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Old Mar 10, 2013, 10:11 AM   #76
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HDMI is shit. Get over it. Cut your losses

The "new" 3 Stooges wont even get a 2nd glimpse from me, saw a couple previews and just shook my head. I grew up with the Stooges, shit my dad even saw them perform live back in the day! I wouldn't want to sully those memories
Don't blame the actors, but the writers which were approved by the Mow Haward's son. You know Hollywood and how hey like taking what's good and playing around with it for theer liking. But me I kind of liked the new version and hope they continue to make more. They had to adjust the film nd style for 2013, because of the gen.
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Already hooked up the tiny S/PDIF pass through cable my 250 came with, didn't make any difference. Still no HDMI device showing in the sound panel and as others have said (and I agree) it's probably not supposed to since it's technically passing audio through from the Realtk chip vs actually having built -in audio itself. So why would it even show as an audio device?

@FordGT and others talking about multi channel PCM,
When I see 7.1 PCM being mentioned but not 5.1 PCM, it makes me a bit worried, because I did read one post from a user that said he saw a 7.1 PCM option but not 5.1, and he was using a 5.1 audio system.
Use HDMI from the gpu to your reciever. Install the realtek codec that is recommend for your gpu, then restart your PC. You will see ths in your Windows sound properties. Adjust how many channels are supported (test to make sure you hear the sound out of the speakers and increase the quality to studio audio) and if you want change name to AMD 5.1CH HD or what ever you like. Then go into realtek and make sure its set in thre too.
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 10:14 AM   #77
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I use HDMI though a AV and when setup in windows right it automatically selects PCM Multi Channel.

It's never mattered made any issue's for me leaving the on-board enabled which i do as i use a mic though that card.You just have to make sure the ATI is selected for sound and that 5.1 has been all so selected and the receiver picks up the source.

And by doing so i can tell were the sounds are coming from to a near pin point.
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Old Mar 10, 2013, 10:27 AM   #78
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HDMI is so much better for audio than optical it's ridiculous. The sound still won't be loss-less even if it IS PCM, since it's compressed on the game end, but at least the loss ends there.
A: HDMI is not better than optical for audio. It's not worse either. They're about the same because its a digital signal and the audio device doesn't impact the audio stream at this point for both HDMI, optical, or coax.

B: PCM doesn't imply lossy quality. In fact PCM ensures that the audio stream isn't compressed. It's when you start using Dolby this and DTS that where your audio starts getting compressed.

I was also under the (perhaps mistaken?) impression that to get anything over 2.0 output you need to use DTS, Dolby, or some form of a multi-channel multiplexed signal. I thought that raw 6-channel PCM was too much bandwidth for HDMI which is why anything beyond 2.0 requires DTS or Dolby, at least this is the case with my video card and digital audio devices.

Also what do you mean the audio is compressed on the game's end? You mean how the files are stored? You shouldn't worry about that because that won't change for any particular game or application any time soon.
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A: HDMI is not better than optical for audio. It's not worse either. They're about the same because its a digital signal and the audio device doesn't impact the audio stream at this point for both HDMI, optical, or coax.

B: PCM doesn't imply lossy quality. In fact PCM ensures that the audio stream isn't compressed. It's when you start using Dolby this and DTS that where your audio starts getting compressed.

I was also under the (perhaps mistaken?) impression that to get anything over 2.0 output you need to use DTS, Dolby, or some form of a multi-channel multiplexed signal. I thought that raw 6-channel PCM was too much bandwidth for HDMI which is why anything beyond 2.0 requires DTS or Dolby, at least this is the case with my video card and digital audio devices.

Also what do you mean the audio is compressed on the game's end? You mean how the files are stored? You shouldn't worry about that because that won't change for any particular game or application any time soon.

HDMI can do 5.1 uncompressed, probably 7.1 as well. remember that they keep upping the HDMI specs, so theres been improvements since it all first launched.
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