Suggestions for good SATA2 HDD to run RAID

Trung · Jul 11, 2007, 08:14 AM

Can anyone recommend any good hard drives with at least 16mb cache to run RAID with 250GB capacity???

Wile E · Jul 11, 2007, 08:16 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148155

That's my suggestion. Perpendicular recording, and it's optimized for RAID arrays.

Trung · Jul 11, 2007, 08:33 AM

I'll be running my comp for long periods of time do you think the HDD will be able to handle the stress

Wile E · Jul 11, 2007, 08:38 AM

Yes. It's intended for enterprise use. (Servers)

oily_17 · Jul 11, 2007, 08:40 AM

Second Wile E suggestion,I have two of those in raid0 and no problems with them at all.

My comp runs 24/7 and have had no worries with them,also they are quite cheap and relatively quiet.

FOXCONN1115 · Jul 11, 2007, 08:44 AM

well depending on how much storage you want/ need.. I have these, and they CREAM raptors even in RAID-0... and I've left my computer running 24x7 for over a month with no problems... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148140

Trung · Jul 11, 2007, 08:47 AM

Oh ok what about the NS and SV series, what do you think of them...i heard there pretty good too....do you guys know anything about them???

FOXCONN1115 · Jul 11, 2007, 08:53 AM

i honestly haven't tried them or heard anything on them, however seagate drives are usually awesome no matter what model you get.. i have an older sata1.5gb drive still running no problems, over 3 years old

Trung · Jul 11, 2007, 08:59 AM

I'm just afraid that if i get an oem HDD, and it blows or whatever on me in 6 months i cant return it.....i havent had much luck this year hahaha...anyways back to the subject, are there any other brands that manufacture HDDs that are good....although i'm leaning towards the seagate but good to have some choices available

Wile E · Jul 11, 2007, 09:03 AM

OEM just means that it doesn't come in a retail box, and doesn't include a SATA cable. The OEM Seagates still carry their 5yr warranty. I only buy OEM drives. I'm not paying extra money, just to have a cable I don't need and a fancy box.

Western Digital is another manufacturer to consider, tho the Seagates outperform them at this point.

Trung · Jul 11, 2007, 09:49 AM

Ok thanks heaps, i dont know which one yet but i'll take into consideration all your suggestions....probably end up buying the one you guys suggested haha...thanks heaps everybody...if there are anymore suggestions feel free to add.

DanTheBanjoman · Jul 11, 2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Trung

I'll be running my comp for long periods of time do you think the HDD will be able to handle the stress

If that's the situation and you wonder if they can handle it don't stripe, use actual RAID, I'd recommend 5.

Trung · Jul 11, 2007, 11:46 AM

I was going to run 3 HDDs but not for awhile...it would set me back to much....so at the moment i'm going with only 2 HDDs with RAID 0.

RAID 5 is using 3 HDDs...correct me if i'm wrong not to familiar with RAID......but they are all mirroring so if 1 of 3 HDD failed then the system will allow time for the failed HDD to be replaced right...and the data will not be vulnerable until a second HDD fails and definitely both drives must be replaced before data lost....but can i ask how does it make the system quicker...are they striping on all 3 drives???? I think i'm way off base hahaha, correct me if i'm worng please.

ex_reven · Jul 11, 2007, 11:50 AM

http://www.acnc.com/04_01_05.html

RAID 5, very well illustrated and explained.
Btw I third (or fourth) the reccomendation of the Seagate 7200.10, Ive got two atm and im about to get a third. Im very impressed with them

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DanTheBanjoman · Jul 11, 2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trung

I was going to run 3 HDDs but not for awhile...it would set me back to much....so at the moment i'm going with only 2 HDDs with RAID 0.

RAID 5 is using 3 HDDs...correct me if i'm wrong not to familiar with RAID......but they are all mirroring so if 1 of 3 HDD failed then the system will allow time for the failed HDD to be replaced right...and the data will not be vulnerable until a second HDD fails and definitely both drives must be replaced before data lost....but can i ask how does it make the system quicker...are they striping on all 3 drives???? I think i'm way off base hahaha, correct me if i'm worng please.

RAID 0 technically isn't even RAID

RAID 5 doesn't mirror, it uses 1 (or more) disks as parity disk. 3 is the minimal amount of drives you'd need. Basically data is read and written from/to multiple drives at once, thats how it improves performance as well.

Grings · Jul 11, 2007, 12:04 PM

has anyone seen any good performance comparisons between raid 3 and raid 5? ( i got a dirt cheap netcell based xfx raid card that does raid 3)

DanTheBanjoman · Jul 11, 2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grings

has anyone seen any good performance comparisons between raid 3 and raid 5? ( i got a dirt cheap netcell based xfx raid card that does raid 3)

RAID3 is superior when you use large files. It is hardly used though. In most situations RAID5 works better.
RAID 3 and 5 are technically the same, the only difference being that the parity is on a single disk with RAID3 and with RAID5 it is spread across disks.
Just stick with RAID5

DRDNA · Jul 11, 2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oily_17

Second Wile E suggestion,I have two of those in raid0 and no problems with them at all.

My comp runs 24/7 and have had no worries with them,also they are quite cheap and relatively quiet.

I am going to 3rd Wile E as I am using them also in raid-0.

Trung · Jul 11, 2007, 12:15 PM

Oh thanks ex_reven but i was pretty way off base hahaha oh wells i tries lol....so your impressed with the seagate 7200.10 too aye....if you guys think its good i might go with...better to hear it from people who have it then to read specs lol

So thats RAID 5 aye, hmmm ok for now i'll run with the 0 until i can afford a 3rd drive ahahaha...so poor....so whats with RAID 5+0??

Demos_sav · Jul 11, 2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FOXCONN1115

i honestly haven't tried them or heard anything on them, however seagate drives are usually awesome no matter what model you get.. i have an older sata1.5gb drive still running no problems, over 3 years old

3 years is old? I have a 4GB 10+ years old still running on my second comp

Grings · Jul 11, 2007, 12:28 PM

cheers dan, however this raid card (xfx revo 64, 3 port) only does raid 0, 1 and 3, i'll be giving it a go (raid 3) once my new drive turns up as i have 3 identical 250g drives, but ones in use atm

ex_reven · Jul 11, 2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Demos_sav

3 years is old? I have a 4GB 10+ years old still running on my second comp

Yes but is that a high performance drive?

Sometimes its the simple things that work best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grings

cheers dan, however this raid card (xfx revo 64, 3 port) only does raid 0, 1 and 3, i'll be giving it a go (raid 3) once my new drive turns up as i have 3 identical 250g drives, but ones in use atm

My onboard does 0, 1, 10 and 5...its pretty damn nifty.

Jul 11, 2007, 08:14 AM	#1
Trung Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 (0.03/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Suggestions for good SATA2 HDD to run RAID Can anyone recommend any good hard drives with at least 16mb cache to run RAID with 250GB capacity???

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Jul 11, 2007, 08:16 AM	#2
Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.47/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,826 Times in 3,124 Posts System Specs	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148155 That's my suggestion. Perpendicular recording, and it's optimized for RAID arrays. __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

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Jul 11, 2007, 08:33 AM	#3
Trung Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 (0.03/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I'll be running my comp for long periods of time do you think the HDD will be able to handle the stress

Jul 11, 2007, 08:38 AM	#4
Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.47/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,826 Times in 3,124 Posts System Specs	Yes. It's intended for enterprise use. (Servers) __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

Jul 11, 2007, 08:40 AM	#5
oily_17 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 2,056 (0.85/day) Thanks: 214 Thanked 679 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Second Wile E suggestion,I have two of those in raid0 and no problems with them at all. My comp runs 24/7 and have had no worries with them,also they are quite cheap and relatively quiet. __________________ Join The TPU Folding@home Team

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Jul 11, 2007, 08:44 AM	#6
FOXCONN1115 Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 320 (0.14/day) Thanks: 13 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts System Specs	well depending on how much storage you want/ need.. I have these, and they CREAM raptors even in RAID-0... and I've left my computer running 24x7 for over a month with no problems... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148140

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Jul 11, 2007, 08:47 AM	#7
Trung Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 (0.03/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Oh ok what about the NS and SV series, what do you think of them...i heard there pretty good too....do you guys know anything about them???

Jul 11, 2007, 08:53 AM	#8
FOXCONN1115 Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 320 (0.14/day) Thanks: 13 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts System Specs	i honestly haven't tried them or heard anything on them, however seagate drives are usually awesome no matter what model you get.. i have an older sata1.5gb drive still running no problems, over 3 years old

Jul 11, 2007, 08:59 AM	#9
Trung Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 (0.03/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I'm just afraid that if i get an oem HDD, and it blows or whatever on me in 6 months i cant return it.....i havent had much luck this year hahaha...anyways back to the subject, are there any other brands that manufacture HDDs that are good....although i'm leaning towards the seagate but good to have some choices available

Jul 11, 2007, 09:03 AM	#10
Wile E Power User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western PA (Pittsburgh suburbs) Posts: 18,129 (7.47/day) Thanks: 450 Thanked 3,826 Times in 3,124 Posts System Specs	OEM just means that it doesn't come in a retail box, and doesn't include a SATA cable. The OEM Seagates still carry their 5yr warranty. I only buy OEM drives. I'm not paying extra money, just to have a cable I don't need and a fancy box. Western Digital is another manufacturer to consider, tho the Seagates outperform them at this point. __________________ Visit Ashentech “What the hell did you expect? Leave Vista under the pillow and the OS fairy would make it Win7?” -El Fiendo “And Bring Mailman back god damnit, he is the Eric Cartman of TPU” -MRCL

Jul 11, 2007, 09:49 AM	#11
Trung Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 (0.03/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Ok thanks heaps, i dont know which one yet but i'll take into consideration all your suggestions....probably end up buying the one you guys suggested haha...thanks heaps everybody...if there are anymore suggestions feel free to add.

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Jul 11, 2007, 11:46 AM	#13
Trung Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 (0.03/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I was going to run 3 HDDs but not for awhile...it would set me back to much....so at the moment i'm going with only 2 HDDs with RAID 0. RAID 5 is using 3 HDDs...correct me if i'm wrong not to familiar with RAID......but they are all mirroring so if 1 of 3 HDD failed then the system will allow time for the failed HDD to be replaced right...and the data will not be vulnerable until a second HDD fails and definitely both drives must be replaced before data lost....but can i ask how does it make the system quicker...are they striping on all 3 drives???? I think i'm way off base hahaha, correct me if i'm worng please.

Jul 11, 2007, 11:50 AM	#14
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	http://www.acnc.com/04_01_05.html RAID 5, very well illustrated and explained. Btw I third (or fourth) the reccomendation of the Seagate 7200.10, Ive got two atm and im about to get a third. Im very impressed with them .

Jul 11, 2007, 12:04 PM	#16
Grings Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Blighty Posts: 1,983 (0.83/day) Thanks: 96 Thanked 187 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	has anyone seen any good performance comparisons between raid 3 and raid 5? ( i got a dirt cheap netcell based xfx raid card that does raid 3)

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Jul 11, 2007, 12:15 PM	#19
Trung Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 (0.03/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Oh thanks ex_reven but i was pretty way off base hahaha oh wells i tries lol....so your impressed with the seagate 7200.10 too aye....if you guys think its good i might go with...better to hear it from people who have it then to read specs lol So thats RAID 5 aye, hmmm ok for now i'll run with the 0 until i can afford a 3rd drive ahahaha...so poor....so whats with RAID 5+0??

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Jul 11, 2007, 12:28 PM	#21
Grings Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Blighty Posts: 1,983 (0.83/day) Thanks: 96 Thanked 187 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	cheers dan, however this raid card (xfx revo 64, 3 port) only does raid 0, 1 and 3, i'll be giving it a go (raid 3) once my new drive turns up as i have 3 identical 250g drives, but ones in use atm

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