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DRDNA · Aug 22, 2012, 10:39 AM

What kind of ppd will a Geforce 8400 GS pull in?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...cher@kodak.com

Thanks for any info provided!

Looks like back in 08 they were getting 1200 to 1500 ppd.

[Ion] · Aug 22, 2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DRDNA

What kind of ppd will a Geforce 8400 GS pull in?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...cher@kodak.com

Thanks for any info provided!

Looks like back in 08 they were getting 1200 to 1500 ppd.

Basically nothing. No way you'll get 1.2-1.5k PPD, even an 8800GS (which has 96 shaders vs either 8 or 16 in the 8400GS) you'll get ~3-4k or so. Basically, you'll just be making Windows laggy for no reason.

popswala · Sep 9, 2012, 05:18 PM

By chance does anyone know what the cut off is on the cards? Like whats the oldest card thats still getting wu's. I'm looking to get an amd card to get another rig running but not sure if it'll still get work. Same goes for nvidia cards. I think the 2xx's are done for. I'm looking at a 4850 but not sure if its worth it. I just need something with S-Video Out since that rig is near my tv but doesn't have a screen. That way I can get on it that way without having to move my screen back an forth.

BUCK NASTY · Sep 9, 2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by popswala

By chance does anyone know what the cut off is on the cards? Like whats the oldest card thats still getting wu's. I'm looking to get an amd card to get another rig running but not sure if it'll still get work. Same goes for nvidia cards. I think the 2xx's are done for. I'm looking at a 4850 but not sure if its worth it. I just need something with S-Video Out since that rig is near my tv but doesn't have a screen. That way I can get on it that way without having to move my screen back an forth.

I believe the AMD 48XX series is not supported by GPU2 any longer. Get a cheap 8xxx or 9xxx series Nvidia card for better ppd. Heck, I still got some laying around. I'm using a GTX275 part time and getting 9500ppd from it.

popswala · Sep 9, 2012, 09:11 PM

I have a 275 but not sure what its getting since the ppd says unknown. It still folds though as it makes progress through wu's. I have a board that support amd cards but not sure what the cut off is on them. Not looking to go to knew as I don't know how long I may even run that board. Its an old am2+ foxconn board.

[Ion] · Sep 9, 2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by popswala

By chance does anyone know what the cut off is on the cards? Like whats the oldest card thats still getting wu's. I'm looking to get an amd card to get another rig running but not sure if it'll still get work. Same goes for nvidia cards. I think the 2xx's are done for. I'm looking at a 4850 but not sure if its worth it. I just need something with S-Video Out since that rig is near my tv but doesn't have a screen. That way I can get on it that way without having to move my screen back an forth.

Definitely go with an nVidia card, ATI cards are far, far slower for FAH compared to nV. An 8800GT can be had for ~$30 used, and should do ~4-4.5k PPD and I believe has sVideo. Alternatively, a GT440/GTS450 wouldn't make a bad choice

popswala · Sep 9, 2012, 09:15 PM

I have given the 450's some thought if one ever comes around and I have the $$ for it. I'm just trying to figure things out and plan ahead. I'm not sure if I can run nvidia on the board i want to use. Its a Foxconn A7DA-S AM2+ 790GX. I just want to get it running as I can do some crunching on it and figured might as well fold to lol.

[Ion] · Sep 9, 2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by popswala

I have given the 450's some thought if one ever comes around and I have the $$ for it. I'm just trying to figure things out and plan ahead. I'm not sure if I can run nvidia on the board i want to use. Its a Foxconn A7DA-S AM2+ 790GX. I just want to get it running as I can do some crunching on it and figured might as well fold to lol.

Geeks.com has GTS450s for $50

You should have no issues running an nV card, I currently have an AMD X2 on some AMD chipset with a Geforce 8800GTS G80

popswala · Sep 9, 2012, 09:20 PM

I guess I'll google around and see what I can pull up on how to pull that off. I did stick my hdd on it with an os pre installed but since it has nvidia drivers I couldn't get into windows. I couldn't stay in bios long enough to enable onboard video to atleast get the board up and running to update all drivers and what not.

TRWOV · Feb 9, 2013, 06:07 AM

Is there any way to tell the FAH client to use an specific GPU if you have more than 1 on your system? I have a 7750 and a GT520 but I want to leave the 7750 crunching while the 520 folds. Running the V7 client in GPU-only mode.

NastyHabits · Feb 9, 2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TRWOV

Is there any way to tell the FAH client to use an specific GPU if you have more than 1 on your system? I have a 7750 and a GT520 but I want to leave the 7750 crunching while the 520 folds. Running the V7 client in GPU-only mode.

I've done it. Used a sorta dumb method. I added both, figured out which was which, (it will tell you what the chip is) and deleted the one I didn't want.

xBruce88x · Mar 6, 2013, 07:10 AM

having some problems with the 7.3 client installer... the damn thing skips the "setup" step during the install leaving me with an app that wont even start right, and if i manually start it from the installation folder it just sits there refusing to connect with some of the buttons missing, like switching to expert mode for example

BUCK NASTY · Mar 6, 2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xBruce88x

having some problems with the 7.3 client installer... the damn thing skips the "setup" step during the install leaving me with an app that wont even start right, and if i manually start it from the installation folder it just sits there refusing to connect with some of the buttons missing, like switching to expert mode for example

I had the same problem yesterday with 7.3.2 and the manual start. Ended up having top re-start the rig multiple times. I also can't get core 17 to work on any of my cards. I have removed the -beta flag and will avoid core 17 until they fix the bugs.

Athlonite · Mar 11, 2013, 12:42 PM

hey buck what GPU's were you tryin to do core_17 WU's on. I got it running fine on my HD7850 pullin 16800ppd with only 1~2% CPU usage

BUCK NASTY · Mar 11, 2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Athlonite

hey buck what GPU's were you tryin to do core_17 WU's on. I got it running fine on my HD7850 pullin 16800ppd with only 1~2% CPU usage

GTX570, GTX560Ti 448, and GTX460. Had the same problem on all 3. Took it off of beta and it seems to be fine now. May try a re-install of Client V7 to see if it helps.

Glad to see that AMD is "finally" kicking some PPD ass.

thebluebumblebee · Mar 11, 2013, 05:16 PM

FAH_core17 does not run on the V6 clients.

Athlonite · Mar 11, 2013, 10:53 PM

go grab V7.3.6 it's doddle to install cept the browser web control doesn't seem to work in opera for me it keeps timing out ohwell didn't use that any ways

after that do the client-type = -beta you'll get WU 7662 which is the new beta WU for all openCL based devices which should really go well on AMD GPU's and Fermi GPU's but at the moment not so well on Kepler based GPU's mainly because nVidia are lagging on updating their OpenCL driver to v1.2

BUCK NASTY · Mar 12, 2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Athlonite

go grab V7.3.6 it's doddle to install cept the browser web control doesn't seem to work in opera for me it keeps timing out ohwell didn't use that any ways

after that do the client-type = -beta you'll get WU 7662 which is the new beta WU for all openCL based devices which should really go well on AMD GPU's and Fermi GPU's but at the moment not so well on Kepler based GPU's mainly because nVidia are lagging on updating their OpenCL driver to v1.2

Ok, got 7.3.6 going and the GTX570/Phenom II FX-5000 are producing 42K PPD together(7661 WU). It's a weird relationship between the GPU and SMP fighting for CPU cycles, but I'll let it run it's course. Much more laggy this time around. Now to move on to the other rig and get the GTX560/460 running on 7.3.6

Edit: Got the 560Ti 448 and the 460 going on -beta. 560 pulls 35K, but the 460 only nets 14K. Going back to non beta for the 460.

thebluebumblebee · Mar 12, 2013, 08:53 PM

I have a problem with one of my systems that's been going on for a long time and I've (finally)started a thread over on the FF. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=23910
Answers there or here will be appreciated.

BUCK NASTY · Mar 12, 2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

I have a problem with one of my systems that's been going on for a long time and I've (finally)started a thread over on the FF. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=23910
Answers there or here will be appreciated.

Never been a big fan of the Folding Forum, as Bruce(no pun intended) tries to be "so proper". I see he has lived up to his rep and locked your thread already. I have noticed that each Core_17 instance will use one CPU core, so that is normal. Have you tried a process/affinity changer(PriFinity64) to prioritize the processes? Maybe set core_17 to a lower Priority than the rest of the system? How about locking Core_17's to CPU core#2&3 and let the rest of the system use 0&1? Just thinking out loud...

thebluebumblebee · Mar 12, 2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Never been a big fan of the Folding Forum, as Bruce(no pun intended) tries to be "so proper". I see he has lived up to his rep and locked your thread already.

...ask for help, get door slammed in face.

What is ironic is that I did EXACTLY what they asked as a non beta team member and got no response.

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Originally Posted by bruce

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If I can't get this figured out, I'm going to stop Folding on that system because my son is just getting fed up with an unusable system. 2x 900 MHz GTX 560 Ti's, good for up to 55K PPD.

F150_Raptor · Mar 13, 2013, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thebluebumblebee

I have a problem with one of my systems that's been going on for a long time and I've (finally)started a thread over on the FF. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=23910
Answers there or here will be appreciated.

Is it only acting up on the intel system with the 560's, or any graphic card that is put in the system?

thebluebumblebee · Mar 13, 2013, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by F150_Raptor

Is it only acting up on the intel system with the 560's, or any graphic card that is put in the system?

I have not tried anything else.

F150_Raptor · Mar 13, 2013, 04:07 AM

The first thing i noticed looking at the SS is you have 80 processes running on that machine, which is alot. From what I could see, you have 10 processes related to F@H and the programs running for the SS. If I added those 10 to what my rig is running for processes right now I'd be at 65, but there's 10 processes on my rig now that could be shut off and not run. So the maximum I'd have is 55 with every thing shut down that doesn't need to be running. I'd try to kill all the processes that you don't need to be running and see if the problem still exists.

thebluebumblebee · Mar 13, 2013, 04:41 AM

I can see all those processes causing a drag on the system, but causing higher cpu usage?

Aug 22, 2012, 10:39 AM	#2001
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Sep 9, 2012, 09:11 PM	#2005
popswala Join Date: May 2009 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,188 (1.50/day) Thanks: 1,602 Thanked 960 Times in 717 Posts System Specs	I have a 275 but not sure what its getting since the ppd says unknown. It still folds though as it makes progress through wu's. I have a board that support amd cards but not sure what the cut off is on them. Not looking to go to knew as I don't know how long I may even run that board. Its an old am2+ foxconn board. __________________ HEAT eBAY My Sale Thread FOLDING GTX 460 SC x2 / 6950 / GTX 275 CRUNCHING I7 870 4.08GHz/ I3 530 3.7GHz / Ph II X4 945 3.2GHzz / Ph II X4 940 3.4GHz / Ph II X3 720 3.4GHz / i7 720QM 1.60GHz = [21c/31t]

Sep 9, 2012, 09:15 PM	#2007
popswala Join Date: May 2009 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,188 (1.50/day) Thanks: 1,602 Thanked 960 Times in 717 Posts System Specs	I have given the 450's some thought if one ever comes around and I have the $$ for it. I'm just trying to figure things out and plan ahead. I'm not sure if I can run nvidia on the board i want to use. Its a Foxconn A7DA-S AM2+ 790GX. I just want to get it running as I can do some crunching on it and figured might as well fold to lol. __________________ HEAT eBAY My Sale Thread FOLDING GTX 460 SC x2 / 6950 / GTX 275 CRUNCHING I7 870 4.08GHz/ I3 530 3.7GHz / Ph II X4 945 3.2GHzz / Ph II X4 940 3.4GHz / Ph II X3 720 3.4GHz / i7 720QM 1.60GHz = [21c/31t]

Sep 9, 2012, 09:20 PM	#2009
popswala Join Date: May 2009 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,188 (1.50/day) Thanks: 1,602 Thanked 960 Times in 717 Posts System Specs	I guess I'll google around and see what I can pull up on how to pull that off. I did stick my hdd on it with an os pre installed but since it has nvidia drivers I couldn't get into windows. I couldn't stay in bios long enough to enable onboard video to atleast get the board up and running to update all drivers and what not. __________________ HEAT eBAY My Sale Thread FOLDING GTX 460 SC x2 / 6950 / GTX 275 CRUNCHING I7 870 4.08GHz/ I3 530 3.7GHz / Ph II X4 945 3.2GHzz / Ph II X4 940 3.4GHz / Ph II X3 720 3.4GHz / i7 720QM 1.60GHz = [21c/31t]

Feb 9, 2013, 06:07 AM	#2010
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Mar 6, 2013, 07:10 AM	#2012
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Mar 11, 2013, 12:42 PM	#2014
Athlonite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 1,386 (1.14/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 441 Times in 345 Posts System Specs	hey buck what GPU's were you tryin to do core_17 WU's on. I got it running fine on my HD7850 pullin 16800ppd with only 1~2% CPU usage __________________

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Mar 11, 2013, 05:16 PM	#2016
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Mar 11, 2013, 10:53 PM	#2017
Athlonite Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Napier, New Zealand Posts: 1,386 (1.14/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 441 Times in 345 Posts System Specs	go grab V7.3.6 it's doddle to install cept the browser web control doesn't seem to work in opera for me it keeps timing out ohwell didn't use that any ways after that do the client-type = -beta you'll get WU 7662 which is the new beta WU for all openCL based devices which should really go well on AMD GPU's and Fermi GPU's but at the moment not so well on Kepler based GPU's mainly because nVidia are lagging on updating their OpenCL driver to v1.2 __________________

Mar 12, 2013, 08:53 PM	#2019
thebluebumblebee Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 2,143 (1.20/day) Thanks: 1,559 Thanked 884 Times in 628 Posts System Specs	I have a problem with one of my systems that's been going on for a long time and I've (finally)started a thread over on the FF. http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=23910 Answers there or here will be appreciated. __________________ I got this because I am a fan of the simplistic sleek look of a computer case that doesn't look like Optimus Prime just threw up on my desk with enough LED's to land a commercial airliner. review P280 Newegg.com

Mar 13, 2013, 04:07 AM	#2024
F150_Raptor Join Date: May 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 345 (0.46/day) Thanks: 1,217 Thanked 727 Times in 232 Posts	The first thing i noticed looking at the SS is you have 80 processes running on that machine, which is alot. From what I could see, you have 10 processes related to F@H and the programs running for the SS. If I added those 10 to what my rig is running for processes right now I'd be at 65, but there's 10 processes on my rig now that could be shut off and not run. So the maximum I'd have is 55 with every thing shut down that doesn't need to be running. I'd try to kill all the processes that you don't need to be running and see if the problem still exists.

Mar 13, 2013, 04:41 AM	#2025
thebluebumblebee Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 2,143 (1.20/day) Thanks: 1,559 Thanked 884 Times in 628 Posts System Specs	I can see all those processes causing a drag on the system, but causing higher cpu usage? __________________ I got this because I am a fan of the simplistic sleek look of a computer case that doesn't look like Optimus Prime just threw up on my desk with enough LED's to land a commercial airliner. review P280 Newegg.com

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