AMD Unveils Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition

zekrahminator · Aug 14, 2007, 08:12 PM

While every hardcore AMD fan awaits the Barcelona and Phenom series of CPUs, AMD is busy making the best out of what it has already. In a Japanese presentation, AMD showed off the Athlon 64 6400+ "Black Edition". This CPU should hit retail markets on August 20th, and should cost anywhere between $220 and $240 USD. The CPU runs on a 90nm process, and is clocked at 3.2GHz.

At the same presentation, AMD demoed a Phenom X4 system at 3GHz in an AMD RD790 motherboard. AMD somehow managed to present this without anyone getting good performance numbers.

Source: Nordic Hardware

kwchang007 · Aug 14, 2007, 08:46 PM

Why is AMD keeping K10 so under wraps, I remember before Conroe they were releasing benchmarks.

InfDamarvel · Aug 14, 2007, 08:58 PM

Swarm AMD FANBOYS AND BUY ANOTHER PROCESSOR THATS ONLY A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT.

hat · Aug 14, 2007, 09:00 PM

O........k....? ^^

DRDNA · Aug 14, 2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfDamarvel

Swarm AMD FANBOYS AND BUY ANOTHER PROCESSOR THATS ONLY A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT.

Per forum rules please fill out your hardware config in system specs in your controle panel or put them in a signature

thnx!
EDIT>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^my mistake there is no such rule..srry.

mandelore · Aug 14, 2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfDamarvel

Swarm AMD FANBOYS AND BUY ANOTHER PROCESSOR THATS ONLY A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT.

lol dont be a muppit

if there would be only a slight improvement if upgrading from ur current cpu to this, then wed go for a phenom

FreedomEclipse · Aug 14, 2007, 09:47 PM

Reguardless. Im holding out to see the colour of the Phenoms before I decide weather or not to clip my AMD ties & head for Intel C2d's skies.

I dont think my O/c'd X2 3800+ will be able to put up much of a fight when that time arrives. even now its kinda feeling its age. but I dont have the funds right now to carry out a full on overhaul & this system is less the a year old anyhoo

trt740 · Aug 14, 2007, 10:00 PM

Well the difference is the 6400+ is going to oc better than a 6000+ because it's a better quality bined chip and uses 89w to the 6000+ current 125w, which means less heat. I bet it will do 3.6ghz on air and if you have a 3800x2 to 4800x2 Windsor and need a upgrade that would be a giant one. A 6400+ will be very competative to the the current core 2 duos excluding the e6850. It should match up with a e6700 e6750. Don't get me wrong it will be slower just not that much real world difference.

a111087 · Aug 14, 2007, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trt740

Well the difference is the 6400+ is going to oc better than a 6000+ because it's a better quality bined chip and uses 89w to the 6000+ current 125w, which means less heat. I bet it will do 3.6ghz on air and if you have a 3800x2 to 4800x2 Windsor and need a upgrade that would be a giant one. A 6400+ will be very competative to the the current core 2 duos excluding the e6850. It should match up with a e6700 e6750. Don't get me wrong it will be slower just not that much real world difference.

you are actually right, i just read a review of this cpu vs e6850

just a little ocing and you got yourself AMD e6850

erocker · Aug 14, 2007, 10:36 PM

And AMD chips in your hand feel like gold while Intel's feel like um... cheap aluminum.

newbielives · Aug 14, 2007, 10:41 PM

If they had benchmarks to brag about they would be bragging already.

Thats my guess

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwchang007

Why is AMD keeping K10 so under wraps, I remember before Conroe they were releasing benchmarks.

kwchang007 · Aug 14, 2007, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbielives

If they had benchmarks to brag about they would be bragging already.

Thats my guess

That's what I'd think, but if they didn't have a good product, they'd also be hitting hard on the adverts about things like htt where Intel can't touch them, like in the 2+ server board segment. Idk....it was the same with the 2900xt, there weren't benchmarks before it was very close to being released. Maybe it's AMD's new stance.

Dippyskoodlez · Aug 14, 2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbielives

If they had benchmarks to brag about they would be bragging already.

Thats my guess

Apple brags about ipod improvements too.

left, right, up down.

and they dominate the market right?

Companys aren't 5 year olds trying to hide info 100% of the time.

Tatty_One · Aug 14, 2007, 10:55 PM

I still wait for the day anxiously when an AMD chip is in the No1 spot in both the Sceincemark and SuperPi threads

I fear however that at least for the SuperPI....that may be a while off yet.

newtekie1 · Aug 14, 2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DRDNA

Per forum rules please fill out your hardware config in system specs in your controle panel or put them in a signature

thnx!

There is no rule that you HAVE to have your system specs listed, in fact there is even an option to not show it even if it is filled out.

InnocentCriminal · Aug 14, 2007, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a111087

you are actually right, i just read a review of this cpu vs e6850

just a little ocing and you got yourself AMD e6850

Where was this review?

cdawall · Aug 14, 2007, 11:20 PM

you forgot to add this chip has 2X2mb cache and not 2x1MB like the 6000+ hence jumping up to 6400 and not 6200

this should oc well i wanna see a new AMD WR on these chips

oh and the slight improvment comment what improvement did you see from 1066mhz FSB to 1333MHZ FSB? intel

AMD is keeping up even with old chips 6400+ e6850 hmmmm well if you already have a sAM2 board the cost to upgrade is minimal. now the intel side you have a s775mobo oh wait it wont work cause intel locked the chips out of working on it

never heard of AMD making a BS stunt like that and intels been doing it since before s370 remember i810? or s423 anyone have one of the 3 chips released on that b4 the change to s478 like 10mins later

InnocentCriminal · Aug 14, 2007, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

... oh wait it wont work cause intel locked the chips out...

Yeah...

I was trying to see if my friend could have a E4300 or even a Q6600 in his i925X motherboard, but NOOOOOOO! Stooopid Intel. He doesn't need a new mobo. >

Don't think the Core 2 line supports DDR anyroad.*

* - DDR1 folks.

a111087 · Aug 14, 2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

Where was this review?

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?ti...400&rid=842214
enjoy

InnocentCriminal · Aug 14, 2007, 11:34 PM

Excellent! Cheers dude.

cdawall · Aug 14, 2007, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InnocentCriminal

Yeah...

I was trying to see if my friend could have a E4300 or even a Q6600 in his i925X motherboard, but NOOOOOOO! Stooopid Intel. He doesn't need a new mobo. >

Don't think the Core 2 line supports DDR anyroad.*

* - DDR1 folks.

no they do you can have them on the VIA chipped P4M800 stuff

InnocentCriminal · Aug 14, 2007, 11:37 PM

Oh right... shame he doesn't have a P4M800 chipset.

WarEagleAU · Aug 15, 2007, 12:20 AM

thats a big jum and amds highest clock chip yet. I want one

trt740 · Aug 15, 2007, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a111087

you are actually right, i just read a review of this cpu vs e6850

just a little ocing and you got yourself AMD e6850

What do you mean I'm actually right that a left handed complement If I ever heard one.

Here is the english short translation Posted by: Chris_Tom on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 04:41 PM

HKEPC Hardware has reviewed the Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition. It comes boxed, through the channel only, but without a heatsink. That saves on shipping costs I'm sure. Anyway, it appears to be about 2% to 12% faster than the 6000+, and it may just best the E6750, but not the E6850.

InnocentCriminal · Aug 15, 2007, 12:53 AM

I would have thought he (Chris Tom) would be referring to the 6400+ at stock, with a OC such as a111087 has suggest might bring it on par with one. That's how I've read it anyroad.

Aug 14, 2007, 08:12 PM	#1
zekrahminator McLovin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My house. Posts: 6,280 (2.33/day) Thanks: 105 Thanked 340 Times in 246 Posts System Specs	AMD Unveils Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition While every hardcore AMD fan awaits the Barcelona and Phenom series of CPUs, AMD is busy making the best out of what it has already. In a Japanese presentation, AMD showed off the Athlon 64 6400+ "Black Edition". This CPU should hit retail markets on August 20th, and should cost anywhere between $220 and $240 USD. The CPU runs on a 90nm process, and is clocked at 3.2GHz. At the same presentation, AMD demoed a Phenom X4 system at 3GHz in an AMD RD790 motherboard. AMD somehow managed to present this without anyone getting good performance numbers. Source: Nordic Hardware

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