New Blu-ray 2.0 Spec Makes PS3 the Most Future-proof Player

[D_o_S]

With an unexpected announcement from Warner stating that the company would issue its movies on Blu-ray, the high-definition format war is over for many.

A new definition of Blu-ray is coming up, namely "Blu-ray 2.0". The 2.0 profile brings picture-in-picture and online functionality to Blu-ray discs; these movies will have "BD-Live" stickers on the case so you know certain features will require 2.0-compliant players.

Currently, the Playstation 3 is the only Blu-ray 2.0-compatible player available.


Below is a summary of the different requirements for the several Blu-ray standards:

• 1.0 is the launch profile, and secondary audio and video decoders are optional, as is local storage and network connectivity. The majority of standalone players fit into this category.
• 1.1 is the newer profile, and to take advantage of these discs, players need a secondary audio and video decoder to handle picture-in-picture, as well as at least 256MB of local storage for content.
• 2.0 is the profile of the future, requiring the two secondary decoders, 1GB of local storage for updates and content, and an Internet connection.

Source: Arstechnica

[cdawall]

thats cool and proves sony is going the im proprietary root *cough* beta max *cough*

[Ravenas]

Good to hear, I'm glad the updates keep coming!

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by cdawall

thats cool and proves sony is going the im proprietary root *cough* beta max *cough*

Excpet that old players can still play the movies, just not the extra features that the 2.0 standard brings and Sony didn't implement the new features, they are just part of committy that decided on it as a whole.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

Excpet that old players can still play the movies, just not the extra features that the 2.0 standard brings and Sony didn't implement the new features, they are just part of committy that decided on it as a whole.

so its not like beta max well thats good to konw thanks newteckie


i hope this war ends soon so i can pick one up for my mitsu 65" 1080P set

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by cdawall

i hope this war ends soon so i can pick one up for my mitsu 65" 1080P set

I just gave up and bought a PS3. I bought it mostly for the games, I only actually have 1 Blu-Ray movie and it came with the system. However, I will start using it as a Blu-Ray player eventually, and I figure someone is bound to figure out a way to connect a HD-DVD drive to it eventually.

Now that I think about it, it might already be possible via linux, I'll have to do some research on that.

[Snipe343]

On the note of the war, I personally think Blue Ray Disk will come out on top, Microsoft just shouldnt have another monopoly on another electronic type thing. And i also think that HDDVD thing is possible with linux, i read it somewere awhile back

[Ravenas]

Originally Posted by cdawall

so its not like beta max well thats good to konw thanks newteckie


i hope this war ends soon so i can pick one up for my mitsu 65" 1080P set

This war is already over, Bluray is the clear winner and all of the publishers are coming out and saying it. Right now, Toshiba is just hurting people by keeping their product on the market. People are going to be pissed when their player goes obsolete just because Toshiba won't stop production because they are in debt.

[Easy Rhino]

i have the movie "sunshine" and it has the picture in picture function which is pretty freakin cool. blu-ray and PS3 for the win!

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

I just gave up and bought a PS3. I bought it mostly for the games, I only actually have 1 Blu-Ray movie and it came with the system. However, I will start using it as a Blu-Ray player eventually, and I figure someone is bound to figure out a way to connect a HD-DVD drive to it eventually.

Now that I think about it, it might already be possible via linux, I'll have to do some research on that.

it is, and you can actually use the specific hd-dvd player that comes with the xbox360

just load up linux on your ps3, load up some drivers and hook up with hd-dvd player via usb to the ps3. there are a few howtos out there for the specifics.

[ShadowFold]

Man I just bought a bluray drive its already defective! I HATE sony

[Steevo]

MS owns the VC1 coding that BR uses, so they still win.

[Triprift]

Great just to make sure bl has the win then thats just super.

[Scrizz]

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Man I just bought a bluray drive its already defective! I HATE sony

that's the attitude

[1c3d0g]

Originally Posted by Steevo

MS owns the VC1 coding that BR uses, so they still win.

Blu-Ray can use any codec, be it regular MPEG-2, VC-1 or MPEG-4 AVC (H.264). Since the latter is most commonly acknowledged to be the best codec available ATM, I'm afraid M$ doesn't really win in that department either.

[Exceededgoku]

Really this war has been and is about Microsoft vs Sony... As companies go I much prefer Microsoft and would gladly back HD-DVD. But I have abstained from this battle because ultimately Microsoft wants to get rid of disc formats as well as Sony for their next consoles/home entertainment devices. Really both sides are fighting to see what sort of product customers want. I had some friends who adamantly believed that HD-DVD was just a DVD with better quality (which it is essentially) and believed that Blu-Ray was some sort of new technology that was completely different, yeah it soo didn't make sense that I can't articulate what he said! But to me it voiced the opinions of the average joe consumer to me and that is they don't need complex stuff they are happy with what they have and if it looks better than so be it but apparently Blu-Ray is the future because that's the one with the new name..

[Giletus]

I think I will wait a bit longer,to make sure Blue-ray is the clear winner.And hopefully for the prices to easy down a bit more.

[xxbulletinabiblexx]

Dude, I so have a freaking PS3. The older Blu Ray players by Samsung suck a mother. They have no USB port, such as the BD-P1000, my freaking queer paralyzed Uncle has that and I have to burn discs since his little Blu Ray is gayyyy and has no USB.

[Ravenas]

Blu-ray owns 75% percent of the market. Blockbuster and Target are blu-ray exclusive. Wal-mart is now advertising Blu-ray. Blu-ray has already won, Toshiba is just hurting the market for those buying now.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by Steevo

MS owns the VC1 coding that BR uses, so they still win.

VC1 is only used in some of the movies that came out on 25 gig disks and it isnt as good as AVC codec so hopefully VC1 will be phased out.

[Dangle]

So basically, BluRay 2.0 is no different from HD DVD 1.0

[wiak]

the first blu-ray movies was a train whreck, hehe they used crappy master transfers and mpeg2 as codec lol

blu-ray is also more DRM infected than HD DVD
BD got BD+, Region Code and AACS
HD DVD only have AACS

after the specs yes Blu-Ray 2.0 is HD DVD 1.0, sony was late hehe

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by wiak

the first blu-ray movies was a train whreck, hehe they used crappy master transfers and mpeg2 as codec lol

blu-ray is also more DRM infected than HD DVD
BD got BD+, Region Code and AACS
HD DVD only have AACS

after the specs yes Blu-Ray 2.0 is HD DVD 1.0, sony was late hehe

yea true but that doesnt matter now. sony played their cards right.

[spacejunky]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

yea true but that doesnt matter now. sony played their cards right.

You mean Sony paid off everyone. (They offered $500MM to Warner Bros). This sounds a lot like what Intel has been doing with their joint advertising rebates to OEMs that are exclusive to Intel. Well if AMD can't get a lawsuit to stick then I doubt Microsoft and Toshiba can either.

This type of approach does not allow the consumer to decide but rather $ony decides for you. I can't wait to watch Sony jack the prices on the discs and the players so that when you go to rent from Blockbusted or Netflix, you will have to pay an HD fee if you want BR discs.

[KieranD]

Its not like Microsoft invented HD DVD it just supports it. Sony actually developed Blu Ray!

I dont really care about HD format Disks really they dont effect me at all, i dont have a hd tv tey dont have games on them, i can buy a new hard drive for storage and it costs a lot.

Its like they are forcing you to buy a PS3 and have Blu Ray.

I mean look at their other products pretty much no one wants them i mean they have quality tvs but at that price you could think about getting a decent projector, they really only have decent mobile phones now and thats because they go for a feature packed low price mobile.

Onto Blu Ray how does it support 2.0? what was it just a system update? Was it always 2.0? I dunno if it has always been 2.0 then why is it news.


Onto Sony PS3 owners get to fuck no one else except you give a fuck about the HD format war, its not like Blu Ray has all the movies as exclusives. Most film companies just want to keep their options open by supporting both because its economical to do that.

IMO neither will really take off and it will be digital downloads that rule the next era, no one really needs that much space for a movie so i guess when disks get bigger they will just be used for storage.


BTW more and more rental stores have been closing down and i think that its because its just better sense to buy the movie and watch it as many times as you like rather than pay half the price of owning the movie.
Theres about 1 rental shop near me and its pfft in the town miles away. No one wants to rent a dvd and half to go to town to take it back, its a fucking trek on the bus mate.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLU RAY WHAT soon as one format becomes the standerd dvds will be so cheap i will be able to buy 4 for the price of a blu ray or hd dvd, OH by the way theres hardly any Blu Ray in Glasgow so dont give me shit about it being everywhere.