AMD "Richland" Desktop APU Lineup Detailed

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by Aquinus

Wow, maybe it's because I was reading what the image you posted was saying and not what you wrote. No need to get defensive about it...Get off your high horse and calm down...take a couple deep breaths.

Really? You managed to infer quite a bit didn't you. Pity it was off the mark. Aside from a tongue-in-cheek jab at the propensity that AMD has for PPS/timetable revisions, I don't see anything defensive or supercilious about my post. But if you're willing to ascribe motivation to myself, maybe I should return the favour...so, if anything you're the one getting defensive-You've just noted that you don't know what µarch Richland is...yet blast me for using an educated guess, and AMD's own literature.

Originally Posted by Aquinus

If DX11 gen 1 is VLIW4 then it would be a good guess that gen 2 is VLIW5. You don't need to say it for it to make sense

Actually, it should be the other way around - and probably what xorbe was attempting to convey to you. VLIW5 predates VLIW4 in DX11 capable GPUs.
The VLIW5 HD 5870 (Cypress GPU) launched 23 Sept, 2009 was the first DX11 card. The VLIW4 HD 6970 (Cayman GPU) launched 15 Dec., 2010.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by HumanSmoke

Really? You managed to infer quite a bit didn't you. Pity it was off the mark. Aside from a tongue-in-cheek jab at the propensity that AMD has for PPS/timetable revisions, I don't see anything defensive or supercilious about my post. But if you're willing to ascribe motivation to myself, maybe I should return the favour...so, if anything you're the one getting defensive-You've just noted that you don't know what µarch Richland is...yet blast me for using an educated guess, and AMD's own literature.

Actually, it should be the other way around - and probably what xorbe was attempting to convey to you. VLIW5 predates VLIW4 in DX11 capable GPUs.
The VLIW5 HD 5870 (Cypress GPU) launched 23 Sept, 2009 was the first DX11 card. The VLIW4 HD 6970 (Cayman GPU) launched 15 Dec., 2010.

You would be surprised at how much a "" changes the tone of a post. You're right, they came in the other order, which just adds to the ambiguity of what AMD means by first and second gen DX11 chips, but it does make VLIW4 likely. Either way, we'll have to wait and see. I'm blasting you for using "AMD literature" and making it sound like it's all true, but its a decent guess. I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just saying there is that possibility that you're wrong and we don't know enough to stem that fact.

You're right though. Didn't think about when VLIW4 and 5 were released, you got me on that one.

[NeoXF]

So apparently desktop Richland APUs are comming out on the 19th of March, Notebook/ultraportable notebook Richland parts on the 7th of May. Kabini in late May, same for Temash it's led to be believed. Also supposedly new FX Piledriver CPUs in June as well.

This according to a news article on Softpedia, who's source is OBR-Hardware at least...

Sounds good to me, was hoping (and speculating) for a faster than June release of desktop Richland anyway. Kinda surprised that desktop parts are releasing first tho.

[HumanSmoke]

@Aquinus

The new Richland A-Series APUs are best described as improved Trinity APUs. They're based on the same second-generation "Piledriver" compute cores that had their APU debut in Trinity, and their GPU remains based on the AMD "Cayman" VLIW4 (very long instruction word) architecture.

AMD's Graphics Core Next, which we heard so much about at the company's 2011 Fusion Summit, doesn't make its appearance in Richland..

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[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by HumanSmoke

@Aquinus

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So you revived a thread that has been dead for how long to tell me something that was already discussed in this thread why again?

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by Aquinus

So you revived a thread that has been dead for how long to tell me something that was already discussed in this thread why again?

Because your last post seemed to based around proof, or lack of - I thought it was pretty obvious really:

Originally Posted by Aquinus

I'm blasting you for using "AMD literature" and making it sound like it's all true, but its a decent guess. I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just saying there is that possibility that you're wrong and we don't know enough to stem that fact

So, seeing as how the proof (that seemed to be your point of contention) hasn't actually been presented in the thread, I am now supplying said proof...it also stems from "AMD literature".

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by HumanSmoke

Because your last post seemed to based around proof, or lack of - I thought it was pretty obvious really:


So, seeing as how the proof (that seemed to be your point of contention) hasn't actually been presented in the thread, I am now supplying said proof...it also stems from "AMD literature".

Seeing how I already admitted defeat, all you're doing is pissing me off.

The thread is over a month old. Look before you post next time and read the entire thread if you're going to do it at least.

Originally Posted by Aquinus

You're right though. Didn't think about when VLIW4 and 5 were released, you got me on that one.

[HammerON]

Alright you two (HumanSmoke and Aquinus) - Agree to disagree and move along.