Microsoft Auto-Updates Components of Windows Without User Permission - Page 2

Darkrealms · Sep 13, 2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kreij

I thought that was what the users were for ?

Shhhhh..... NO ONE needs to let the users know that ; P

Kreij · Sep 13, 2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkrealms

Shhhhh..... NO ONE needs to let the users know that ; P

Lol ... I just toss updates out on our servers and workstations and if something goes wrong I refer to This list to explain to them what has gone wrong. Excuse # 17 usually works on the technically challenged.

If you have never read any of the BOFH stuff you are really missing out.

p_o_s_pc · Sep 13, 2007, 08:31 PM

damn Microsucks if i wanted my system updated i would do it MYSELF. Microsucks may think they know best or better than the people using microsucks winblows. I hope they get there f&cking ass sued

effmaster · Sep 13, 2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

damn Microsucks if i wanted my system updated i would do it MYSELF. Microsucks may think they know best or better than the people using microsucks winblows. I hope they get there f&cking ass sued

Geez man wtf. Relax take a chill pill its ok your going to be just fine.
People may not know what their doing in Microsucks winblows but they sure as hell know what their doing in Microsoft Windows dumbass

Glump Bliermp · Sep 13, 2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darknova

Have you ever run a business? Have you ever run a network that needs to be 100% stable all the time?

I had the pleasure of working with a team for 6 weeks while i was off work, and it's one hell of a job, and any file that changes can cause problems, it may not, but you then have to test to make sure.

And like I said before, I highly doubt that any of your network software is reliant on 'Windows Update version: 1.49288C' for stability.

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Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

damn Microsucks if i wanted my system updated i would do it MYSELF. Microsucks may think they know best or better than the people using microsucks winblows. I hope they get there f&cking ass sued

LOL!!! Some of you need to grow up. Nobody is forcing you to buy Windows. This isn't communist China. I on the other hand like to update my software, because most of the time, makes things work better.

zekrahminator · Sep 13, 2007, 10:37 PM

Oh come on....

effmaster · Sep 14, 2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zekrahminator

Oh come on....

Whats your problem lol

Ravenas · Sep 14, 2007, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by zekrahminator

Oh come on....

Lol zek, you have too many cat pictures!

effmaster · Sep 14, 2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

Lol zek, you have too many cat pictures!

Indeed he does

zekrahminator · Sep 14, 2007, 01:59 AM

I still have more

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effmaster · Sep 14, 2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by zekrahminator

I still have more

.

rofl

thats just mean il have to find another one to fight yopu back with give me about an hour to search my computer of my cat

zekrahminator · Sep 14, 2007, 02:09 AM

You are no match for me and my 155 cat pictures

.

effmaster · Sep 14, 2007, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by zekrahminator

You are no match for me and my 155 cat pictures

.

bring it on i have over 200 at my disposal at my other computer don't have any more but i will have some first thing tomorrow

for now you can settle with this

zekrahminator · Sep 14, 2007, 02:16 AM

I'm going to have to use mine wisely then

.

Darknova · Sep 14, 2007, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Glump Bliermp

And like I said before, I highly doubt that any of your network software is reliant on 'Windows Update version: 1.49288C' for stability.

LOL!!! Some of you need to grow up. Nobody is forcing you to buy Windows. This isn't communist China. I on the other hand like to update my software, because most of the time, makes things work better.

Yes it is. There is delivery software which delivers updates to every other PC on the network at the same time during down-time, and if there happens to be a bug which prohibits that it's no longer an automated service, as you have to find which file, and either revert to an earlier, more stable, version, or update your delivery software to find a way around the bug.

Without sounding too rude, if you don't know what you are talking about, don't make a comment on the subject.

Glump Bliermp · Sep 14, 2007, 06:56 AM

You're making a theoretical scenario - and I know enough about computers to assume that this is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. When have you ever, in your entire life, heard of ANY software corrupting or causing problems on account of MS updating Windows Update? I never have.

Darknova · Sep 14, 2007, 07:00 AM

I don't doubt your knowledge of PCs, however from what I've seen you base everything on what you personally need, and on that account I am the same. For my Personal PC, I don't mind it being updated, I like everything to be updated, and any bugs that arise I will "try" to fix myself, or wait until another update comes a long. So I agree with you there.

However, I have seen it from a business point of view as well. My dad is currently working on rolling out Windows Vista worldwide for the FCO, and is also involved with the admins of the network. So both he and I know what we are talking about on this subject. It may be unlikely, it may not, but the fact that there is a CHANCE, is bad enough.

Ravenas · Sep 14, 2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Glump Bliermp

You're making a theoretical scenario - and I know enough about computers to assume that this is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. When have you ever, in your entire life, heard of ANY software corrupting or causing problems on account of MS updating Windows Update? I never have.

Lol are you serious?

zekrahminator · Sep 14, 2007, 11:13 AM

tkpenalty · Sep 14, 2007, 01:34 PM

you guys and your immature rant and rave... what is the point on disputing what microsoft does? Honestly, WHY are you using windows when you say it sucks balls? Please elaborate.

Glump, do you really think that microsoft puts out updates to deliberately screw us up? Maybe yes for the WGA, but realize this, you guys would do the SAME thing in their position, its a FACT. Secondly, it is very naive and ignorant to "go with the facts" then "go against the facts" to win an argument...please stop! Have you not realized that some microsoft updates have screwed people over with?

"LOL!!! Some of you need to grow up. Nobody is forcing you to buy Windows. This isn't communist China. I on the other hand like to update my software, because most of the time, makes things work better."

Cut the racism out as well.

EDIT: Refrain from the spam guys...

lemonadesoda · Sep 14, 2007, 02:36 PM

I have to agree this rumpus is about nothing.

If you select "auto updates" then why the complaints?

If you manually update, then all it is doing is affecting the UPDATE files ONLY. No system files. Should it "bomb out", then all it will mean is that you update will stop working.

BIG DEAL.

STORM IN A TEACUP.

How can people be talking about "mission critical" computers. The update is made ONLY WHEN you do a manual update. It just doesnt tell you it's doing some updates to the update program. YAWN.

Ketxxx · Sep 14, 2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaoticBlankness

By "hole" I mean the one they dig to piss off their customers. If I tell my OS not to update or phone home in any way, it better damn well not.

Ditto. I specifically disable auto-updates after they have been installed on a clean XP install, then I also disable the service for auto updates, not just disable it in automatic updates. I'd go apeshit if I found MS was "secretly" making changes to MY system without my knowledge.

mdm-adph · Sep 14, 2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpenalty

you guys and your immature rant and rave... what is the point on disputing what microsoft does? Honestly, WHY are you using windows when you say it sucks balls? Please elaborate.

If you know of any other operating systems that will allow you to play the most modern 3D games such as Bioshock, then please -- enlighten me.

Just because circumstances have caused you to have to use a certain product (Windows, etc.) doesn't mean that you don't have the rights to complain about it! On the contrary, I'd say it gives you all the more right since you've actually had to experience it.

Darknova · Sep 14, 2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

I have to agree this rumpus is about nothing.

If you select "auto updates" then why the complaints?

If you manually update, then all it is doing is affecting the UPDATE files ONLY. No system files. Should it "bomb out", then all it will mean is that you update will stop working.

BIG DEAL.

STORM IN A TEACUP.

How can people be talking about "mission critical" computers. The update is made ONLY WHEN you do a manual update. It just doesnt tell you it's doing some updates to the update program. YAWN.

"Regardless of whether or not a user has automatic updates turned off, Windows XP and Vista automatically update roughly nine files in Windows Update"

Ravenas · Sep 14, 2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm-adph

If you know of any other operating systems that will allow you to play the most modern 3D games such as Bioshock, then please -- enlighten me.

Just because circumstances have caused you to have to use a certain product (Windows, etc.) doesn't mean that you don't have the rights to complain about it! On the contrary, I'd say it gives you all the more right since you've actually had to experience it.

Most modern EA titles are on Mac. Blizzard games are on Mac. id is coming to Mac.

Alot of modern games can actually be played on ubuntu with wine.

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Sep 13, 2007, 08:31 PM	#28
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Sep 14, 2007, 02:16 AM	#39
zekrahminator McLovin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My house. Posts: 6,280 (2.33/day) Thanks: 105 Thanked 340 Times in 246 Posts System Specs	I'm going to have to use mine wisely then . __________________ “Just because you're hung like a moose doesn't mean you should do porn.”

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Sep 14, 2007, 06:56 AM	#41
Glump Bliermp Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 74 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You're making a theoretical scenario - and I know enough about computers to assume that this is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. When have you ever, in your entire life, heard of ANY software corrupting or causing problems on account of MS updating Windows Update? I never have.

Sep 14, 2007, 07:00 AM	#42
Darknova Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, United Kingdom Posts: 4,342 (1.80/day) Thanks: 113 Thanked 551 Times in 514 Posts System Specs	I don't doubt your knowledge of PCs, however from what I've seen you base everything on what you personally need, and on that account I am the same. For my Personal PC, I don't mind it being updated, I like everything to be updated, and any bugs that arise I will "try" to fix myself, or wait until another update comes a long. So I agree with you there. However, I have seen it from a business point of view as well. My dad is currently working on rolling out Windows Vista worldwide for the FCO, and is also involved with the admins of the network. So both he and I know what we are talking about on this subject. It may be unlikely, it may not, but the fact that there is a CHANCE, is bad enough.

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Sep 14, 2007, 01:34 PM	#45
tkpenalty Eligible for custom title Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 5,023 (2.04/day) Thanks: 412 Thanked 361 Times in 266 Posts System Specs	you guys and your immature rant and rave... what is the point on disputing what microsoft does? Honestly, WHY are you using windows when you say it sucks balls? Please elaborate. Glump, do you really think that microsoft puts out updates to deliberately screw us up? Maybe yes for the WGA, but realize this, you guys would do the SAME thing in their position, its a FACT. Secondly, it is very naive and ignorant to "go with the facts" then "go against the facts" to win an argument...please stop! Have you not realized that some microsoft updates have screwed people over with? "LOL!!! Some of you need to grow up. Nobody is forcing you to buy Windows. This isn't communist China. I on the other hand like to update my software, because most of the time, makes things work better." Cut the racism out as well. EDIT: Refrain from the spam guys... __________________ AMD Radeon X1950~HD4000 Support Clubhouse “Mac: "Woah, what are you doing?" Mac says as he levitates in the air. PC: "Playing Half-Life 2, this is my gravity gun." Mac: "Well I can sort of do that." PC: "Technically Mac, you have to become me first."” -From_Nowhere

Sep 14, 2007, 02:36 PM	#46
lemonadesoda Eligible for custom title Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,347 (2.15/day) Thanks: 750 Thanked 960 Times in 710 Posts System Specs	I have to agree this rumpus is about nothing. If you select "auto updates" then why the complaints? If you manually update, then all it is doing is affecting the UPDATE files ONLY. No system files. Should it "bomb out", then all it will mean is that you update will stop working. BIG DEAL. STORM IN A TEACUP. How can people be talking about "mission critical" computers. The update is made ONLY WHEN you do a manual update. It just doesnt tell you it's doing some updates to the update program. YAWN.

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