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Old Feb 19, 2013, 07:20 PM   #51
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How so, because I run Precision X.

The downlocking is on BIOS side im pretty sure. So unless you edit BIOS, Precision can't do anything.
Hmm, have to remember, because my overclocking experience has been when EVGA GTX680 was just released. As your card is on H20 it should stay sub 70 C anyhow.
If you use the onscreen monitor you can watch your clocks while gaming or benching.
On air: I occed the clocks gpu/shader/mem for benching to the limit via Precision. Made a fan profil to keep it cool. Have a well ventilated rig. Played demanding games for hours. Benched for hours. Unigine Heaven or whatever. But there was no downclocking at all.
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A lot of hate in this thread.

Who cares what the price is. Point it it's the next gen..as always it's over priced...good news is 7970 just got a $10-$20 price cut on Newegg. That is what I like about new tech coming out. I didn't check 680's but I bet they dropped slightly. Once they start shipping hoping for another $20 off and then it's xfire time.
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The card seems nice ... wondering what will be the power draw

But then what's next ?! ... 1500$ 2880 CUDA-Core GeForce Titan ULTRA ??
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so it is true this card based on Tesla?

BTW AFAIK this card never shown up from nVidia roadmap, so it is true again AMD owned the PS4 and XBOX 720 project, and this is the result...nVidia angry or whatsoever the result was the Titan?
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so it is true this card based on Tesla?

BTW AFAIK this card never shown up from nVidia roadmap, so it is true again AMD owned the PS4 and XBOX 720 project, and this is the result...nVidia angry or whatsoever the result was the Titan?
I believe the GK110 based Titan was suppose to come out sooner or later.
NVIDIA chose sooner. Why? 7970Ghz, PS4. Mostly.

If it was about to be released later, it might have been called GTX780, and have 2-3 little brothers down to the power of the GTX680
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so it is true this card based on Tesla?

BTW AFAIK this card never shown up from nVidia roadmap, so it is true again AMD owned the PS4 and XBOX 720 project, and this is the result...nVidia angry or whatsoever the result was the Titan?
I guess we will never know, your point is valid anyway.
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999$ is so lol for me..

obviously this card is no real threat for AMD at this moment despite this card would take over the crown of "The Fastest GPU in The World". In addition they also have supplied ton of chips to the next powerful gen console machine companies. AMD shall be more relaxed now. Furthermore, they can do more concern on optimizing their drivers and improvising their "The Way Its Meant To Be Played" Program.

i wish this Titans won't fall from grace and stumble down towards Zeus and other gods hand again.
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A lot of hate in this thread.

Who cares what the price is. Point it it's the next gen..as always it's over priced...good news is 7970 just got a $10-$20 price cut on Newegg. That is what I like about new tech coming out. I didn't check 680's but I bet they dropped slightly. Once they start shipping hoping for another $20 off and then it's xfire time.
This isn't next gen GTX 7xx. From Anand it looks like this is going to be named GTX Titan. As such, it appears as though the GTX 7xx will be Maxwell next year.

If all that is true, this is truly overpriced for $1k for a 18-30% increase in performance. I doubt GTX 680 prices will be effected.
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This isn't next gen GTX 7xx. From Anand it looks like this is going to be named GTX Titan. As such, it appears as though the GTX 7xx will be Maxwell next year.

If all that is true, this is truly overpriced for $1k for a 18-30% increase in performance. I doubt GTX 680 prices will be effected.
Yeah prices of the 670 and 680 haven't really budged at all, it's a safe bet they are still selling perfectly well.

With AMD's apparent slow down and lack of direct competition to the Titan I don't see much changing for quite some time.

Expect more numerous gaming evolved titles and bundles.
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If you can't afford to buy it.. Juzt don't buy it. It's as simple as that..
How can you bash the others, who will buy this?
It's a weird world after all.. My Goodness!
Did you signup just to post useless carp?
Btw, nobody is bashing anyone, is only bashing people that brag themselfs on all forums how much money they have and how cool they are with their 10K+ $ PC...I really hate vanity, that's all.
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Did you signup just to post useless carp?
Btw, nobody is bashing anyone, is only bashing people that brag themselfs on all forums how much money they have and how cool they are with their 10K+ $ PC...I really hate vanity, that's all.
He has a point though, I've lost count of the "LOL too expensive" posts. We get it, the card is very expensive, but then so are Intel Extreme processors.

At least try to grasp the market this card is aimed it and that often the price premium you pay for such products isn't relative to the performance.
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He has a point though, I've lost count of the "LOL too expensive" posts. We get it, the card is very expensive, but then so are Intel Extreme processors.
LOL. Agree, but each user is posting his own comment. If most comments seems to be the same is nvidia's problem for thinking only to a special kind of "audience"
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LOL. Agree, but each user is posting his own comment. If most comments seems to be the same is nvidia's problem for thinking only to a special kind of "audience"
But that is just it, there isn't any problem for nVidia, they don't expect the world and their mother to buy one of these cards. But it's funny that people think they know the market better than these big corps.

But yeah, after endless threads and endless posts about Titan, there is really no interest in it. :P
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sweeet, i know where my tax return is going! too expensive, pshhhhh for an enthusiast price is only a hurdle for a piece of history. I remember selling a Jordan rookie card for hundreds over what its worth...doubt its worth that much now, buts its all part of the game.
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All that's left are the 3rd-Party reviews... I wanna know real-world gaming performance vs GTX680, 690 and Radeon 7970.
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Man I dont like where gpu prices are going, im not going into the debate that im not the target market, but remember the 295, 590, 480, they were top tier and cost half of top tier these days.

But I would most definitely buy 3-4 of this if i shat money
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Not that I'm not able to but I'm no way willing to feed Nvidias megalomania.
You already did that when you bought your 680s.

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Disappointing stuff. The only reason Titan deserves this name is for its astromic price tag. This is a kick in the butt. Titan costs you an arm and a leg. Nvidia sux.
Let me stop you right there. Of all the people to whine about this card's price, you and anybody with a mid-high range (670/680) 600 series GPU has no right to moan. If we're going by die size and/or transistor count, your 680 is terrible value and just as bad, if not worse than this card. You let them overprice their cards when you paid a high end price for your mid-range 660 Ti (aka GTX 680), that means all their ACTUAL high end hardware moves to the next price bracket, which happens to be the extreme end.

To put it simply, you're the reason this card is overpriced.

The only hope we (and anyone else with some logic left) have, is either:

1. the hope that this card flops so badly that Nvidia have no choice but to come back to planet Earth with their pricing -- judging by how many 670/680 series cards they sold, I can't see that happening again, at least not for a long time (several years).
2. ports from next gen consoles are so bad that Nvidia will have no choice but to become competitive again and push themselves to the limit with performance for the money, like they did back with their 8000 series. 6GB VRAM on this card is already a clear warning of just how bad future console ports are going to be, and so anyone saying this card is "overkill for 1080p" is a moron -- with future games, texture density is going to quadruple (at least), higher levels of antialiasing will be used, native tessellation, higher resolution shadowmaps etc -- will need every bit of VRAM this card can spare. Our last hope is resting on the consoles and how well they're spec'ed -- if it's 7870/7850 level of GPU hardware, then Kepler is not likely to last very long, especially at the current prices, and I expect AMD to wipe the floor with the Titan in price/performance once they're on schedule for the consoles and release the 8970.

Either way, Kepler is going to be forever remembered as the most overpriced GPU architecture known to man.
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Either way, Kepler is going to be forever remembered as the most overpriced GPU architecture known to man.
Not really, AMD launched first and set the price/performance precedent for this gen. The 7970 launched with a suitably high price tag whilst both being woefully underclocked and with drivers clearly requiring plenty of love.

Thus the 680 launched being both faster and cheaper, countless months later and with numerous driver updates both cards are still suitably competitive with each other.

Whether people took pleasure or not from the fact the GK104 wasn't the top of the line Kepler chip, it was always gonna come back eventually and kick them firmly in the nuts.
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I wonder how many PSUs will die this year to the hands of this piece of silicon?
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You already did that when you bought your 680s.



Let me stop you right there. Of all the people to whine about this card's price, you and anybody with a mid-high range (670/680) 600 series GPU has no right to moan. If we're going by die size and/or transistor count, your 680 is terrible value and just as bad, if not worse than this card. You let them overprice their cards when you paid a high end price for your mid-range 660 Ti (aka GTX 680), that means all their ACTUAL high end hardware moves to the next price bracket, which happens to be the extreme end.

To put it simply, you're the reason this card is overpriced.

The only hope we (and anyone else with some logic left) have, is either:

1. the hope that this card flops so badly that Nvidia have no choice but to come back to planet Earth with their pricing -- judging by how many 670/680 series cards they sold, I can't see that happening again, at least not for a long time (several years).
2. ports from next gen consoles are so bad that Nvidia will have no choice but to become competitive again and push themselves to the limit with performance for the money, like they did back with their 8000 series. 6GB VRAM on this card is already a clear warning of just how bad future console ports are going to be, and so anyone saying this card is "overkill for 1080p" is a moron -- with future games, texture density is going to quadruple (at least), higher levels of antialiasing will be used, native tessellation, higher resolution shadowmaps etc -- will need every bit of VRAM this card can spare. Our last hope is resting on the consoles and how well they're spec'ed -- if it's 7870/7850 level of GPU hardware, then Kepler is not likely to last very long, especially at the current prices, and I expect AMD to wipe the floor with the Titan in price/performance once they're on schedule for the consoles and release the 8970.

Either way, Kepler is going to be forever remembered as having the most power efficient to best performing ratio GPU architecture known to man.
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And too bad 8970 has been said to be a tuned up 7970.

Regardless of AMD or Nvidia this last generation with HD79xx and GTX6xx they have both been over priced on both sides of the field. Can't really single out either of them, especially when their cards were launched. Now we are down to ~$400 for the high end 7970 and 680s, which IMO is perfectly respectable for current generation.
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I'm sure that the slow down in PC sector helped aswell to make that decision. Orders for Tesla werent as expected and they had a lot of inventory to re-allocate due to various other reasons.

S/A article back in Oct 2012
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obviously this card is no real threat for AMD at this moment despite this card would take over the crown of "The Fastest GPU in The World". In addition they also have supplied ton of chips to the next powerful gen console machine companies. AMD shall be more relaxed now. Furthermore, they can do more concern on optimizing their drivers and improvising their "The Way Its Meant To Be Played" Program.
They were sitting on GK110, so from a business perspective, why not throw it out there to make some money? I imagine once people start posting results of this thing at 1.1GHz (which Guru3D already said they got up to with relative ease) it will impress quite a few people. As it stands, it's 20%~ ahead of the 7970GHz, and 30% ahead of reference GTX680's, so clocking it about 30% higher will be pretty damn impressive.

Not sure what you're referring to when you say AMD has supplied a "ton of chips to the next powerful gen console machine companies". If you're referring to the next-gen Game Consoles, they don't make a ton of money off that, and make a majority of it up front by designing it--remember, AMD doesn't own any fabs. It will be interesting if Gaming Evolved games start to outnumber TWIMTBP titles, will people start complaining about AMD bias in reviews when that happens?
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