Intel Sheds Light on Penryn Enhancements

D_o_S · Aug 6, 2007, 10:54 AM

With Intel's Penryn set to launch next quarter, Intel has decided to shed some light on improvements it has made to the architecture, and prove that Penryn is not just a shrunk Conroe.

Intel has decided to improve existing Wide Dynamic Execution, Advanced Smart Cache, Advanced Digital Media Boost and Intelligent Power Capability, technologies that previously made their debut with Conroe and Merom.

Below is Intel's Tick-Tock long term roadmap, as well as "Penryn" plans (source: HKEPC)

Penryn enhances Wide Dynamic Execution technology with a fast radix-16 divider and improved Virtualization technology, which should boost divide instruction capability and reduce virtual machine transition latencies by 25-to-75%.

Advanced Smart Cache not only increases the cache size (6MB and 12MB L2-cache on dual and quad-core CPUs, respectively), but also reduces its latency.

Advanced Digital Media Boost technology is the inclusion of a new Intel SSE4 instruction set. SSE4 introduces 47 new instructions to improve performance of video accelerators, graphics building blocks and streaming load. Intel claims a 2x performance gain in video acceleration tasks. There are 14 new instructions for video accelerator performance enhancement. Intel improves compiler auto-vectorization performance with 32 new instructions.

Intel expects SSE4 optimizations to deliver performance improvements in video authoring, imagine, graphics, video search, off-chip accelerators, gaming and physics applications.

Mobile Penryn processors receive enhanced power saving technologies. New to the mobile Penryn is a deep power down state. In the deep power down state, the processor lowers the core voltage, more so than in the C4 state, and turns off the L1 and L2 caches. Intel claims significant power savings in idle modes for extended battery life with the new power state.

Source: DailyTech

crow1001 · Aug 6, 2007, 11:07 AM

Its another

for AMD, Intel look set for market domination for say, the next thousand years..

reueljoab · Aug 6, 2007, 11:39 AM

they need to do this... so that AMD won't be able to catch up with them easily.

Wile E · Aug 6, 2007, 11:47 AM

Man, I really hope K10 has something to offer. It's not looking too good for AMD.

Tatty_One · Aug 6, 2007, 11:53 AM

Agree with the comments about AMD needing to do something big and quick.....I really hope that Phenom does not disappoint (but I think it might having see this - just a guess) but it took Intel 3 years to get the upper hand in the desktop scene 2003-2006 so this may be a similar situation for the opposition now, I just hope they manage to overtake again at some stage, without the competition we will all be worse off.

ex_reven · Aug 6, 2007, 11:56 AM

I dont know what any of it means!
But it sounds good

. lol

EastCoasthandle · Aug 6, 2007, 12:58 PM

wolfdale @ 2.33

ex_reven · Aug 6, 2007, 01:14 PM

Nice find.

mdm-adph · Aug 6, 2007, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

wolfdale @ 2.33

Aw, gotta love these little Asian boards with all their secret technology information -- they do make the stuff right in their backyards, I guess.

Someone on that bbs actually poses an interesting question -- could the next release of MacOS X have been delayed so that it could roll out simultaneously with the new Intel chips?

jocksteeluk · Aug 6, 2007, 01:44 PM

this current rivalry is great for the consumer, i cannot wait for intel to enter the high end vga market just to squeeze Nvidia also.

EastCoasthandle · Aug 6, 2007, 01:47 PM

That's not all. It's suppose to be OC'able up to 4.0 GHz with ease

Atech · Aug 6, 2007, 02:53 PM

I hear the marketspeak, but I don't hear the engineerspeak.

I want to know how it works, not some flashy buzzwords that took all night for a group of £500 an hour dossers to synthesise. Must I wait for Ars Technica to sift through the crap and actually say how it works every time?

mdm-adph · Aug 6, 2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atech

Must I wait for Ars Technica to sift through the crap and actually say how it works every time?

Yes. Maybe you're like me -- I don't come to this board for deep technical discussions, I come here to check the pulse of the average "PC enthusiast" consumer.

EastCoasthandle · Aug 6, 2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm-adph

Yes. Maybe you're like me -- I don't come to this board for deep technical discussions, I come here to check the pulse of the average "PC enthusiast" consumer.

well said

FreedomEclipse · Aug 6, 2007, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm-adph

Yes. Maybe you're like me -- I don't come to this board for deep technical discussions, I come here to check the pulse of the average "PC enthusiast" consumer.

Amen to that. but sometimes I do like to get deep down & technical every once in a while. otherwise I'm just here to have a poke & see whats happening in the IT world.....my only link to this life. If the site goes down I will hang myself with a DVI cable. or even worse....slit my wrists on the sharps of my Thermaltake shark case (note to self: must try a new blood mod on case)

By the power of greyskull!

Atech · Aug 6, 2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm-adph

Yes. Maybe you're like me -- I don't come to this board for deep technical discussions, I come here to check the pulse of the average "PC enthusiast" consumer.

In that case, I shall bid TPU farewell. I do not wish to be a victim of Bernaysian [sociopath, inventor of consumerism] appeal to emotion rather than reason.

driver66 · Aug 6, 2007, 05:16 PM

K cya!! Gl n fun

Aug 6, 2007, 05:19 PM

has anyone thought that with this out, and as far as I know, no such information available about amd's future, intel is giving away specs about their stuff that amd could easily take and improve on, assuming they haven't already thought about it?

a111087 · Aug 6, 2007, 05:39 PM

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=174497

HellasVagabond · Aug 6, 2007, 05:43 PM

AMD Prior to purchasing ATI would be able to flip the situation....But now with their economic difficulties its gonna be very very hard to do so. Lets just hope they make it.

Tatty_One · Aug 6, 2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atech

In that case, I shall bid TPU farewell. I do not wish to be a victim of Bernaysian [sociopath, inventor of consumerism] appeal to emotion rather than reason.

A life without reason is unreasonable.......a life without emotion is just plain dull

HookeyStreet · Aug 6, 2007, 06:02 PM

Another nail in AMD's coffin

PS: is it the same Nahelem that was spoke of in this article from 2003? : http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7481 (10.20GHz lmfao)

kwchang007 · Aug 6, 2007, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

Another nail in AMD's coffin

PS: is it the same Nahelem that was spoke of in this article from 2003? : http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7481 (10.20GHz lmfao)

lol no it isn't.

Wow 4ghz+ stock dual core and it beats current core 2's by a bit to. That's just great for amd....

WarEagleAU · Aug 6, 2007, 09:36 PM

Its not an AMD killer. Its not the end of AMD, you folks saying this pisses me off to no end. You worry about their money woes...its gonna happen with the acquisition of a huge company like ATI. In the end it will work out for the better for both companies.

AMD will be fine, their procs will be fine. these should float AMD with Intel if not spar well with Intel. Subtle changes on Intels front and nice improvements, but they really need to go with the on die memory controller, like theyve talked about.

driver66 · Aug 6, 2007, 09:46 PM

WHY ?? when they are

AMD?? And I am no fan of either

I like them both , I buy what's best. It is not looking good for competition

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