2013 Chimp Challenge Discussion thread

BUCK NASTY · Feb 20, 2013, 01:00 AM

This is an informal thread to throw around the ideas being considered by the other team captains. Respond if you have any issues with the proposals. I need your feedback please!

Strong consideration for the CC to start on April 13th, 2013(prob @ Noon PST)
Contest will still be 10 days long
There is talk of a handicapped points system similar to last year. Also talk of multiple classes(points race, growth, combination)

...More to come

1freedude · Feb 20, 2013, 01:20 AM

OK, been waiting for this. Two months is good prep time.
I've decided only to fold on occasions like this.

[Ion] · Feb 20, 2013, 01:33 AM

What's a handicapped points system? And April 20th would be amazing IMO. Count me in for all of my spare CPUs

BUCK NASTY · Feb 20, 2013, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Ion]

What's a handicapped points system? And April 20th would be amazing IMO. Count me in for all of my spare CPUs

It's a weighted points system that allows smaller teams to compete with the bigger teams. Still too early to elaborate on the structure.

Norton · Feb 20, 2013, 09:26 PM

I'm starting to line up some gear for my rigs for this year's challenge

I have some quick question(s)

Is a GTX 670 any good for F@H?

What kind of ppd can I get out of a pair of GTX 580's?

How much does the CPU matter? I may run the cards in either an FX-8150 rig and/or Phenom II 1045T rigs or would a Xeon hex core make a significant difference?

theonedub · Feb 21, 2013, 07:10 AM

PPD will depend if the QRB is back, any news on that?

Solaris17 · Feb 21, 2013, 05:04 PM

april 20th is my bday!!

thebluebumblebee · Feb 22, 2013, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

I'm starting to line up some gear for my rigs for this year's challenge

I have some quick question(s)

Is a GTX 670 any good for F@H?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

What kind of ppd can I get out of a pair of GTX 580's?

I don't know of anyone on our team using 580's, but my 560 Ti's get upwards of 28k PPD, so I'd think 40% more than that.?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

How much does the CPU matter? I may run the cards in either an FX-8150 rig and/or Phenom II 1045T rigs or would a Xeon hex core make a significant difference?

The short answer is no. The 6xx series puts more load on the CPU than previous Nvidia cards, but it's still low in comparison to the ATI/AMD cards. I'm running 3 of my cards right now on single core socket 939 systems.

mx500torid · Feb 22, 2013, 05:01 PM

My 580 getting 29k - 36k according to wu

Norton · Feb 22, 2013, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx500torid

My 580 getting 29k - 36k according to wu

Any idea how a 670 would perform compared to a 580?

Heat? Output?

mstenholm · Feb 22, 2013, 05:49 PM

Less heat and less output.

ThE_MaD_ShOt · Feb 22, 2013, 06:02 PM

Would it be worth while to run a gtx 280? Also with Amd cards, how do they fair with a fast say 6 core cpu? 6850's and 7850's to be specific?

theoneandonlymrk · Feb 22, 2013, 06:04 PM

I'll be there

thebluebumblebee · Feb 22, 2013, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

Any idea how a 670 would perform compared to a 580?

Heat? Output?

You can compare the power usage in w1zzard's review of the GTX 670. As for output, Stanford is working on getting more out of the Kepler's, so we should see PPD rise over time. If the QRB's ever come back, the 580 is the way to go. If heat and power usage are a major concern, the 670 is the way to go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

Would it be worth while to run a gtx 280? Also with Amd cards, how do they fair with a fast say 6 core cpu? 6850's and 7850's to be specific?

We're only talking about 10 days, so yes, a GTX 280 is "worth it." AMD GPU's need a core for each GPU. Folding or crunching on the CPU's at the same time can be done but cores must be reserved for the GPU's or both PPD's will suffer.

Xavier Zepherious · Mar 13, 2013, 06:49 AM

yeah we are discussing things right now

we like to have votes this week and next on issues
15th (on date)
17th on new team VGT
18th on format/formula

sorry if you had to wait bucknasty - seems some teams are a little slow in sign up

we still don't have TSC,OCAU (Ive PM'd Bosun at TSC) signed in
MPC out again

BUCK NASTY · Mar 23, 2013, 04:05 AM

Looks like a mid-April start date possibly...?? I will say that this years CC is lacking organization, but I will camp in the Captains thread and hopefully have some solid info this weekend.

Edit: to be exact...April 13th (a Saturday), through April 22nd (a Monday).

[Ion] · Mar 23, 2013, 04:07 AM

Awesome, thanks for letting us know! I'll certainly throw in everything I have spare

Xavier Zepherious · Mar 24, 2013, 08:42 PM

We need this hammered out this week

Im waiting for capts to make suggestions on format/formula
EVGA has offered thoughts/ideas already - including last years - a rerun(with tweaks)

Im still waiting for ADAK's new one
if you have ideas please propose them in the capt thread

Xavier Zepherious · Mar 27, 2013, 04:52 AM

Adak Proposal is in CC capt thread - looks like its the one were using

check in,chime in, inform your team

hertz9753 · Mar 27, 2013, 06:13 AM

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&...h=Adak&mpage=1

BUCK NASTY · Mar 27, 2013, 12:12 PM

So far...

Dates are set in stone now(4/13/13 to 4/23/13)
No Chimp names this year(whole team is in by default)
Below is an example of the handicap points race we will most likely use this year.

mstenholm · Mar 27, 2013, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

So far...

Dates are set in stone now(4/13/13 to 4/23/13)
No Chimp names this year(whole team is in by default)
Below is an example of the handicap points race we will most likely use this year.

http://forum.axihub.ca/download/file.php?id=3

As far as I can see there is no example in your post. Anyway I'm away from my rigs (making money to future upgrades and to cover the high electricity cost due to the long European winter) so this year my contribution will be zero...sorry team.

Edit: Ahh, a hidden url

theoneandonlymrk · Mar 28, 2013, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

So far...

Dates are set in stone now(4/13/13 to 4/23/13)
No Chimp names this year(whole team is in by default)
Below is an example of the handicap points race we will most likely use this year.

http://forum.axihub.ca/download/file.php?id=3

I only stopped folding because im without own home atm but ive been busy and nearly ready ill be blagging my parents (

@ 36) they are virus scanning , just bought a new physx card gtx460 2win

116 uk notes

Norton · Mar 28, 2013, 02:18 AM

My folding rig should be ready by next Friday at the latest so count me in

[Ion] · Mar 28, 2013, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

So far...

Dates are set in stone now(4/13/13 to 4/23/13)
No Chimp names this year(whole team is in by default)
Below is an example of the handicap points race we will most likely use this year.

http://forum.axihub.ca/download/file.php?id=3

Sounds great--awesome!

Depending on the weather, I may even be able to bring the GTX470s over to FAH--we'll see how hot it is by then. No promises, but I'll do what I can

Feb 20, 2013, 01:00 AM	#1
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Feb 20, 2013, 01:20 AM	#2
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Mar 13, 2013, 06:49 AM	#15
Xavier Zepherious Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 13 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	yeah we are discussing things right now we like to have votes this week and next on issues 15th (on date) 17th on new team VGT 18th on format/formula sorry if you had to wait bucknasty - seems some teams are a little slow in sign up we still don't have TSC,OCAU (Ive PM'd Bosun at TSC) signed in MPC out again Last edited by Xavier Zepherious; Mar 15, 2013 at 05:29 AM.

Mar 23, 2013, 04:05 AM	#16
BUCK NASTY F@H Mod & 4P Enthusiust Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL. U.S.A. Posts: 4,047 (1.92/day) Thanks: 3,376 Thanked 2,907 Times in 1,474 Posts System Specs	Looks like a mid-April start date possibly...?? I will say that this years CC is lacking organization, but I will camp in the Captains thread and hopefully have some solid info this weekend. Edit: to be exact...April 13th (a Saturday), through April 22nd (a Monday). __________________ “I'll finally be able to drool over 8 gpu in one rig... And get sued by my wallet for violent physical damage...” -Feanor Last edited by BUCK NASTY; Mar 23, 2013 at 04:10 AM.

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[Ion] WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina, US Posts: 10,651 (7.93/day) Thanks: 8,239 Thanked 9,313 Times in 4,257 Posts System Specs	Awesome, thanks for letting us know! I'll certainly throw in everything I have spare __________________ Ion's WCG Essentials Thread Crunching (64 Threads + 896 CUDA Cores + 6272 Shaders): i3-2100@ 3.1 + HD7850 -- Atom D510 @ 1.66 -- C2D-M T9600 @ 2.8 -- i7-3612QM @ 2.8 -- i7-860 @ 2.9 + HD7950 -- i7-2700k @ 4.4 + 2xGTX470 -- PentDC-M T4200 @ 2.0 -- i7-920 @ 3.83 + 3xHD7770 -- DP Xeon E5420 @ 2.5 + HD7930 -- E1600 @ 2.4

Mar 24, 2013, 08:42 PM	#18
Xavier Zepherious Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 13 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	We need this hammered out this week Im waiting for capts to make suggestions on format/formula EVGA has offered thoughts/ideas already - including last years - a rerun(with tweaks) Im still waiting for ADAK's new one if you have ideas please propose them in the capt thread

Mar 27, 2013, 04:52 AM	#19
Xavier Zepherious Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 13 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Adak Proposal is in CC capt thread - looks like its the one were using check in,chime in, inform your team

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Mar 27, 2013, 12:12 PM	#21
BUCK NASTY F@H Mod & 4P Enthusiust Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL. U.S.A. Posts: 4,047 (1.92/day) Thanks: 3,376 Thanked 2,907 Times in 1,474 Posts System Specs	So far... Dates are set in stone now(4/13/13 to 4/23/13) No Chimp names this year(whole team is in by default) Below is an example of the handicap points race we will most likely use this year. __________________ “I'll finally be able to drool over 8 gpu in one rig... And get sued by my wallet for violent physical damage...” -Feanor Last edited by BUCK NASTY; Mar 27, 2013 at 11:35 PM.

Mar 28, 2013, 02:18 AM	#24
Norton WCG Team Assistant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northeast, USA Posts: 5,139 (9.95/day) Thanks: 5,371 Thanked 10,062 Times in 3,170 Posts System Specs	My folding rig should be ready by next Friday at the latest so count me in __________________ *Why sit on the Bench* when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!- World Community Grid (FTW) CPU crunchers- FX-8350(4.4)/FX-8150(4.0)/FX-6200(4.0)/ PII 1045T/PII 1045T/i7-920/Xeon (6c/12t)....(44 cores/54 threads) GPU crunchers- no WCG GPU work available Folding@Home- 2x GTX 580's WCG-TPU Mothers Day Challenge (5/10 thru 5/19- crunch for our Team, for Mom, for games and prizes )**

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