AMD Phenom™ Club

[wiak]

lets talk about phenom
we know it comes 20th november in 2 diffrent flavurs
is Native Quad Core and fits in Socket AM2+ and Socket AM2 motherboards
it has Hyper Transport 3.0, TDP of 89W

AMD Phenom™ X4 9600 @ 2.4ghz
AMD Phenom™ X4 9500 @ 2.2ghz

[panchoman]

i'll join, not an amd fanboy, but i do want to see the little company (amd) beat the big one (intel)

[hat]

Well, I want one, and it would probably kick ass at SMP folding, but I know I won't be able to afford one.

If I had one, it would be the cheapest quad-core model (probably 1.8GHz, just my guesswork). I would probably OC it to a clean 2GHz.

[p_o_s_pc]

i want a Phenom if i can get the money i will get one.

[panchoman]

err this needs to be in the club forum section...

[von kain]

count me in....but i have to say it i am a mad fan boy ......

[wiak]

hehe :P

[WhiteLotus]

i wanna join!!! i want a phenom now! if the price is right...

[wiak]

Originally Posted by ARTT

i wanna join!!! i want a phenom now! if the price is right...

i know, prices should be around Intel Q6600 or something unless amd has something that is phenomonal and prices it 20-30% over intels quad :P

[Mediocre]

Should you actually have a product before trying to start a club? Just wondering here...

Also, why is this forum updated on the front page? Seems like it should have the same setup as general nonsense?



AMD's quads will be GREAT competition for the market segment....just don't think a club should be started unless someone actually HAS one of these....but then again I'm a fother mucker

[Frick]

http://news.expreview.com/2007-10-29...0532d6599.html

Still some time left before launch, but if these figures are true for the entire family of CPU's, AMD's still behind.. It's quite close though.

Also, this is only one game and it shouldn't be taken as teh truth. We'll see.

[Jizzler]

Originally Posted by wiak

lets talk about phenom

I'm hoping that AMD pulls one out with the Phenom as I'm excited about the 790FX/CrossfireX platform.

The top C2Q will most likely edge out the top PX4, but if AMD can deliver on their CrossFireX promises and I see motherboard manufacturer's putting the 790FX's 52 PCIe lanes to use, I'll be joining this club around tax refund time. Also, should be seeing boards with the new SB700 or SB750 southbridges by then.

[von kain]

i have to say phenom speeds lowered again but i don't know if there is because the speed is enough to compete intel's or it is a price/speed drop

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...m-slowed-again

Originally Posted by Mediocre

but then again I'm a fother mucker

Λ--literally??

[mandelore]

Heh, ive already got the first component for my phenom rig, some BallistiX tracer pc8500's, im getting a Asus M3A32-MVP soon as its out, and then im just gonna get me an x2 4000+ or something cheapo till the higher clocked phenoms come out.
My Tracers should be here by next week!

I have saved up alot of money, and expected to pay around £200 for the ram alone, but got mine for just £80. So that means I will have a shit load £500 + for getting the phenom FX or whatever its called and maybe an upgrade my my TEC setup. And I havent even sold my current rig parts yet, thats a volt modded A8R32-MVP Deluxe mobo (939), naked IHS stripped opty 185, and some killer DDR1 600 modules,

[von kain]

phenom fx would be on stores on q1 of 2008 and i can't wait anymore i would go for the 9700

[Mediocre]

Originally Posted by von kain

i have to say phenom speeds lowered again but i don't know if there is because the speed is enough to compete intel's or it is a price/speed drop

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...m-slowed-again


Λ--literally??

Yes. I have a 4yr old and a baby's momma whos a little hornball lol

AMD is doing what they have done in the past. Building chips in a logical way.

Instead of pasting 2 dual cores together (not necessarily a bad thing..) they are building a TRUE quad core on a single piece of silicon.

With 4 cores on a single piece of silicon comes lower (average) speed. The processor binning has to be quite different than Intel.

IMO 4 cores on a single piece of silicon (instead of pasting) is a more logical solution. You re-build the architeture because you're doing something completely different. Its logical. Whether it will work out is a debate in itself.

AMD's used to be comparable (and sometimes faster) than the intels at lower clocks. Lets hope they can keep doing it.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by Mediocre

Yes. I have a 4yr old and a baby's momma whos a little hornball lol

AMD is doing what they have done in the past. Building chips in a logical way.

Instead of pasting 2 dual cores together (not necessarily a bad thing..) they are building a TRUE quad core on a single piece of silicon.

That argument is old and invalid. SMP systems have had the cores on different chips since before the Pentium, you claim SMP systems have been illogical since forever?

Funny thing is, your argument goes for anything, ie why L3 cache when you can increase L2? Why system RAM when you can have eDRAM? There is always a "smoother" solution to everything, however there are always drawbacks. Think of yields and cost for example. Intel is holding the performance crown and nothing is suggesting that AMD is taking it. So unless those AMD chips are dirt cheap I don't see anything better in their solution.

[tigger]

the only problem with a "true" quad core is yields,if 1 core is duff then you have a phenom triple or a phenom duo.

I think its more practical if not the best way to use two duel core dies,the yields will be much higher.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by tigger69

the only problem with a "true" quad core is yields,if 1 core is duff then you have a phenom triple or a phenom duo.

I think its more practical if not the best way to use two duel core dies,the yields will be much higher.

How about research costs? And did you count the month that AMD's quad is behind on Intel's? Seen any news that suggests that it pays off? I do recall AMD saying it was a bad move...

[tigger]

Do you think all one die is actually better then?

Amd said quad on one die is a bad move?

[DanTheBanjoman]

[QUOTE=tigger69;517448]Do you think all one die is actually better then?[/quoteye]
I couldn't care less. All I care about is performance in this case. Why would it matter if it's 2 dies or one if the performance is the same?

Originally Posted by tigger69

Amd said quad on one die is a bad move?

Yes, marketing wise. It took way too long to develop, putting them behind. Rushing quads would have made money.

[hat]

I believe having a true quad core on one die than two dual cores on two dies is more efficent. Wouldn't the first solution offer lower temps and possibly lower power consumption?

[WhiteLotus]

Originally Posted by hat

I believe having a true quad core on one die than two dual cores on two dies is more efficent. Wouldn't the first solution offer lower temps and possibly lower power consumption?

have to agree with that - that is also my thinking.

since there will be out in 1st 2008 then that give me 2-3 months to save up. i hope they don't just slap a overly large price tag on it to make up for R+D costs. either way i am looking forward to these.

[wiak]

Originally Posted by ARTT

have to agree with that - that is also my thinking.

since there will be out in 1st 2008 then that give me 2-3 months to save up. i hope they don't just slap a overly large price tag on it to make up for R+D costs. either way i am looking forward to these.

you dont have that much time
9600 and 9500 is coming this 20th november and 9700 is coming in desember then rest of the family in januar 2008 :P

look what a friend of me found

HD9500WCGDBOX AMD Phenom X4 9500 (4MB,95W,AM2) box 247.00 USD
HD9600WCGDBOX AMD Phenom X4 9600 (4MB,95W,AM2) box 278.00 USD
HD9700XAGDBOX AMD Phenom X4 9700 (4MB,125W,AM2) box 288.00 USD
* these are estimates and excluding VAT

http://amdhawk.wordpress.com/2007/11...ices-shows-up/

[Snipe343]

im getting one sometime next year, im also a big fan boy