Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-6400 2 GB Kit

infrared · Mar 7, 2007, 09:23 AM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/Tracer_6400/

WarEagleAU · Jun 27, 2007, 09:40 PM

Sweet kit and sweet results. The price isnt bad either, less than what I paid for my GSkill DDR400

infrared · Jun 27, 2007, 09:43 PM

I couldn't believe the price either. It was originally a lot higher, but i guess with the PC2-8000 and PC2-8500 kits here now they lowered it a lot. Certainly great value!

I'll post a new set of results shortly on my new Asus P5K Deluxe when it arrives. I'm hoping that i can run the modules 1140mhz 1:1! We'll see anyway

Sovereign · Jun 27, 2007, 10:38 PM

Thanks for the wonderfull review, Infrared!

I personaly own this kit and am just in love with them! It's too bad my motherboard is holding them back from their true potential. I've had Corsair XMS and OCZ EL Platinum & Platinum XTC in the past and nothing compares to Crucial and their Ballistix & Ballistix Tracer line! I'm going to go play with them some more and see if I can't get better results!

lucassp · Jun 27, 2007, 10:48 PM

Quote:

According to the EPP profiles, this RAM is capable of 1 GHz with only 2.2V. It will be interesting to see if this is possible.

There are low end value sticks that can do 1000MHz 5-5-5-15 2T at ONLY 1,9V.

infrared · Jun 27, 2007, 11:02 PM

Great... go ahead and use that then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sovereign

Thanks for the wonderfull review, Infrared!

I personaly own this kit and am just in love with them! It's too bad my motherboard is holding them back from their true potential. I've had Corsair XMS and OCZ EL Platinum & Platinum XTC in the past and nothing compares to Crucial and their Ballistix & Ballistix Tracer line! I'm going to go play with them some more and see if I can't get better results!

Thanks for the compliments, and I'm glad you're enjoying yours as much as me!

Grings · Jun 27, 2007, 11:05 PM

damn infrared, i thought you were selling your ram when i saw this thread, bugger

infrared · Jun 27, 2007, 11:19 PM

Sorry

Sovereign · Jun 28, 2007, 12:18 AM

In case anyone is wondering, PriceGuideNetwork.com is currently selling this kit @ $110 !!! I've bought a 1GB kit of Ballistix PC3200 from them in the past and can attest to good service and fast shipping.

Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (1GBx2) DDR2-800 PC2-6400 240-pin LED Gaming Memory BL2KIT12864AL804 @ $110.44 USD

Paulieg · Jun 28, 2007, 01:04 AM

I have the 2x1GB PC2-8500 Tracers. I currently have them set at 950mhz 4-4-4-6 1T and 2.150v on my evga 680i board. They are super fast. I did try to test them at 4-3-3-6, which caused errors. Probably asking too much! They were $219 with a $75 rebate, bringing them to $144. I just got an email confirmation from crucial, that the rebate is being processed. Sweet.

Ketxxx · Jun 28, 2007, 01:49 AM

Try 3-3-4-8, they should like that.

hat · Jun 28, 2007, 02:04 AM

Micron D9??
Hm so I suppose the Tracers ARE better than the Ballistix for overclockability??

Paulieg · Jun 28, 2007, 02:04 AM

Nope. They did not like that at all. Just a long beep. I even tried to give it 2.2v (spec).

Paulieg · Jun 28, 2007, 02:06 AM

Yes, they are D9's. My guess is they are the best of the best, since they are top of the line, and Crucial is owned by Micron.

DOM · Jun 28, 2007, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat

Micron D9??
Hm so I suppose the Tracers ARE better than the Ballistix for overclockability??

No there the same just the Tracers got the Blk HS and leds

I think cuz look a mine Crucial Ballistix (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) {OC'ed to 1100Mhz@5-5-5-15} @ 2.25v dont have 2.2v just 2.15,2.25

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucassp

There are low end value sticks that can do 1000MHz 5-5-5-15 2T at ONLY 1,9V.

Edit: I tryed it again @ 1000Mhz 5-5-5-15 1.8v and passed

Also look at my specs. 1100Mhz @2.05v

On the Rivew Good Job

lucassp · Jun 28, 2007, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

I tryed mine @ 1000Mhz 5-5-5-15 1.9v and passed but which ones are going to OC better and with lower Tim

yeap, Crucial sticks are far better than mine using low timings

zOaib · Jun 28, 2007, 11:17 AM

< ------ proud Owner of the Ballistix pc 1000 4gb kit.

Ketxxx · Jun 28, 2007, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

Nope. They did not like that at all. Just a long beep. I even tried to give it 2.2v (spec).

Change one latency at a time until you find the latency that causes the system to not boot, that latency is likely the latency that isnt supported in the SPD data.

Paulieg · Jun 28, 2007, 03:11 PM

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I'll play around with it tonight. I also wonder if 950mhz is too high with tight timing like you suggested. I'm gonna try underclocking them a little more, and see if it helps. Then, I think I will start testing the latencies one at a time. On another note, people have mentioned that they see better performance on DDR2 with higher frequencies, and looser timings. I've found the opposite to be true, particularly in super pi and everest benchmarking.

Ketxxx · Jun 28, 2007, 05:29 PM

Clock them to 800MHz with a starting voltage of say 2v, adjust latencies one at a time to fund that latency that isnt supported in the SPD data, then see how far you can take the modules before having to increase voltage

Ravenas · Jun 29, 2007, 05:19 AM

does this ram come with a little sticker like most g.skill ram does? lol i know this is a stupid question but im interested

alias_1ab · Jun 30, 2007, 06:12 AM

does anyone else have a problem with the ddr2-6400 ballistix being identified by CPU-Z on a EVGA 680i NF-63 board? cpu-z shows me no information about the ram at all. nor does everest or nvidia control panel. and it doesnt matter whether if i take out the 2 ballistix sticks without the leds or vice versa no matter what speed settings. any ideas on whats the issue?
(i have 2 x 1 gb non-tracers and 2 x 1 gb tracers, all ddr2-6400)
(also have memory voltage set to auto which the board determines is 2.2v)
(can easily hit 1 ghz at 5-5-5-15 timings)
(currently running at 853 mhz at 4-5-5-13 timings, Linked FSB:MEM ratio of 5:4)

Paulieg · Jun 30, 2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias_1ab

does anyone else have a problem with the ddr2-6400 ballistix being identified by CPU-Z on a EVGA 680i NF-63 board? cpu-z shows me no information about the ram at all. nor does everest or nvidia control panel. and it doesnt matter whether if i take out the 2 ballistix sticks without the leds or vice versa no matter what speed settings. any ideas on whats the issue?
(i have 2 x 1 gb non-tracers and 2 x 1 gb tracers, all ddr2-6400)
(also have memory voltage set to auto which the board determines is 2.2v)
(can easily hit 1 ghz at 5-5-5-15 timings)
(currently running at 853 mhz at 4-5-5-13 timings, Linked FSB:MEM ratio of 5:4)

Have you updated the bios to p28? If you haven't try that. The flash through Nvidia update actually works quite well.

infrared · Jun 30, 2007, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenas

does this ram come with a little sticker like most g.skill ram does? lol i know this is a stupid question but im interested

nope, sorry. Whats the one that cames with g.skill ram? a case sticker?

alias_1ab · Jun 30, 2007, 10:48 PM

ive already updated the bios for the board. im pretty sure it was doing the same thing even before I flashed the board. Maybe its a slight defect with the board? From what ive read online about the EVGA NF-63 board is they basically are NF-68 boards but they were "declassified" because they couldnt run the quad-core cpus or something like that. Too bad I dont have another DDR2 board to test the ram out in.

Mar 7, 2007, 09:23 AM	#1
infrared Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 2,878 (0.98/day) Thanks: 233 Thanked 185 Times in 156 Posts System Specs	Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-6400 2 GB Kit To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/Tracer_6400/ __________________ I don't suffer from insanity - I enjoy every minute of it! Last edited by infrared; Jun 27, 2007 at 08:30 AM.

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Paulieg The Mad Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wherever I can find the iron. Posts: 11,448 (4.95/day) Thanks: 2,519 Thanked 3,054 Times in 2,098 Posts System Specs	Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I'll play around with it tonight. I also wonder if 950mhz is too high with tight timing like you suggested. I'm gonna try underclocking them a little more, and see if it helps. Then, I think I will start testing the latencies one at a time. On another note, people have mentioned that they see better performance on DDR2 with higher frequencies, and looser timings. I've found the opposite to be true, particularly in super pi and everest benchmarking. __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." -Henry Rollins My heatware Save lives by joining the TPU WCG team!

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Jun 30, 2007, 06:12 AM	#22
alias_1ab Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 13 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	does anyone else have a problem with the ddr2-6400 ballistix being identified by CPU-Z on a EVGA 680i NF-63 board? cpu-z shows me no information about the ram at all. nor does everest or nvidia control panel. and it doesnt matter whether if i take out the 2 ballistix sticks without the leds or vice versa no matter what speed settings. any ideas on whats the issue? (i have 2 x 1 gb non-tracers and 2 x 1 gb tracers, all ddr2-6400) (also have memory voltage set to auto which the board determines is 2.2v) (can easily hit 1 ghz at 5-5-5-15 timings) (currently running at 853 mhz at 4-5-5-13 timings, Linked FSB:MEM ratio of 5:4)

Jun 30, 2007, 10:48 PM	#25
alias_1ab Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 13 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	ive already updated the bios for the board. im pretty sure it was doing the same thing even before I flashed the board. Maybe its a slight defect with the board? From what ive read online about the EVGA NF-63 board is they basically are NF-68 boards but they were "declassified" because they couldnt run the quad-core cpus or something like that. Too bad I dont have another DDR2 board to test the ram out in.

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