nightmare build from hell

freeboy · Oct 20, 2007, 02:37 PM

so, I had two ide drives. and old hard drive and a dvd drive on my 939 sys. When I purchased a p5k e drive it had one slot and trying to get a hard drive and a dvd master and slave has been a nightmare, plus windows foulup asking me a password I did not know etc.. so, I basiccaly am screwed and lost the dvd player, broke a pin, and need to redo all my sofware!
Are there boards out there with TWO ide ports (775)?
Any help apreciated! GREATLY

Lt_JWS · Oct 20, 2007, 02:46 PM

Most Nvidia 650i based boards have 2IDE ports.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128044

I had that board really liked it OCed great and tons of options. Best of luck!

JrRacinFan · Oct 20, 2007, 02:47 PM

You have more options than what you think beside purchasing a new motherboard. Especially with a nice motherboard like the P5k's.

You have this. IDE Controller card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16815280001

Or an adapter maybe...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156010

Or just plain out buy a new SATA Hdd.

freeboy · Oct 20, 2007, 03:25 PM

well, I am truly screwed now as I had to reinstall windows t othe partitioned "d"d drive the logical e, now it has my old d drive as my new c drive.. with my registry upside down.
I had nothing on the ide .. long story... per my friend I could get a longer cable ide.. BUT
Now I think I am committed to either a 35 or 38 chiped board.

So lets say I keep this board, drop the ide hd, no data anyway. leave the old d SATA as C, remember the screwy windows lost repair ? caused me to re install to the partition, I did not want to format old d. Can you say CLUSTER?
My local IT friend recomended a software that would simply tell my old componenets new registry.. IE they want to be on D but are actually on c... will this work and what is its name.. OR ]
]
Any other software related fixes that allow me to not hAve to transfer all my programs to another drive and reformat... THANKS for the above answers too... you cannot believe hol LOW I felt lat night! Especially after having done this several times!

note my freind thought the name was drive change but he was not sure

ok. this is the last post.. seems the "easiest" restoring d drive to D position , now as C is to disconnectthe sata, add new sata, install windows, and then configure drives letters.. thanks again..

keakar · Oct 24, 2007, 09:43 PM

just start over, reformat the whole drive then repartition and install windows.

at this point you have no reason not to stop the "cluster" and start over clean

kwchang007 · Oct 24, 2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keakar

just start over, reformat the whole drive then repartition and install windows.

at this point you have no reason not to stop the "cluster" and start over clean

Defiantly just start over.

freeboy · Oct 24, 2007, 10:28 PM

yep, total nightmare compounded by fan wire shorts and other issues, now stable and slightly overclocked as I migrate software to new sata drive and then do a complete format of the big sata, well, when its over I will have a great big empty hard drive to write to!

I really screwed up , now have started the new drive as a clean install...
does anyone know if you can raid non symetrical drives? ie smae speed different size?

DrunkenMafia · Oct 24, 2007, 10:55 PM

ouch man, your giving me a head ache !!!! lol..

Just nuke the lot and start fresh bro, you have already turned it all into spagetti anyways...

FYI... (in case you didn't know)

Remember when you have master and slave drives on the 1 ide cable that they must be connected in the right sequence or the pc will have a lot of errors and not work properly. The best way is to just set both the drives to cable select. If you really want to set one to master and the other to slave via jumpers then the master must be on the end of the cable from memory....

freeboy · Oct 24, 2007, 11:38 PM

ok here we are, ditched the last of the old ide hd, one still from last year need to be reinstalled in the old p4 and data salvaged, can you tell how excited about that I am?
the ide is only connected to the dvd rw, the sata are each connected into the "open" sata slots as my x1950 blocks some of them! anyway, system is working and stable, fan case upgrades are working , memory is super oc'd, only drawback is the time spent on all this crap was not spent oc the cpu which is now only at 3600 stable.

lessons learned:
A Do your prep on the old drives FIRST
B. learned how to, and not to, use a multi, tried to melt it! oops
C. Check wires first, then other issues.
D. Miscillanious,sp?.. learned alot of interesting hal stuff etc...
E. not a lesson but did verify the 12 vt line is good under stress..
F. MS is TERRIBLE for help.. "die u scum sucking leaches die" LOL

and the number one leasson learned: THESE BOARDS RULE!!! sanity makes acomeback!

tigger · Oct 24, 2007, 11:40 PM

I would'nt risk raiding them two drives,afaik they need to be the same size,same make.

freeboy · Oct 24, 2007, 11:42 PM

yep, probably will do it as the new 160 WD sata is a steal at 56$ locally.
thanks again all

ex_reven · Oct 24, 2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeboy

I really screwed up , now have started the new drive as a clean install...
does anyone know if you can raid non symetrical drives? ie smae speed different size?

I have two Seagate 7200.10's in RAID 0.
One is 320gb and one is 250gb. No problems at all since I installed the array.

I would have to advise against anything else being different. Eg - Brand, Model Name.
Also, if you have the same two drives and one is an older drive and one is new I wouldnt advise it either.

tkpenalty · Oct 25, 2007, 10:53 AM

Another piece of advice would be to have a new start with a new motherboard and Check what you buy before you buy it, so you dont end up biting the dust AFTER you purchase it. I'd highly recommend you make your setup ALL SATA; i.e. a new start. Hdds and Burners are dirt cheap anyway and it will greatly simplify everything.

Oct 20, 2007, 02:37 PM	#1
freeboy Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 576 (0.25/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	nightmare build from hell so, I had two ide drives. and old hard drive and a dvd drive on my 939 sys. When I purchased a p5k e drive it had one slot and trying to get a hard drive and a dvd master and slave has been a nightmare, plus windows foulup asking me a password I did not know etc.. so, I basiccaly am screwed and lost the dvd player, broke a pin, and need to redo all my sofware! Are there boards out there with TWO ide ports (775)? Any help apreciated! GREATLY

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Oct 20, 2007, 02:46 PM	#2
Lt_JWS Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 719 (0.27/day) Thanks: 35 Thanked 33 Times in 33 Posts System Specs	Most Nvidia 650i based boards have 2IDE ports. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128044 I had that board really liked it OCed great and tons of options. Best of luck! __________________ building a gaming rig for the first time in years

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Oct 20, 2007, 02:47 PM	#3
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Oct 20, 2007, 03:25 PM	#4
freeboy Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 576 (0.25/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	well, I am truly screwed now as I had to reinstall windows t othe partitioned "d"d drive the logical e, now it has my old d drive as my new c drive.. with my registry upside down. I had nothing on the ide .. long story... per my friend I could get a longer cable ide.. BUT Now I think I am committed to either a 35 or 38 chiped board. So lets say I keep this board, drop the ide hd, no data anyway. leave the old d SATA as C, remember the screwy windows lost repair ? caused me to re install to the partition, I did not want to format old d. Can you say CLUSTER? My local IT friend recomended a software that would simply tell my old componenets new registry.. IE they want to be on D but are actually on c... will this work and what is its name.. OR ] ] Any other software related fixes that allow me to not hAve to transfer all my programs to another drive and reformat... THANKS for the above answers too... you cannot believe hol LOW I felt lat night! Especially after having done this several times! note my freind thought the name was drive change but he was not sure ok. this is the last post.. seems the "easiest" restoring d drive to D position , now as C is to disconnectthe sata, add new sata, install windows, and then configure drives letters.. thanks again.. Last edited by freeboy; Oct 20, 2007 at 08:37 PM. Reason: adding info

Oct 24, 2007, 09:43 PM	#5
keakar Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,267 (1.00/day) Thanks: 382 Thanked 301 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	just start over, reformat the whole drive then repartition and install windows. at this point you have no reason not to stop the "cluster" and start over clean __________________ here are some guides that might help you: Guide to Proper Case Airflow Design How To Safely Clean The Dust From Your PC How to Build a Great Computer Desk for $50 in Under an Hour Helpfull Step by Step Troubleshooting Guide for Assembling Your First Computer

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Oct 24, 2007, 10:28 PM	#7
freeboy Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 576 (0.25/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	yep, total nightmare compounded by fan wire shorts and other issues, now stable and slightly overclocked as I migrate software to new sata drive and then do a complete format of the big sata, well, when its over I will have a great big empty hard drive to write to! I really screwed up , now have started the new drive as a clean install... does anyone know if you can raid non symetrical drives? ie smae speed different size?

Oct 24, 2007, 10:55 PM	#8
DrunkenMafia Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cairns QLD, Aussie Posts: 1,869 (0.80/day) Thanks: 230 Thanked 239 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	ouch man, your giving me a head ache !!!! lol.. Just nuke the lot and start fresh bro, you have already turned it all into spagetti anyways... FYI... (in case you didn't know) Remember when you have master and slave drives on the 1 ide cable that they must be connected in the right sequence or the pc will have a lot of errors and not work properly. The best way is to just set both the drives to cable select. If you really want to set one to master and the other to slave via jumpers then the master must be on the end of the cable from memory.... __________________

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Oct 24, 2007, 11:38 PM	#9
freeboy Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 576 (0.25/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	ok here we are, ditched the last of the old ide hd, one still from last year need to be reinstalled in the old p4 and data salvaged, can you tell how excited about that I am? the ide is only connected to the dvd rw, the sata are each connected into the "open" sata slots as my x1950 blocks some of them! anyway, system is working and stable, fan case upgrades are working , memory is super oc'd, only drawback is the time spent on all this crap was not spent oc the cpu which is now only at 3600 stable. lessons learned: A Do your prep on the old drives FIRST B. learned how to, and not to, use a multi, tried to melt it! oops C. Check wires first, then other issues. D. Miscillanious,sp?.. learned alot of interesting hal stuff etc... E. not a lesson but did verify the 12 vt line is good under stress.. F. MS is TERRIBLE for help.. "die u scum sucking leaches die" LOL and the number one leasson learned: THESE BOARDS RULE!!! sanity makes acomeback! Last edited by freeboy; Oct 25, 2007 at 02:52 AM.

Oct 24, 2007, 11:40 PM	#10
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Oct 24, 2007, 11:42 PM	#11
freeboy Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 576 (0.25/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	yep, probably will do it as the new 160 WD sata is a steal at 56$ locally. thanks again all

Oct 25, 2007, 10:53 AM	#13
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