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Old May 4, 2007, 08:11 PM   #651
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At my old job I had a user call me up and demand I come down and fix their computer immediately(they had infected it with spyware, which was somehow my fault). I mean she was yelling that at me. My responce: "Well you have just found your way to the back of the line, I suggest you find a comfortable place to sit, perhaps start a camp fire, because you are going to be there for a very long time." It almost got me fired, but ooooh was it worth it.
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I used to work as a lead Unix admin for a Fortune 5 company. The people didn't give me grief but the nonsense coming down from the corporate bean counters was absurd. I was actually told not to use the word "spare", like in spare parts, on my acquisition requests because they thought spare parts were a frivilous expense.

I quit not long after that and move out into the sticks and now work for a small company. The money is not as good but it's a lot more fun. Now when salespeople ask, "Do you work in the IT department?", I tell them I AM the IT department
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More musings ....

I need a new CPU cooler. Thermalright has just released their Ultra 120 Extreme which is getting great reviews, but I am wondering if I should hold off a little longer to see how their IFX-14 is in comparison.

One of the things I am seeing with the quad is a rather large difference between the cores.
Right now I am folding at 2.6GHZ and the core look like this ...
Core 0 : 69C
Core 1 : 67C
Core 2 : 63C
Core 3 : 65C

I am wondering if the weight of the Scythe Mine cooler (as it is pretty large) is causing half of the chip to be warmer due to gravity pulling the cooler down as the Mobo is vertical in the case.

I've got a fan in the PSU, 4 case fans (including the 250mm one on the side) and the one on the Mine (I do believe it is a 90mm). I have kicked around the idea of going to a 120mm on the Mine cooler.

I don't want to do liquid cooling (not worried, just don't want the maintenance) and some of the top of the line air coolers seem to do as well as the Peltiers.

So ... toss out your thoughts. All are welcome to help me decide.
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FX-14 is reviewed by HardOCP http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==

If your Scythe is bolted on properly, it should not have any effect on cooling performance.

As for the Peltier, the TEC air cooler everyone's been reviewing is not a TRUE TEC cooler. The TEC inside the cooler is only a 50W, which is pathetic compared to the 220W-473W Peltiers used in enthusiast peltier cooling. The latter can produce below zero temps depending on cpu wattage, and requires liquid cooling to properly cool the peltier element.
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I have read the review of the IFX at HardOCP, but they do not compare it to anything worthy. I am waiting to see it stacked up against the competition.

It appears that Thermalright is only competing against themselves at the moment as nothing is matching their air coolers.

I would like to see how the IFX compare to the 120 Extreme.
I really don't care about price, just get me a cool fold

Thanks for your reply ToFu

Nevermind, I am going to take this question into the cooling forum as it should be there and I will probably get more feedback.
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how much ram is good to pair with an oced amd 3700 for folding at home
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how much ram is good to pair with an oced amd 3700 for folding at home
If you are using the 2GB of RAM in your system specs, you are fine.
I think I saw that you have 4x512 ?
Steevo posted that 512MB is a bit skinny

I see you got 2 WUs done.
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yea i been folding on and off all day but the ram is not for my current rig i have 3700+, mobo and junk siting around i might just slap the rage 128 pci in it with a 11mb wifi card and throw it in a box somewhere let it run 24/7 was just wondering how much ram has an impact on the folding performance in a single cpu setup
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I think that if you have 512MB of RAM you may be doing some disk thrashing, although according the the Stanford site, that is sufficient.
If you can toss a 1GB in there, I think the computer will be happier
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hopefuly D44ve can hook me up with a sweet deal on a gig of ram and a 40gig HD
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You should not need a huge HDD as the largest result file I have seen is about 30MB
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another quick ? what does it mean when its says completed xx as it only takes me about 6 min to go from one the next is that good ?
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Cuz your usng GPU right I always get 300 something Score on every WU and get lil under 200 Score on my P4

how many secs per frame are you getting ?
i use the console version as it suggest on the fah site because the gui and render window slow down the process and have bugs but when i did try it it would get up to 3 Frames per second some times tho fraps could be wrong as it didn't appear to be moving that fast
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another quick ? what does it mean when its says completed xx as it only takes me about 6 min to go from one the next is that good ?
You will see something like ...

Complete 130000 out of 500000 steps (26)

The last number is the total number of steps in the WU, the first is how far along you are.
The number in parenthesis is the percent complete. In my example, 26% complete.

Six minutes is quick. How big are the WUs you are doing ? (The second number)

Your score seems kind of low for 3 WUs. I seem to be averaging about 600 points per WU.
I am not sure how they are handing out points. I think bigger WUs are worth more points, and
I think I am getting extra points when I complete one using the SMP core.
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Did D44ve set you up with some new hardware ?
If not, let me know what you are looking for.
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Different cores result in different speeds of precessing for the WU's. Please keep that in mind. So for example awhile back they released the number 78 core that required a Intel Processor and at least 512Mb of RAM, it processed faster, but required more processing power, RAM, and more bandwidth, so it was worth more. GPU cores are working much faster, and with 512 or available video ram they are able to hand out larger WU's. So there again, you will get cores or WU's based of your systems ability, and actual performance.


We are upgrading our server as the PSU died and took a new 320GB hard drive with it. plus we are going to be using the actual power of it more now. So I am upgrading it to 3GB of RAM and over a terrabyte of RAID 5 storage. I will also overclock it to 3.8 or 4HGhz as it stays pretty cool with the Arctic Cooler on it. More powah!!!!!!
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We are upgrading our server as the PSU died and took a new 320GB hard drive with it. plus we are going to be using the actual power of it more now. So I am upgrading it to 3GB of RAM and over a terrabyte of RAID 5 storage. I will also overclock it to 3.8 or 4HGhz as it stays pretty cool with the Arctic Cooler on it. More powah!!!!!!
Steevo ... a suggestion.

1) Quit your job.
2) Move to WI
3) we'll open a custom rig shop
4) When it's slow, we'll go fishing

Mo Powah !!
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I would but they pay me too well, and I get to do what I want.



It has been offline since Monday for folding, as the PSU actually threw sparks and blew a breaker and knocked the UPS offline too. It has been one of those weeks. This Monday we get our Office 07 ultimate edition multi-user pack, and the RAM and new hard drives. Plus two hard drives to RMA. So that will be better. The server ran non stop 24-7 for three years with no hiccups and this year I have had shit luck. Three hard drives, one power supply, a UPS, two case fans. had to rebuild it once already, when we migrated to RAID 5. Two more years to go on it's projected life cycle. Then I get to build a new server.




And amen to the fishing. I am going in June for a week and two weekends, then a week after that whitewater rafting. I need vacation. Where there are no computers, cellphones, or annoying users.
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It has been offline since Monday for folding, as the PSU actually threw sparks and blew a breaker and knocked the UPS offline too. It has been one of those weeks. This Monday we get our Office 07 ultimate edition multi-user pack, and the RAM and new hard drives. Plus two hard drives to RMA. So that will be better. The server ran non stop 24-7 for three years with no hiccups and this year I have had shit luck. Three hard drives, one power supply, a UPS, two case fans. had to rebuild it once already, when we migrated to RAID 5. Two more years to go on it's projected life cycle. Then I get to build a new server.




And amen to the fishing. I am going in June for a week and two weekends, then a week after that whitewater rafting. I need vacation. Where there are no computers, cellphones, or annoying users.
Yeah, my servers have been running for years without any problems, so they are due anytime. I try to update them whenever I get the chance, but ...

We are heading for the Minnesota/Canadian boundry waters for 10 days on a houseboat at the end of July. I can't wait

Walleye, Northern, Bluegill, Bass ... WE BE COMIN' !!

I forgot to metion that I don't know where you are Steevo, but we live on 14 wooded acres on a river and the place is appraised at about $150K. You can get a lot in WI without breaking the bank Not to mention the beer and brats ... Gets cold in the winter, but that is a plus for overclocking !!
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Colorado.



Where we go camping is 10,000ft elevation. gets to -5F or so during the summer at night. Everyone calls me a polar bear as I have a high metabolism, I sleep half uncovered at night in the mountains, and without air conditioning during the summer I can't sleep. Winter is nice, good and cold.


This is the group that went last summer. I am on the left, my wife next to me with our son. My son is named for the area, Taylor Gunnison. This year we are hoping for about 20-30 of us can go for the full week.
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Where we go camping is 10,000ft elevation. gets to -5F or so during the summer at night. Everyone calls me a polar bear as I have a high metabolism, I sleep half uncovered at night in the mountains, and without air conditioning during the summer I can't sleep. Winter is nice, good and cold.


This is the group that went last summer. I am on the left, my wife next to me with our son. My son is named for the area, Taylor Gunnison. This year we are hoping for about 20-30 of us can go for the full week.
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Yeah they do, keep it up, I kinda miss folding with my 1950Pro

SMP dont work either for me, so im using the basic I wont be in 5th for much longer
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yea i tried the smp version too and it keep getting some error, client core communications error: Error 0xffffff i don't know whats up with it
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