NVIDIA Announces GeForce GTX Titan, The Fastest GPU in the World

[Xzibit]

Originally Posted by xenocide

http://www.slashgear.com/nvidia-q4-f...look-15213692/

Yea, Nvidia is really struggling.

If you get past the headline and read.

Year over Year is nice but take it into perspective. 500 series was coming to EOL after a 2yr life cycle. First GF110 was release in 7/12/2010
Common sense your new product line should sell more then your 2yr old product line. If it doesnt then somethings extremely wrong.

Quarter to Quarter its not a strong endorsement. 600 series are all out and available for purchase and it's there first full holiday shopping season.

Nvidia Q4 2012
Revenue = -8.1%
Gross Margin = Flat
Operating Expenses = +4.6%
Net Income = -16.8%
Earnings Per Share = -15.2%



Reading helps get pass the PR spin sometimes.

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by Xzibit

Reading helps get pass the PR spin sometimes.

Back to your usual trolling self I see.
Comparing the current quarter with the previous-(I thought we'd got past that)...which was a record quarter for Nvidia- strange that none of the trolls saw fit to comment or do a quarter-on-quarter analysis of that record quarter
Obvious troll is obvious...yet again.

[xenocide]

Considering the entire PC Hardware market has shrank year after year, it's no surprise that year over year Nvidia will show less return--hence them hedging some of their bets on the future mobile market. Hell, even Intel showed lower revenue than last year, and they are doing pretty damn well these days. The point is, Nvidia is hardly struggling. The only major company that is really having issues is AMD (and their graphics division is actually doing pretty well) and that should be fixed by someone else buying out the company sooner or later--or Intel pumping them full of money to continue having a competitor to avoid anti-trust cases.

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by xenocide

They were sitting on GK110, so from a business perspective, why not throw it out there to make some money? I imagine once people start posting results of this thing at 1.1GHz (which Guru3D already said they got up to with relative ease) it will impress quite a few people. As it stands, it's 20%~ ahead of the 7970GHz, and 30% ahead of reference GTX680's, so clocking it about 30% higher will be pretty damn impressive.

yeah, i just wish it won't fail soon enough. i believe there are many people out there have a bunch of money and got confused on how to throw their money off. Of course nvidia would not let amd sucks their money (ps4, xbox720). Sure, you're right

20% ahead HD7970 GHz for 999$ ? that's brilliant

do you mean pumping out of its core clock to become 1.1Ghz ? Impressive~ i wish their 999$ card won't blow up soon enough.

Originally Posted by xenocide

Not sure what you're referring to when you say AMD has supplied a "ton of chips to the next powerful gen console machine companies". If you're referring to the next-gen Game Consoles, they don't make a ton of money off that, and make a majority of it up front by designing it--remember, AMD doesn't own any fabs. It will be interesting if Gaming Evolved games start to outnumber TWIMTBP titles, will people start complaining about AMD bias in reviews when that happens?

yeah, sure. they don't have their own fabs. But let's see how things happened when ps4 launched and become available in the market

Nvidia has already did in the past up until now . I believe their engineer also patched of its game code to be optimized for nvidia cards only, do you remember what happened with splinter cell 2 games when running on ati cards? there's no shadow at all (also NFS Most Wanted, if i recall correctly). TWIMTBP... lol

[Xzibit]

Originally Posted by xenocide

Considering the entire PC Hardware market has shrank year after year, it's no surprise that year over year Nvidia will show less return--hence them hedging some of their bets on the future mobile market. Hell, even Intel showed lower revenue than last year, and they are doing pretty damn well these days. The point is, Nvidia is hardly struggling. The only major company that is really having issues is AMD (and their graphics division is actually doing pretty well) and that should be fixed by someone else buying out the company sooner or later--or Intel pumping them full of money to continue having a competitor to avoid anti-trust cases.

I agree with almost all that except the last part on how to fix AMD.

AMD isnt doing bad. Even considering its x3 smaller then Nvidia as a whole. In GPUs it manages to sell just under half of what Nvidia does. Intel is +x10 its size they get there punches in and shoot themselves in the foot no doubt like last year.

AMD should be balance neutral (not debt neutral just not adding to its debts) by years end 2013. Speculators say H2/Q3 2013 but just looks too early. If they get there and maintain there current status they should be fine and be able to compete in the market place on all current fronts. If not then I could see something like you discribed happening if things go bad for them.

Most of the year 2012 people thought AMD might be bought-out and then at the end of the year it dwindled out. I just find it funny that all that AMD buyout talk people like to forget every 6 months Nvidia is talked about as a takeover target and cant help .

Both havent gone anywhere yet

[hardcore_gamer]

Originally Posted by btarunr

so gamers can also build beautifully-designed PC gaming machines about the size of a gaming console

.....or gamers can spend the $1000 to buy next generation XBOX, Playstation and a couple of games.

seriously..1000 bucks for a single GPU card ?

[Fluffmeister]

People spend more than $1000 bucks on graphics cards all the time.

But sure, enjoy your expensive console games.

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by hardcore_gamer

.....or gamers can spend the $1000 to buy next generation XBOX, Playstation and a couple of games.

Buy consoles over enthusiast graphics?


Yup, that's why I visit TPU

[the54thvoid]

Originally Posted by Fluffmeister

People spend more than $1000 bucks on graphics cards all the time.

But sure, enjoy your expensive console games.

To be fair I spent £900+ on 2 x 7970 (both under water mind). That being said, the price of Titan is enough to stop me buying one. I'll wait and see what the customised ones are like from the partners.

I would have spent between £600-700 max on a Titan (the top range if it performed close to my own set up) but >£800 is too steep. I'd also be putting it under water and that makes it even worse.

But then again, if an overclocked Titan matches 2 x 7970, I could be persuaded.

[Fluffmeister]

Originally Posted by the54thvoid

To be fair I spent £900+ on 2 x 7970 (both under water mind). That being said, the price of Titan is enough to stop me buying one. I'll wait and see what the customised ones are like from the partners.

I would have spent between £600-700 max on a Titan (the top range if it performed close to my own set up) but >£800 is too steep. I'd also be putting it under water and that makes it even worse.

But then again, if an overclocked Titan matches 2 x 7970, I could be persuaded.

Yeah that's fair enough, the card isn't even on the market yet after all. A combo of the fact it's at launch price and there is bound to be some price gouging going on too makes it more expensive.

When the GTX 690 launched it was exactly the same "OMFG $1000+ LOL! no thanks!" dribble we are getting now, but you can get them for around £700 now, certainly not £1000. I won't mention the ARES II as "competition".

A lot of AIB partners are apparently offering their own Titan card with potential custom cards to come. The price will settle, but a bit of patience will certainly help.

[Hayder_Master]

dam low GPU speed, W1zzard i hope u not burn it like 590, no pop corn please
lol

[Slizzo]

Originally Posted by Fluffmeister

He has a point though, I've lost count of the "LOL too expensive" posts. We get it, the card is very expensive, but then so are Intel Extreme processors.

At least try to grasp the market this card is aimed it and that often the price premium you pay for such products isn't relative to the performance.

To me, it's not really that it's so expensive. It's that it's the same price as the GTX690, which outperforms it by quite a bit.

[Fluffmeister]

Originally Posted by Slizzo

To me, it's not really that it's so expensive. It's that it's the same price as the GTX690, which outperforms it by quite a bit.

Indeed, but not everyone is into dual GPU cards, and even nVidia can fall short on driver support occasionally. And obviously Titan brings different functionality to the table and in a shorter package.

I mean if you just wanted pure performance with good value you might as well SLI two 670's.

[Slizzo]

Originally Posted by Fluffmeister

Indeed, but not everyone is into dual GPU cards, and even nVidia can fall short on driver support occasionally. And obviously Titan brings different functionality to the table and in a shorter package.

I mean if you just wanted pure performance with good value you might as well SLI two 670's.

Which has always been the case. But it's also always been the case that their top end dual-GPU board was more expensive than their top single GPU board.

This would have made perfect sense at $799, or even OK sense at $899.

[Fluffmeister]

Originally Posted by Slizzo

Which has always been the case. But it's also always been the case that their top end dual-GPU board was more expensive than their top single GPU board.

This would have made perfect sense at $799, or even OK sense at $899.

Well yeah, and their top end dual GPU cards always used their top end GPU's, that obviously isn't the case here and both cards are quite different beasts.

I'm not saying I agree with the pricing, but if nVidia think they can sell enough of them at that price then who am I to argue with them.

[DayKnight]

Where is the review by W1zz?.

21st is here.

[AddSub]

Daummmm!


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[PatoRodrigues]

If you complain about the card's price... Well, then you must not know the meaning of exclusive. With such high-end cards, you also pay for STATUS. Keep that in mind!

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by Slizzo

Which has always been the case. But it's also always been the case that their top end dual-GPU board was more expensive than their top single GPU board.

This would have made perfect sense at $799, or even OK sense at $899.

Thats exactly how I feel.

If it was 699 to 799 id bite the bullet instantly. But it probably won't so nahhh!

Would be so sweet to run one of these titan cards, Corsair Dominator Platinums, with a EK chrome CPU block!

[Galas]

I still remember when 300 bucks were enough to get you the best graphic card out there.

[Prima.Vera]

Just a question. Will the new GTX 780 that will supposedly come by the end of the year, be faster and cheaper than this Titanium, or not really...? Seriously, what's the point of paying more than 1K Euros for 1 card, when in 6 months you can buy a better and cheaper one for ~ half the price?!

[Slizzo]

Originally Posted by Prima.Vera

Just a question. Will the new GTX 780 that will supposedly come by the end of the year, be faster and cheaper than this Titanium, or not really...? Seriously, what's the point of paying more than 1K Euros for 1 card, when in 6 months you can buy a better and cheaper one for ~ half the price?!

Depending on how competitive ATI/AMD is, the new GTX 7xx cards should out perform this card. Remember that this GeForce "TITAN" is a GK110 core, and likely was only held back because AMD couldn't compete with it; nVidia found that their GK104 chips were competitive with AMD's 79xx series GPUs.

[Xzibit]

Originally Posted by Slizzo

Depending on how competitive ATI/AMD is, the new GTX 7xx cards should out perform this card. Remember that this GeForce "TITAN" is a GK110 core, and likely was only held back because AMD couldn't compete with it; nVidia found that their GK104 chips were competitive with AMD's 79xx series GPUs.

I think it has to due more with the documented troubles that Nvidia hasnt been able to produce a fully working GK110 core and yield issues. GeForce cards have always come before the Tesla. This year it was backwards. Usually there is a 4-6month gap between the two.

If Nvidia would have stuck to GK110 it would have released 10months after AMD released the 7970.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by Prima.Vera

Just a question. Will the new GTX 780 that will supposedly come by the end of the year, be faster and cheaper than this Titanium, or not really...? Seriously, what's the point of paying more than 1K Euros for 1 card, when in 6 months you can buy a better and cheaper one for ~ half the price?!

Because there is a market for it right now.

[blibba]

Originally Posted by Galas

I still remember when 300 bucks were enough to get you the best graphic card out there.

That last happened so long ago that $300 was worth a lot more than it is today.