NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Final Specifications, Internal Benchmarks Revealed

[Crap Daddy]

Some NDA stuff broke by Nvidia:

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...an/performance

[DarkOCean]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Dark, It may drive other GPU prices down which is a good thing.

if it was ~$600-$700(max) then i would agree.

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Some NDA stuff broke by Nvidia:

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...an/performance

they cant brake their own NDA do they?

[Crap Daddy]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Unboxing & Technology Ove...

This is too much. That baby has the privilege to touch the TITAN.

[Fluffmeister]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Unboxing & Technology Ove...

This is too much. That baby has the privilege to touch the TITAN.

Nobody puts baby in the corner.

[Vinska]

Originally Posted by DarkOCean

EUR 800 Ex VAT
GBP 827 Inc. VAT
USD 999 Inc. VAT"

Now that pricing is rather ghey for us Yuripeans:

USA gets it for $1k including VAT
Europe gets it for 800€ = ~1070$ Excluding VAT
Now, taking my country with its 21% VAT, as an example: it becomes ~$1290

USA - $1K, Me - $1.29K

Feels as if Nvidia wants to put something long and stiff inside European behinds, if You know what I mean...

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Vinska

Now that pricing is rather ghey for us Yuripeans:

USA gets it for $1k including VAT
Europe gets it for 800€ = ~1070$ Excluding VAT
Now, taking my country with its 21% VAT, as an example: it becomes ~$1290

USA - $1K, Me - $1.29K

Feels as if Nvidia wants to put something long and stiff inside European behinds, if You know what I mean...

You need to take all the expenses and incomes into consideration before you directly compare prices.
It's not NVIDIA's fault for higher VAT, and they didn't price it like most of others with the standard $ = € + VAT

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Vinska

Now that pricing is rather ghey for us Yuripeans:

USA gets it for $1k including VAT
Europe gets it for 800€ = ~1070$ Excluding VAT
Now, taking my country with its 21% VAT, as an example: it becomes ~$1290

USA - $1K, Me - $1.29K

Feels as if Nvidia wants to put something long and stiff inside European behinds, if You know what I mean...

No that's your government that's doing that sir. Unless NVIDIA is the one charging you VAT.

[Vinska]

Originally Posted by repman244

You need to take all the expenses and incomes into consideration before you directly compare prices.
It's not NVIDIA's fault for higher VAT, and they didn't price it like most of others with the standard $ = € + VAT

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

No that's your government that's doing that sir. Unless NVIDIA is the one charging you VAT.

It's more expensive in Europe even BEFORE applying VAT. How's that not Nvidia's fault?

EDIT: As in: Europe gets it for 800€ = ~1070$ Excluding VAT

[Prima.Vera]

In my country with the VAT plus taxes is more than 1000Euros. Way to go nVidia!

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Vinska

It's more expensive in Europe even BEFORE applying VAT. How's that not Nvidia's fault?

EDIT: As in: Europe gets it for 800€ = ~1070$ Excluding VAT

I'll say it again, you cannot moan about different pricing because everything else is different as well.

And that $70 difference can come from higher expenses to sell it in the EU with all the silly laws.

[Fluffmeister]

It's a premium boutique product, no amount of whining about the price is gonna change the market they are targeting.

[Vinska]

Originally Posted by repman244

I'll say it again, you cannot moan about different pricing because everything else is different as well.

And that $70 difference can come from higher expenses to sell it in the EU with all the silly laws.

It's more than $70 difference. As the US price has VAT included. So that should also be taken into account. What's the VAT in the US, anyway?

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Vinska

It's more than $70 difference. As the US price has VAT included.

That's the whole point, NVIDIA isn't responsible for the extra 20% that goes on top of the price...they won't get anything from it.

[Vinska]

Originally Posted by Fluffmeister

It's a premium boutique product, no amount of whining about the price is gonna change the market they are targeting.

Except they do it for every product.

Originally Posted by repman244

That's the whole point, NVIDIA isn't responsible for the extra 20% that goes on top of the price...they won't get anything from it.

eee what? Look, in the US it's $1k WITH VAT. Now, what would be the price in the US WITHOUT VAT? Because we should not be comparing the prices while one of them includes VAT, and the other doesn't.
P.S. Do You even know why Nvidia lists the price without VAT in Europe, but With VAT in USA?

[Fluffmeister]

Originally Posted by Vinska

Except they do it for every product.

And they all sell too.

[Aleksander]

What if they make a 'cut in the half' version, will it cost 500$?

Btw, this just means that the computers just got the supercomputers
What will happen to supercomputers???

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Vinska

eee what? Look, in the US it's $1k WITH VAT. Now, what would be the price in the US WITHOUT VAT? Because we should not be comparing the prices while one of them includes VAT, and the other doesn't.
P.S. Do You even know why Nvidia lists the price without VAT in Europe, but With VAT in USA?

I know that, all I'm saying the difference isn't so big as you're trying to say. AFAIK US doesn't have VAT (sometimes it's only sales tax or something like that which is ~7% - someone correct me if I'm wrong).

NVIDIA doesn't list it with VAT because all countries have different VAT (some have 18, some 20, 25%...).

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Vinska

Except they do it for every product.



eee what? Look, in the US it's $1k WITH VAT. Now, what would be the price in the US WITHOUT VAT? Because we should not be comparing the prices while one of them includes VAT, and the other doesn't.
P.S. Do You even know why Nvidia lists the price without VAT in Europe, but With VAT in USA?

1. It costs more to ship to Europe because of a plethora of regulations. I know this because I've been working in textiles for 15+ years. That's why there is a small increase in price. Its not NVIDIA's problem man.

2. The US doesn't have VAT. Hell I buy off Newegg because its tax free.

[Prima.Vera]

Guys relax. We all know that the US have some of the best prices for products in the world. Heck, even the gas/oil price in US is more than half from the rest of the world. No need to fight here over the obvious.

[Ikaruga]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The US doesn't have VAT. Hell I buy off Newegg because its tax free.

It's not that simple. Don't forget that you are comparing a buy inside the USA with a purchase of a product imported into an other country. This section of the wiki (with the examples) describes it a little bit better.

[AsRock]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

1. It costs more to ship to Europe because of a plethora of regulations. I know this because I've been working in textiles for 15+ years. That's why there is a small increase in price. Its not NVIDIA's problem man.

2. The US doesn't have VAT. Hell I buy off Newegg because its tax free.

Finally some one said it USA don't have VAT ( value-added tax "COUGH").

Although some stats you have to pay tax but not here in PA ..

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Ikaruga

It's not that simple. Don't forget that you are comparing a buy inside the USA with a purchase of a product imported into an other country. This section of the wiki (with the examples) describes it a little bit better.

Do you think that GPU's are made in the US? Everything is imported man. Same as Europe. We just don't have VAT. However we are catching up to you guys in useless regulations and pointless taxes to line corrupt government officials pockets........but that's for another thread.

[Ikaruga]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Do you think that GPU's are made in the US? Everything is imported man. Same as Europe. We just don't have VAT. However we are catching up to you guys in useless regulations and pointless taxes to line corrupt government officials pockets........but that's for another thread.

You are still pretty far from reaching this advanced level self destructing bureauidiotracy

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Ikaruga

You are still pretty far from reaching this advanced level self destructing bureauidiotracy

For BOTH of our sakes I pray our respective regional governments get their act together soon. Its beyond stupid at this point. IMO a few capitals buildings need some cleaning out of the trash.

[tokyoduong]

Originally Posted by Vinska

Now that pricing is rather ghey for us Yuripeans:

USA gets it for $1k including VAT
Europe gets it for 800€ = ~1070$ Excluding VAT
Now, taking my country with its 21% VAT, as an example: it becomes ~$1290

USA - $1K, Me - $1.29K

Feels as if Nvidia wants to put something long and stiff inside European behinds, if You know what I mean...

don't blame a company for what the government does. The government double and triple dip with taxes all the time. Businesses gets taxed on the income after expenses. You get income taxed and then pay more taxes when paying for products and services. You end up paying taxes with your taxed money. I know I am losing more than half of what i make if I account for all the taxes I pay.

Originally Posted by AsRock

Finally some one said it USA don't have VAT ( value-added tax "COUGH").

Although some stats you have to pay tax but not here in PA ..

We have sales tax that can go over 20% in some places. We also have all kinds of ridiculous taxes and more in the works. There's actually a new highway utility tax for hybrid/ev owners in the works where they have to pay an extra $100 or so a year. That's funny since we already pay these taxes in gasoline/diesel and annual registration/fees/hut/etc...
The lottery has always supposed to be extra funding for education but we're lucky if half of that goes to the schools. You get taxed to hell if you win and even more if you want lump sum