Dell Reveals Barcelona Performance

JacKz5o · Sep 6, 2007, 07:07 PM

Barcelona should be available next week and when compared with Intel's Clovertown, Barcelona is 30% faster than Clovertown at floating point instructions. However, at integer instructions, Clovertown is approximately 30% faster than Barcelona. Dell also says they will continue to use AMD processors in their line up to give their customers a variety of choices to choose from.

Source: EETimes

a111087 · Sep 6, 2007, 07:40 PM

lies! all lies!!!

Sep 6, 2007, 07:42 PM

Fantastic!

Ravenas · Sep 6, 2007, 07:58 PM

Well now Wal-Mart sells Barcelonas too.

hat · Sep 6, 2007, 08:08 PM

sounds about right

DRDNA · Sep 6, 2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

Well now Wal-Mart sells Barcelonas too.

I doubt that very much.

DanTheBanjoman · Sep 6, 2007, 08:11 PM

Interesting, doesn't even beat Clovertown at integer, and since Clovertown will be replaced soon Barcelona will be too little too late. That is of course, if these numbers are correct.
If Tigerton fixes the memory bottleneck that Clovertown has Barcelona won't stand a chance in the 4+ socket market. Specially once CSI replaces the FSB, AMD better have a nie update coming in that case.

erocker · Sep 6, 2007, 08:16 PM

There hasn't been ANY real facts about Barcelona since some very early engineering samples were leaked. I can tell you now that there is no way in hell that Clovertown will even beat Barcelona in integer instructions. 30% is absolutely laughable. I'm so sure on this that if this story is actually true I will send Dan the Banjoman ten bucks through paypal.

Ravenas · Sep 6, 2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DRDNA

I doubt that very much.

Wal-Mart sells Dells, therefore, Wal-Mart will eventually sell Barcelonas.

DanTheBanjoman · Sep 6, 2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

Wal-Mart sells Dells, therefore, Wal-Mart will eventually sell Barcelonas.

Does Wal-Mart sell Dell servers?

DanTheBanjoman · Sep 6, 2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

There hasn't been ANY real facts about Barcelona since some very early engineering samples were leaked. I can tell you now that there is no way in hell that Clovertown will even beat Barcelona in integer instructions. 30% is absolutely laughable. I'm so sure on this that if this story is actually true I will send Dan the Banjoman ten bucks through paypal.

Where do you base that on? I think Dell is more credible that you are.

JacKz5o · Sep 6, 2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

Wal-Mart sells Dells, therefore, Wal-Mart will eventually sell Barcelonas.

Barcelonas are for servers and Wal-Mart doesn't sell Dell servers

Ravenas · Sep 6, 2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacKz5o

Barcelonas are for servers and Wal-Mart doesn't sell Dell servers

True, but can't be bought through Wal-Mart?

JacKz5o · Sep 6, 2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

True, but can't be bought through Wal-Mart?

Wal-Mart does not sell their servers. Most servers can only be ordered online.

Ravenas · Sep 6, 2007, 09:06 PM

Oh ok, I've never actually shopped for a Dell at Wal-Mart. I've always been so acustomed to buying them online.

Ben Clarke · Sep 6, 2007, 09:08 PM

Dell is only sold on-line. It says so on their website, I think. But they definitly only sell online, not in shops.

InnocentCriminal · Sep 6, 2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

There hasn't been ANY real facts about Barcelona since some very early engineering samples were leaked. I can tell you now that there is no way in hell that Clovertown will even beat Barcelona in integer instructions. 30% is absolutely laughable. I'm so sure on this that if this story is actually true I will send Dan the Banjoman ten bucks through paypal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

Where do you base that on? I think Dell is more credible that you are.

2nd!

Scrizz · Sep 6, 2007, 09:42 PM

actually dell sells some desktops in wal-marts now

kwchang007 · Sep 6, 2007, 09:58 PM

Sounds about right...correct me if I'm wrong but a Core 2 to a K8 is about 40% better than K8 at integer instructions. At floating point I believe Core 2 lost to K8 in a margin of 110-20% (not exactly sure). This is just K10 and Core 2 playing at their strengths, Core 2 was a evolution from P3, while K8 has always traditionally been strong at floating point with K10 being a relatively conservative branch out of K8.

tvdang7 · Sep 6, 2007, 10:13 PM

i dont even know that floating point or integer is..............

InnocentCriminal · Sep 6, 2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tvdang7

i dont even know that floating point or integer is..............

I'm not very clued up on it either, and I suspect someone will be able to explain it in a much better way than I can. But the way I understand the difference is that... with Floating Point(s) it's a string of numbers representing a value. The decimal point in that string of numbers can go anywhere. With an Integer, the decimal point is fixed and cannot be in a different place. Something like that - it's far too complicated for my feeble brain to fathom.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

WarEagleAU · Sep 6, 2007, 10:46 PM

I wouldnt think it wasnt true, but at least not that huge of a margin and remember, we are talking about servers here folks.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Sep 7, 2007, 02:04 AM

baloney ....

magibeg · Sep 7, 2007, 06:12 AM

I guess we'll just have to wait and see until the chips are released to see if this is all real or not... but if i had to bet money i'ld definately say that what we've been seeing is probably true.

IcrushitI · Sep 7, 2007, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

baloney ....

No thats Barcelony, what nationality are you,you'll have to pronounce it right.

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