEL.

Feb 18, 2013, 05:31 AM	#1
camoxiong Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fresno, CA Central Valley Posts: 536 (0.61/day) Thanks: 112 Thanked 44 Times in 36 Posts System Specs	$500 budget gaming build I got an offer on my computer for $500 by my cousin. The $500 is going for a new build. Here is the list and LMK what you think. I will be using my Xigmatek hdt-s1283 heatsink. CPU - Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65... Motherboard - ASRock H77M Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.c... GPU - HIS H777QN1G2M IceQ X Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition V... RAM - Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3... PSU - CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 P... Case - NZXT Source 210 Elite White Steel with painted int... HDD - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX - Newegg.co... Last edited by camoxiong; Feb 18, 2013 at 02:53 PM.

System Name:	Single Cam Vtec
Processor:	AMD Athlon x3 450 @ stock 3.2GHz
Motherboard:	MSI 760gm-p21(FX) AM3+
Cooling:	Xigmatek hdt-s1283
Memory:	Patriot Gamer 2 Series 4 gigs ddr3 1333mhz 2x2gb
Video Card:	MSI R6670
Hard Disk:	Samsung 500gb 7200 rpm/Mator 80gb 5400rpm/WD Cavirar Green 1TB
Optical Drive:	SuperMulti 16X DVD(+/-)R/RW 12X RAM (+/-)R DL LightScribe SATA drive
CRT/LCD Model:	HP w1707
Case:	NZXT Gamma
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Corsair CX430
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
Benchmarks:	Slower than a GSR

System Name:	Delta // HTPC
Processor:	Intel i7 3770K // Intel i3 550 3.2Ghz
Motherboard:	ASRock Z77 Extreme6 // Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2H Socket 1156
Cooling:	Corsair H100 // SILVERSTONE NT07-1156 90mm
Memory:	Corsair Vengeance 1866 16gb //Corsair DDR3 1600 4 Gb
Video Card:	HIS 7950 3 Gb //Sapphire 6670 1 Gb
Hard Disk:	Samsung 840 250 SSD, WD Caviar Blue 500// Corsair M4 64 Gb Solid State, SAMSUNG F4 2 Tb, WD 1 Tb
Optical Drive:	LG DVDR 24X // Lite on DVDR 24X
CRT/LCD Model:	HP 23xi IPS 1080p" // 50" Samsung Plasma 720p
Case:	Corsair Obsidian Series 550D // Silverstone Granada GD05
Sound Card:	ASUS Xonar DS // HDMI Bit Stream to Yamaha RX V571
PSU:	Seagate M12II 750 // Corsair CX 430
Software:	Windows 7 64bit // Windows 7 64bit with XBMC Eden
Benchmarks:	I scored P9327 in 3DMark 11

System Name:	Single Cam Vtec
Processor:	AMD Athlon x3 450 @ stock 3.2GHz
Motherboard:	MSI 760gm-p21(FX) AM3+
Cooling:	Xigmatek hdt-s1283
Memory:	Patriot Gamer 2 Series 4 gigs ddr3 1333mhz 2x2gb
Video Card:	MSI R6670
Hard Disk:	Samsung 500gb 7200 rpm/Mator 80gb 5400rpm/WD Cavirar Green 1TB
Optical Drive:	SuperMulti 16X DVD(+/-)R/RW 12X RAM (+/-)R DL LightScribe SATA drive
CRT/LCD Model:	HP w1707
Case:	NZXT Gamma
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Corsair CX430
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
Benchmarks:	Slower than a GSR

Feb 18, 2013, 02:44 PM	#4
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,562 (10.02/day) Thanks: 2,146 Thanked 5,341 Times in 3,696 Posts System Specs	Good build but could you squeeze in the I3? Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65... __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

Feb 18, 2013, 06:10 AM	#2
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,875 (2.35/day) Thanks: 935 Thanked 864 Times in 632 Posts System Specs	No frills budget build. Looks ok What are you using it for and what resolution The board has very little overclocking and the memory has no XMP settings

System Name:	The StarCrunch Defender!
Processor:	I7 2600K @ 4.5ghz 1.32V
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Cooling:	Corsair A70 Push/Pull
Memory:	G-Skill Ripjaws 2x4GB DDR3 1866mhz
Video Card:	Gigabyte 7970 3GB Reference Card at boost clocks
Hard Disk:	2x 500GB WD Blue Raid 0 / 1TB WD Black
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD/R/RW SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	ViewSonic VG2227wm 1080P
Case:	NZXT Tempest 410 Elite
Sound Card:	Onboard Realtek (Azalia)
PSU:	Corsair 750TX
Software:	Windows 7 Home X64

Feb 18, 2013, 04:08 PM	#9
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,478 (1.01/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 326 Times in 266 Posts System Specs	In all honesty, Trinity would be a better build... A10-5800K is only $129 and will stomp on the i3 2105

System Name:	Halloween Boo!
Processor:	Intel Core i7 3770K
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z77-Up7
Cooling:	Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240
Memory:	16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz
Video Card:	3 x Radeon 7970
Hard Disk:	OCZ Revo Drive 240G
Optical Drive:	Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	24 inch Viewsonic
Case:	Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench
PSU:	Nexus 1100 watt

Feb 18, 2013, 04:24 PM	#19
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,478 (1.01/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 326 Times in 266 Posts System Specs	Brandon, they used a 6870 vs. 560 in one of your links. Did you look? Keep pulling. I will post some benchmarks later. The 2120 is NOT the 3220 BTW.

Feb 18, 2013, 04:24 PM	#20
de.das.dude Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wild Wild East Posts: 4,552 (4.24/day) Thanks: 2,322 Thanked 1,332 Times in 912 Posts System Specs	one again brandon shows his hate against AMD and love for intel. lol. its getting a bit old now brandon. for 500$ trinity build would be good. he can add another card to cfx with the onboard. __________________ my wallet isnt hashwell compatiple sad face

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Motherboard:	ASRock 990FX Extreme 4
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Memory:	2x4GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9
Video Card:	GIGABYTE GTS450 OC2
Hard Disk:	SATA II 80GB Hitachi 7200RPM,W.D 500GB Green \|\| 4GB int + random SD cards
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Case:	NZXT Guardian 921RB
Sound Card:	Realtek ALC892 with THX True Studio
PSU:	Corsair GS600
Software:	Windows 7 64bit
Benchmarks:	real men dont need to bench :p

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Processor:	Athlon QL-65 2.2Ghz
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