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Old Jan 18, 2008, 04:41 PM   #51
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um... well im at work now so i cant look... but i think its the 245B

yeah its the SM-245B (just looked at overclockers where i bought it)
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Old Jan 18, 2008, 04:45 PM   #52
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um... well im at work now so i cant look... but i think its the 245B

yeah its the SM-245B (just looked at overclockers where i bought it)
ahh very cool, I have the 245bw and I love that monitor, the contrast is amazing and I have had great luck gaming with it. Samsung does make a great monitor
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Old Jan 18, 2008, 07:20 PM   #53
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The hell kind of design do they call that? I'm apauled by that PCB.
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The hell kind of design do they call that? I'm apauled by that PCB.
I agree! **rubbing hands anxiously**
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Old Jan 18, 2008, 07:33 PM   #55
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I'm serious, its a terrible PCB design, they should be shot for that.
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Old Jan 19, 2008, 07:42 AM   #56
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I'm serious, its a terrible PCB design, they should be shot for that.
You think every pcb is terrible. I'd like to see what you come up for this.
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You think every pcb is terrible. I'd like to see what you come up for this.
Honestly...

Probably a better design but that costs quite a bit more.... Not to the company mind you but once it gets to us of course it will be an extra $100...
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You think every pcb is terrible. I'd like to see what you come up for this.
I know it's possible for them to do, but I do not know what production costs would come to, but if they in-fact would make both cores on one die (I thought I read that was their plan back in Sept-Oct 2007), keeping the PCB length around 9", 1GB of GDDR4 @ High speed, and one 6pin PCIe plug (maybe 2 if they can't get complete stability or OC-ability).

That's where I believe this card should've headed, it's only a matter of time before one of the two big graphics card compainies does such a thing. And with their newer process, lower power-consumption chips, 2 of them on one die can be cooled fairly easily with cooling solutions they had to use to cool their previous generation furnaces. Take and improve the cooling technology a bit, add a couple extra heat-pipes (with wick technology), a seperate VRM and Mem heatspreader (like my XTX and some newer vid cards implement, HIS ICEQ3's,etc.)

I know it may not sound too realistic right now...but I honestly assumed that instead of seeing 2-GPU's on a single PCB or 2 PCB's sandwiched that we'd actually have a dual-core one-die GPU solution. I'm sure soon enough!

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I know it's possible for them to do, but I do not know what production costs would come to, but if they in-fact would make both cores on one die (I thought I read that was their plan back in Sept-Oct 2007), keeping the PCB length around 9", 1GB of GDDR4 @ High speed, and one 6pin PCIe plug (maybe 2 if they can't get complete stability or OC-ability).

That's where I believe this card should've headed, it's only a matter of time before one of the two big graphics card compainies does such a thing. And with their newer process, lower power-consumption chips, 2 of them on one die can be cooled fairly easily with cooling solutions they had to use to cool their previous generation furnaces. Take and improve the cooling technology a bit, add a couple extra heat-pipes (with wick technology), a seperate VRM and Mem heatspreader (like my XTX and some newer vid cards implement, HIS ICEQ3's,etc.)

I know it may not sound too realistic right now...but I honestly assumed that instead of seeing 2-GPU's on a single PCB or 2 PCB's sandwiched that we'd actually have a dual-core one-die GPU solution. I'm sure soon enough!

I believe it as well. Gpus are more or less progressing just like cpus, in that manner. I wouldn't be surprised to see a dual core gpu next year at this time. My comment wasn't aimed at gpu development, but at actual pcb design and layout. I think the layout is fine. It could be a lot worse, like nVidia using 2 pcbs on one card ala 7950GX2
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i think the nvidia design is just lazy and stupid,the did it once and it flopped,so whats the differance now.Same design,differant gpu.
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