Engineering Sample HD 7970 Idle problem

bissag · Feb 25, 2013, 03:36 PM

Hello, I got a good offer on ES HD7970 and the card performs well, the only con that at idle mode, the card will produce little whine or squeal according to what happen on the screen, noticeable while scrolling the pages and moving the cursor. As I knew it is bios issue with the ES 7970 with the idle clocks regarding the ram clock or timings. I tried the change the bios to the GHZ Reference bios "C3860100.102", flashing goes fine but as soon as the windows loads, it will bsod with 7E code. I have to remove the drive or reflash the card to load the windows fine. The ES card comes with bios "C3862000.004"
I noticed all the retail 7970 cards come with name "Tahiti B0 XT2 C38601" while the ES comes with name "Tahiti B0 XT2 C38620" If someone have a reference bios has the same "C38620" with date newer than 6/7/2012, I would be glad to try it.
I tried the Club3D 7970 RoyalAce bios, it flashed fine and the whine or squeal at idle disappeared but the card wasn't stable at 3D. I know it is ES card and there is no support for that but maybe someone has a newer bios for it?

Thanks

brandonwh64 · Feb 25, 2013, 03:37 PM

I do not think you are suppose to even have ES cards but I could be wrong. I know intel ES chips are not for resale but maybe different with GPU's

de.das.dude · Feb 25, 2013, 03:39 PM

arent ES supposed to be returned to the company?

YOU STOLE FROM AMD

Pehla · Feb 25, 2013, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I do not think you are suppose to even have ES cards but I could be wrong. I know intel ES chips are not for resale but maybe different with GPU's

i dont think ur right.. ,just becouse i had visiontek hd 6950 ES,i bought it on newegg refubrished.
btw im sry i cant help u with bios issue!!

bissag · Feb 25, 2013, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

arent ES supposed to be returned to the company?

YOU STOLE FROM AMD

It was at ebay, the seller didn't say it is ES or not. It was stated as OEM card without accessories. I bought it and then I saw the label on the back of card that it is engineering sample. The seller is from China so I can't even ship it back. So don't accuse me as stolling as I 'm not a reviewer and i didn't know it was ES until I got it.

blanarahul · Feb 25, 2013, 03:49 PM

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/i...E&memSize=3072

Try the ones for which Core/Mem is 925/1375.

brandonwh64 · Feb 25, 2013, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pehla

i dont think ur right.. ,just becouse i had visiontek hd 6950 ES,i bought it on newegg refubrished.
btw im sry i cant help u with bios issue!!

I may be but I am basing my opinions on what intel specifies as ES.

http://www.intel.com/support/process.../cs-030747.htm

Law-II · Feb 25, 2013, 04:02 PM

Hi

Quote:

Originally Posted by bissag

I have to remove the drive or reflash the card to load the windows fine

Drivers should be uninstalled before flashing a vga card!

atb (all the best)

Law-II

bissag · Feb 25, 2013, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Law-II

Hi

Drivers should be uninstalled before flashing a vga card!

atb (all the best)

Law-II

Sure the drivers was uninstalled before the flashing. It accepts the drivers fine and everything is successfully then after I restart it won't load the windows with a BSOD

de.das.dude · Feb 25, 2013, 05:04 PM

OEM means it was used in some pre assembled junk by big companies liek dell and the likes.

bissag · Feb 25, 2013, 06:12 PM

Well, the card won't accept any bios except the default stock bios which comes with the card.
HIS and Club3D bios worked but once the 3D clocks kicks in, the screen goes black no matter what the clocks are and the other ones will just BSOD before loading the driver.

de.das.dude · Feb 25, 2013, 06:49 PM

yup its an OEM card all right.

jaggerwild · Feb 25, 2013, 06:50 PM

Why didnt you save the original Bios? Like your suppose to!!
Have you checked MVKtech? sorry cant link, im on a cheap phone.

bissag · Feb 25, 2013, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaggerwild

Why didnt you save the original Bios? Like your suppose to!!
Have you checked MVKtech? sorry cant link, im on a cheap phone.

I have the original bios which came with the card but I need another bios

erocker · Feb 25, 2013, 07:24 PM

Since it is an engineering sample, it is very likely the only bios that will work with it is the original. This card should of never been sold in the first place. The seller listing the card as OEM is a lie and the card should be returned if possible.

That being said, I do have a "generic" bios that is unlocked that might work. I'll post it up when I get home from work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

yup its an OEM card all right.

No.

bissag · Feb 25, 2013, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Since it is an engineering sample, it is very likely the only bios that will work with it is the original. This card should of never been sold in the first place. The seller listing the card as OEM is a lie and the card should be returned if possible.

That being said, I do have a "generic" bios that is unlocked that might work. I'll post it up when I get home from work.

Thanks erocker, waiting your bios

erocker · Feb 25, 2013, 07:44 PM

Bios is in the attatchment.

Good luck!

Frogger · Feb 25, 2013, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Since it is an engineering sample, it is very likely the only bios that will work with it is the original.

True the only option to ajust the bios right now is to Hex edit the original. PM me a copy & I'll have a look.
" the card will produce little whine or squeal " have you found out where on the card this is coming from?? Have you tried down clocking the card in 3D to stop it?
the bios erocker uploaded is c68601b0
just had a look At my bios collection the only XT2 C38620 that i have are for non-reference cards

bissag · Feb 25, 2013, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Bios is in the attatchment.

Good luck!

Didn't work, bsod when loading the windows

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogger

True the only option to ajust the bios right now is to Hex edit the original. PM me a copy & I'll have a look.
" the card will produce little whine or squeal " have you found out where on the card this is coming from?? Have you tried down clocking the card in 3D to stop it?
the bios erocker uploaded is c68601b0
just had a look At my bios collection the only XT2 C38620 that i have are for non-reference cards

The whine happens while idling, once I run any 3D app in the background the whine disappears, also changing the memory clock from 150 to 300 removes the whine while other bios'es with 150 ram clock doesn't produce this whine but they crash to black screen once the clock goes to 3d clocks.

Here is my stock bios http://www.mediafire.com/?ube6vcxomnzfd82

Frogger · Feb 25, 2013, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bissag

also changing the memory clock from 150 to 300 removes the whine

will have a good look at the bios But editing with hex editor is REAL hit & miss with these new AMD bios.......Your best bet would be to increase your 2d clocks read erockers thread or use Afterburner to set a startup profile.

bissag · Feb 26, 2013, 03:22 AM

The problem with the CCC 2d profile than once I change the default 150MHz memory clock to any number, it changes automatically the idle GPU stock clock 300MHz to 500MHz and it increases the stock VCC to 0.948v instead of 0.807v which increases the idle temperature.

syeef · Feb 26, 2013, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

YOU STOLE FROM AMD

Lol.

Frogger · Feb 26, 2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bissag

once I change the default 150MHz memory clock to any number, it changes automatically the idle GPU stock clock 300MHz to 500MHz and it increases the stock VCC to 0.948v instead of 0.807v which increases the idle temperature.

that the way it's suppose to fucntion see http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...dition/32.html

Feb 25, 2013, 03:36 PM	#1
bissag Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 9 (0.11/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Engineering Sample HD 7970 Idle problem Hello, I got a good offer on ES HD7970 and the card performs well, the only con that at idle mode, the card will produce little whine or squeal according to what happen on the screen, noticeable while scrolling the pages and moving the cursor. As I knew it is bios issue with the ES 7970 with the idle clocks regarding the ram clock or timings. I tried the change the bios to the GHZ Reference bios "C3860100.102", flashing goes fine but as soon as the windows loads, it will bsod with 7E code. I have to remove the drive or reflash the card to load the windows fine. The ES card comes with bios "C3862000.004" I noticed all the retail 7970 cards come with name "Tahiti B0 XT2 C38601" while the ES comes with name "Tahiti B0 XT2 C38620" If someone have a reference bios has the same "C38620" with date newer than 6/7/2012, I would be glad to try it. I tried the Club3D 7970 RoyalAce bios, it flashed fine and the whine or squeal at idle disappeared but the card wasn't stable at 3D. I know it is ES card and there is no support for that but maybe someone has a newer bios for it? Thanks

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de.das.dude Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wild Wild East Posts: 4,487 (4.19/day) Thanks: 2,293 Thanked 1,307 Times in 895 Posts System Specs	OEM means it was used in some pre assembled junk by big companies liek dell and the likes. __________________ Cheers!

Feb 25, 2013, 06:12 PM	#11
bissag Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 9 (0.11/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Well, the card won't accept any bios except the default stock bios which comes with the card. HIS and Club3D bios worked but once the 3D clocks kicks in, the screen goes black no matter what the clocks are and the other ones will just BSOD before loading the driver.

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bissag Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 9 (0.11/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	The problem with the CCC 2d profile than once I change the default 150MHz memory clock to any number, it changes automatically the idle GPU stock clock 300MHz to 500MHz and it increases the stock VCC to 0.948v instead of 0.807v which increases the idle temperature.

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