ATI RV670 is Radeon HD 3800 Series

malware · Oct 17, 2007, 07:35 PM

According to VR-Zone, the official name for AMD/ATI's RV670 will be Radeon HD 3000 series. Previously codenamed Radeon HD 2950 series, today one of the AIB partners - GeCube has even listed out Radeon HD 3800 on their website. AMD has also decided to drop PRO, XT, GT, XTX from their future HD 3000 series graphics cards. The last 2 digits of the model name will determine the performance of the card. For example RV670PRO will be known as Radeon HD 3850 while RV670XT will be known as Radeon HD 3870 when they are launched on November 15th.

Source: VR-Zone

lemonadesoda · Oct 17, 2007, 07:37 PM

Some marketing people at AMD need to fall on their swords.

RV670 is only a small update. Hardly an order of magnitude difference! The X2950, if anything, was probably overstating it, and better to have X2920.

I fondly remember the days of Radeon 7500, 8500, 9700... each time doubling or tripling performance. And all the $millions spent on teaching people about Pro, XT, XTX... all being thrown to the wind for another naming convention!

I hope that the new GPU, R7xx or whatever they call it, will go back to a more sensible naming convention, and "reset" the counters.

InfDamarvel · Oct 17, 2007, 07:40 PM

It would have been a good idea.....years ago. Now lets think about this Ati. You do still have products called the 9600 and 9800 and etc. You really have noobs out there confused because your horrible with your names.

Jimmy 2004 · Oct 17, 2007, 07:44 PM

Maybe a typo on the GeCube site? It could easily have been supposed to be HD 2800 - which might make more sense considering AMD always used to have 9800, X800 ect, but if the RV670 does perform better then that would be misleading. AMD should really have released the HD 2800s first rather than HD 2900, and released the rest under 2900.

a111087 · Oct 17, 2007, 08:01 PM

i like that they dropped those XT, XTX... less confusion for new people

mdm-adph · Oct 17, 2007, 08:03 PM

That's got to be a typo, right? I mean, it's only a revision...

I hope ATI/AMD aren't that eager to forget the HD 2000 line -- they're not that bad.

jocksteeluk · Oct 17, 2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm-adph

That's got to be a typo, right? I mean, it's only a revision...

I hope ATI/AMD aren't that eager to forget the HD 2000 line -- they're not that bad.

I think they already have forgotten about the 2000 products for the high end at least, mybe they will keep the 2000 for the lower end products.

WarEagleAU · Oct 17, 2007, 09:09 PM

I think this might let on to say that maybe its not just a revision, but they added changes to it. Only thing I can see for the new naming scheme.

Easy Rhino · Oct 17, 2007, 09:46 PM

if anything the new naming scheme makes it more complicated!

Jizzler · Oct 17, 2007, 10:23 PM

Very nice!

Death to the suffix!

ccleorina · Oct 17, 2007, 11:49 PM

WTF..... I just got 2 HD2900XT.... Now HD3000? DAMM....

magibeg · Oct 18, 2007, 12:15 AM

Maybe ATI will just skip ahead to the next generation and surprise everyone with a full hd3000 series. hd3900 with 640 stream processors

ccleorina · Oct 18, 2007, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magibeg

Maybe ATI will just skip ahead to the next generation and surprise everyone with a full hd3000 series. hd3900 with 640 stream processors

I hope it with 640 SP + 4X8pin PCI-E Power.....

a111087 · Oct 18, 2007, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccleorina

I hope it with 640 SP + 4X8pin PCI-E Power.....

no, PCI-E2.0 will provide more power to video card = no big need for additional connectors

ccleorina · Oct 18, 2007, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a111087

no, PCI-E2.0 will provide more power to video card = no big need for additional connectors

Hope so man.......

can wait see if HD3K can kick nvidia ass

ccleorina · Oct 18, 2007, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magibeg

Maybe ATI will just skip ahead to the next generation and surprise everyone with a full hd3000 series. hd3900 with 640 stream processors

Why don't make a dual core graphic card?

eidairaman1 · Oct 18, 2007, 09:08 AM

ya know what too many of you are too harsh on the company for making a major step, Honestly in my opinion the Naming Conventions were getting too f!@#$%^ long for pronunciation.

DanTheBanjoman · Oct 18, 2007, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccleorina

Why don't make a dual core graphic card?

They already exist, in fact, they have for many years. Even 3DFX made them.

Tatty_One · Oct 18, 2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a111087

no, PCI-E2.0 will provide more power to video card = no big need for additional connectors

Yep.....but we dont want any more power consumption, we want faster cards with higher speeds using less power and therefore producing less heat.....surely thats one of the main reasons for lowering the fabrication process, if every time you need to raise the power requirements to gain the speed with each generation then IMO that is nt really an advance in technology..........leading to the year 2050, when we all own our very own nuclear powerplant to power up our DX25 grapics cards!

Seany1212 · Oct 18, 2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Yep.....but we dont want any more power consumption, we want faster cards with higher speeds using less power and therefore producing less heat.....surely thats one of the main reasons for lowering the fabrication process, if every time you need to raise the power requirements to gain the speed with each generation then IMO that is nt really an advance in technology..........leading to the year 2050, when we all own our very own nuclear powerplant to power up our DX25 grapics cards!

agreed on sooo many levels

(to gfx manufactures:

)

AsRock · Oct 18, 2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccleorina

I hope it with 640 SP + 4X8pin PCI-E Power.....

effmaster · Oct 18, 2007, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seany1212

agreed on sooo many levels

(to gfx manufactures:

)

If only they would listen to us and actually did create lower power requirements

For Shame Nvidea

and for Shame ATI/AMD

More power means more connectors which means more space taken up on the graphics card which means less room to innovate. Im not sure but I do hope this is the 3000 series of cards from ATI/AMD since this will give them a head start on Nvidea since Nvidea wont be releasing their new series of cards until early 2008

Jizzler · Oct 18, 2007, 04:59 PM

From what I've gathered...

PCIe 2.0 slot = 150w.

If a card has a greater demand, then a single 150w 8-pin connector will be present (they want to do away with the 6-pin for simplicity).

I guess you can call it the "300w soft cap" - that hasn't changed (6-pin + 8-pin + PCIe = 300w). They're just shifting more of it to the motherboard (PCIe 2.0 + 8-pin = 300w).

-edit-

And these days we know that isn't true...

Tatty_One · Oct 18, 2007, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jizzler

From what I've gathered...

PCIe 2.0 slot = 150w.

If a card has a greater demand, then a single 150w 8-pin connector will be present (they want to do away with the 6-pin for simplicity).

I guess you can call it the "300w soft cap" - that hasn't changed (6-pin + 8-pin + PCIe = 300w). They're just shifting more of it to the motherboard (PCIe 2.0 + 8-pin = 300w).

Very true.....but my point is....300W is wwwwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much!

largon · Oct 18, 2007, 07:34 PM

What's the talk about 300W?

This thing is also PCIe 1.1a compliant so the cards' spec has an absolute max. power consumption of 150W.

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Jizzler Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Geneva, FL, USA Posts: 3,010 (1.43/day) Thanks: 567 Thanked 606 Times in 487 Posts System Specs	From what I've gathered... PCIe 2.0 slot = 150w. If a card has a greater demand, then a single 150w 8-pin connector will be present (they want to do away with the 6-pin for simplicity). I guess you can call it the "300w soft cap" - that hasn't changed (6-pin + 8-pin + PCIe = 300w). They're just shifting more of it to the motherboard (PCIe 2.0 + 8-pin = 300w). -edit- And these days we know that isn't true... Last edited by Jizzler; Apr 22, 2010 at 11:11 AM.

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