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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:53 PM   #76
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No one buying this card is going to use it at 1900x1200. If they are, they should kick themselves in the head. The only reason to buy this card, over a GTX 680 is for 2560x1600/1440 resolutions.
You think this card can max out games at even 1080p at 120fps?

I doubt it will do so for MOST games. Some, sure, but not most. Still need 2 of 'em.

Unless you are one of those people still using 60hz dinosaur-monitors.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:55 PM   #77
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You think this card can max out games at 1920x1200 at 120fps?

I doubt it will do so for MOST games. Some, sure, but not most.

Unless you are one of those people still using 60hz dinosaur-monitors.
Give me 60 constant FPS at 2560x1600, then maybe we'll talk about 120hz.
Played with a 120hz monitor, had to switch back INSTANTLY to my 1600p, once you are "baptized" by higher resolutions you'll gladly sacrifice 120hz.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:24 PM   #78
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If Titan turns out to be 50% better than the GTX 680 and is priced at twice it's selling point then:

a) when 780 releases it will not be 50% faster than the 680 (IMO) and will be priced substantially lower than Titan. This creates a selling hierarchy whereby the series agnostic Titan can transcend product lines and

b) you think there'll be that many Titans in retail to make it an issue?

but, I'm no psychic and I could be completely wrong but it doesn't make sense to release a product like Titan in any meaningful number if it will stop the next series flagship from being a flagship.
Likewise, if the 780 is better than Titan, folk that paid the big bucks for it (if it does cost the rumoured big bucks) will be furiously pissed off. I can't see the 780 being launched at a substantially higher price point than the 680 did.
There's a marketing ceiling for non limited series topping products. I see $500-$600 being that ceiling.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:35 PM   #79
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Well we are not sure about the price, it could very well be lower than what speculation or preorder sites told us.

The only way to know is to wait when the NDA lifts and get the proper MSRP from Nvidia.

Anyway I am pretty sure this GPU will be worth its weight in gold when put under water, I mean look at all the 28nm GPUs, they are insane overclockers and if Nvidia really gives us unlocked voltages (which I hope for) we could very well be near 690 performance with OC.

I fear the OCed power consumptions though
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Yeah, if it's overclockable, unexplodable and affordable, I'll be getting one. If it's really affordable, two.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 08:46 PM   #81
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Well we are not sure about the price, it could very well be lower than what speculation or preorder sites told us.

The only way to know is to wait when the NDA lifts and get the proper MSRP from Nvidia.

Anyway I am pretty sure this GPU will be worth its weight in gold when put under water, I mean look at all the 28nm GPUs, they are insane overclockers and if Nvidia really gives us unlocked voltages (which I hope for) we could very well be near 690 performance with OC.

I fear the OCed power consumptions though
It would be funny if they locked the voltages
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 09:11 PM   #83
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Dont forget how Nvidia dropped the 8800GT, offering 90% of the performance of the super-pricey 8800GTX while costing less than half as much.

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Not really. Even in the time of gtx280 it was affordable even at release and it was the fastes single chip for a while.
I think they turned the GREED ENGINE on since the gtx500 serie and it was just a refreshed 400 serie.
The 680 is so insanely priced,the GK104 not even designed to be high end. But it had a better performance than expected so why not fool the customers and rip them long as they can and keep yesterdays tech in a shelf and when the customers recover financialy they sell it as futures wonder tech.
This greedy corporates holding back our technological evolution.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 09:16 PM   #84
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It would be funny if they locked the voltages
That would be evil. Still Nvidia is famous for supplying barely enough sufficient VRMs, could be a possibility.
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Yeah, if it's overclockable, unexplodable and affordable, I'll be getting one. If it's really affordable, two.
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Are they going to cripple it again so it'll become useless for 3ds max design gpu accelerated rendering? so that I'll be forced to buy their super uber premium stupendously expensive quadro 6000 video card.

My 680 cant even use quicksilver and mental ray; its slow in opengl apps like google sketchup as well. I wonder if this one to is.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 10:38 PM   #88
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Give me 60 constant FPS at 2560x1600, then maybe we'll talk about 120hz.
Played with a 120hz monitor, had to switch back INSTANTLY to my 1600p, once you are "baptized" by higher resolutions you'll gladly sacrifice 120hz.
Or you can get the best of both worlds with a 27" Overlord Tempest (X270OC) 2560x1440 @ 120Hz.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 10:51 PM   #89
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Or you can get the best of both worlds with a 27" Overlord Tempest (X270OC) 2560x1440 @ 120Hz.
Don't those have a short life expectancy? That would be a monitor that would need titan.

Also, I just had a humorous thought. The 8000 series is named after the planets right? Greek or Roman gods were the planets.
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Old Feb 18, 2013, 10:57 PM   #90
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Or you can get the best of both worlds with a 27" Overlord Tempest (X270OC) 2560x1440 @ 120Hz.
As far as I know the 120Hz refresh rate isn't guaranteed, right?
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Yeah, you might only get 8 years of use instead of 12 years. Similar to overclocking your processor, it certainly won't make it last any longer but the results are worth it. The panel is a LG S-IPS panel, the exact panel found in the color accurate $999 Apple Cinema display for just $529.99. It's currently the only 120Hz panel that comes with a warranty.

They will have new stock in come March.

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Correct, some users have been able to hit 130Hz, others only as high at 115Hz. Mine topped out at 122Hz but I keep it at 120Hz.

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So even after nVidia published some benchmarks most of you guys still expect some end-all do-all graphics card? Really?! It's barely 30% faster than GTX 680 or 25% faster than R7970GE by nVidia's own dodgey charts for crying out loud. ASUS Matrix Platinum 7970s that can clock to 1300-1325MHz, are probably gonna be faster the Titan in a lot of scenarios (like Metro VH/DoF/MSAA)...
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So even after nVidia published some benchmarks most of you guys still expect some end-all do-all graphics card? Really?! It's barely 30% faster than GTX 680 or 25% faster than R7970GE by nVidia's own dodgey charts for crying out loud. ASUS Matrix Platinum 7970s that can clock to 1300-1325MHz, are probably gonna be faster the Titan in a lot of scenarios (like Metro VH/DoF/MSAA)...
30% more than GTX 680 is fine for me, I'm due to an upgrade anyway.
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30% more than GTX 680 is fine for me, I'm due to an upgrade anyway.
you have 1 thousand dollars? to spend on a gpu?
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So even after nVidia published some benchmarks most of you guys still expect some end-all do-all graphics card? Really?! It's barely 30% faster than GTX 680 or 25% faster than R7970GE by nVidia's own dodgey charts for crying out loud. ASUS Matrix Platinum 7970s that can clock to 1300-1325MHz, are probably gonna be faster the Titan in a lot of scenarios (like Metro VH/DoF/MSAA)...
1920x1200

Wait for higher res benchmarks for better comparison
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So even after nVidia published some benchmarks most of you guys still expect some end-all do-all graphics card? Really?! It's barely 30% faster than GTX 680 or 25% faster than R7970GE by nVidia's own dodgey charts for crying out loud. ASUS Matrix Platinum 7970s that can clock to 1300-1325MHz, are probably gonna be faster the Titan in a lot of scenarios (like Metro VH/DoF/MSAA)...
You mean the Matrix Platinum that seems to have been discontinued ?

I'd think you are being overly optimistic in your evaluation....or do you think it unlikely that Nvidia might have conceivably tested the Titan against currently available competition and tailored clocks/power to make sure that the board does what it is intended to do ?
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So even after nVidia published some benchmarks most of you guys still expect some end-all do-all graphics card? Really?! It's barely 30% faster than GTX 680 or 25% faster than R7970GE by nVidia's own dodgey charts for crying out loud. ASUS Matrix Platinum 7970s that can clock to 1300-1325MHz, are probably gonna be faster the Titan in a lot of scenarios (like Metro VH/DoF/MSAA)...
It's always kinda dumb to compare an overclocked card to a stock one. The Titan card will overclock at least somewhat, and only then can you compare a manually overclocked 7970 to a (manually OC'd) Titan. While I agree that what Nvidia is bringing to the table isn't particularly impressive (according to the info we have now), the reason has more to do with price than anything else.

Not many 7970s, even Matrix ones, will hit 1300 MHz on air.
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