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Old Jan 28, 2008, 03:38 AM   #101
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Umm thought this post meaning PC PC wise.

I had all so some Hand controllers about 1975 then moved on to the ZX80 ZX48k Zx128 allso the cheaper version when they got bought out by Amstrad if i remember right. Then on too PC from there on.
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 03:45 AM   #102
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Really I thought all E4x00 do almost 3GHz?
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Really I thought all E4x00 do almost 3GHz?
they both did 3GHz, but on a thermalright ultra 120 extreme, they did at around 70C at stock voltage.

Compared to every other E6x00/Q6600 i've done which gets 60-65C at those clocks on the stock cooler, and they just sucked.
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they both did 3GHz, but on a thermalright ultra 120 extreme, they did at around 70C at stock voltage.

Compared to every other E6x00/Q6600 i've done which gets 60-65C at those clocks on the stock cooler, and they just sucked.
Yeah, I'm not a believer in E4x00 temps any more, they are just reported wrong. I'll take what speedfan reports (which is 15C less and on bar with E6000 series) and be happy Seeing what temps people get out of E8000 series (4C idle), it's not hard to believe they lie

I'm now Orthos stressing and get 55C load on cores with speedfan and 70C with coretemp. 1.3625V on bios, but droops to 1.272V cpu-z voltage on load (yes, I should make the pencil vdroop mod). Both CPU and Ultima lapped, so 70C just isn't realistic.

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Yeah, I'm not a believer in E4x00 temps any more, they are just reported wrong. I'll take what speedfan reports (which is 15C less and on bar with E6000 series) and be happy Seeing what temps people get out of E8000 series (4C idle), it's not hard to believe they lie

I'm now Orthos stressing and get 55C load on cores with speedfan and 70C with coretemp. 1.3625V on bios, but droops to 1.272V cpu-z voltage on load (yes, I should make the pencil vdroop mod). Both CPU and Ultima lapped, so 70C just isn't realistic.
i have an infrared thermometer, when coretemp says 70C and the thermo says 62C on the base of the cooler, i beleive it.

If they differed by 20C or more, i'd beleive it was off - both the ones i had just ran damned hot - and they were unstable at coretemps 75C.
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here we go in order of CPU age not in order ive owned them, would raise to many questions lol

intel 286 |Sold|
intel 486 DX4 100 |Dead|
Intel Pentium 133 |Dead|
Intel Pentium 166 |Vanished|
Intel Pentium MMX 233
Intel Pentium 2 300 |Dead|
Intel Celeron 300A |Sold|
Intel Pentium 2 450 |Sold|
AMD K6-2 450 |Dead|
Intel Pentium 3 500 |Dead|
Intel Pentium 3 600 |Dead|
Intel Pentium 3 650 |Sold|
VIA C7 667 |Sold|
Intel Pentium 3 866 |Dead|
AMD Duron 900 |Sold|
Intel Pentium 3 933 |Dead|
Intel Pentium 3 1000 |Sold|
AMD Athlon 1000 |Dead|
AMD Athlon 1400B |Dead|
AMD Athlon XP 1600 |Sold|
AMD Athlon XP 1700 |Sold|
AMD Athlon XP 1800 |Sold|
AMD Athlon XP 1900 |Dead|
AMD Sempron 2200 |Sold|
AMD Athlon XP 2600 |Sold|
AMD Sempron 3000 SktA |Sold|
AMD Sempron 2800 skt 754 |Sold|
AMD Athlon 64 3000 |In Use|
AMD Athlon 64 3200 |Dead|
Intel PentiumD 820 |Sold|
AMD Athlon X2 3800 |In Use|
Intel Core2 Quad 6600 |In Use|

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i have an infrared thermometer, when coretemp says 70C and the thermo says 62C on the base of the cooler, i beleive it.

If they differed by 20C or more, i'd beleive it was off - both the ones i had just ran damned hot - and they were unstable at coretemps 75C.
Oh nice, I though about getting an infrared thermo just to know for sure, but didn't think it was worth the money for a "one time" use Mine ran stable over 80C TAT/coretemp before I lapped the IHS and was using Zalman 9500.

Once I get this Vdroop mod done, I'll try and OC higher to see what temps do. Takes time, penciled 2 times already and got just 0.008V more on load both times, so I'm up to 1.272->1.288V, need to get to 1.336

EDIT: WOW, what a sweet mod. Now I showed some daddylove to that pencil and 1.344V rock solid both idle and load! (1.3625 in bios, so I should be able to do 3GHz on stock voltage )

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hte infra thermo is better than you may realise, you can get accurate ambient readings and measure everything - case temps (yes metal cases get hot) PSU temps, heatpipes vs. heatsink temps, memory chips, PCB temps, VRM/HSI... you name it, you can measure it. Its helped me trouble shoot a LOT of things.
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yea the case can get hot, mine gets hot enough to warm my feet after a few hours of fragging thanks to its postion under my desk for lack of room on the desk,
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I don't wanna get into a long listing, but psh, I had a DIGITAL system that my dad had at home for work from work (Digital). look up just the video cards to a Digital and you'll see SIZE.
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I don't wanna get into a long listing, but psh, I had a DIGITAL system that my dad had at home for work from work (Digital). look up just the video cards to a Digital and you'll see SIZE.
i have no idea what you're talking about here... digital what? 'look up just the video cards to a digital' - what does that mean?
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 07:24 AM   #113
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i have no idea what you're talking about here... digital what? 'look up just the video cards to a digital' - what does that mean?
Digital Equpment Corporation. One of the first companies to release a 64-bit CPU.

My brother-in-law had one of those.. But back then I was only interested in games, so I didn't bother to look it up.

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hte infra thermo is better than you may realise, you can get accurate ambient readings and measure everything - case temps (yes metal cases get hot) PSU temps, heatpipes vs. heatsink temps, memory chips, PCB temps, VRM/HSI... you name it, you can measure it. Its helped me trouble shoot a LOT of things.
Yes, didn't mean it wouldn't have use if I was to buy, I know I would be pointing it everywhere As promised, I tried to go higher, but 3,3GHz was only stable 7min with 1.4V (in CPU-Z) so I gave up trying, but didn't see that much higher temps.

What I got was current OC stable with 0.025v less in bios, temps seem the same. Don't know if you can call it 3GHz @ stock voltage, when I have set more on bios, but it's under it in idle/load. I'll stop "off topic" now
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Yes, didn't mean it wouldn't have use if I was to buy, I know I would be pointing it everywhere As promised, I tried to go higher, but 3,3GHz was only stable 7min with 1.4V (in CPU-Z) so I gave up trying, but didn't see that much higher temps.

What I got was current OC stable with 0.025v less in bios, temps seem the same. Don't know if you can call it 3GHz @ stock voltage, when I have set more on bios, but it's under it in idle/load. I'll stop "off topic" now
stock voltage means leaving it on auto in the bios.
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Yes, didn't mean it wouldn't have use if I was to buy, I know I would be pointing it everywhere As promised, I tried to go higher, but 3,3GHz was only stable 7min with 1.4V (in CPU-Z) so I gave up trying, but didn't see that much higher temps.

What I got was current OC stable with 0.025v less in bios, temps seem the same. Don't know if you can call it 3GHz @ stock voltage, when I have set more on bios, but it's under it in idle/load. I'll stop "off topic" now
stock voltage means leaving it on auto in the bios.

Every Q6600 i've used did 3GHz on stock volts stable, and i get 3.6GHz from 1.425 - quite a difference compared to the E4x00 isnt it.
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stock voltage means leaving it on auto in the bios.

Every Q6600 i've used did 3GHz on stock volts stable, and i get 3.6GHz from 1.425 - quite a difference compared to the E4x00 isnt it.
Yes, not stock voltage then, as it drops to 1.304-1.312v and is not stable with that

Difference is big, but so are the components amount on the bottom side, they must count for something If id finally get my new GPU soon, have to think about upgrading processor after that. E8000 series are finally upgrade worthy, as E8400 is the same 3GHz stock as my OC, but with triple the cache. Not in a hurry though =)

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Yes, not stock voltage then, as it drops to 1.304-1.312v and is not stable with that

Difference is big, but so are the components amount on the bottom side, they must count for something If id finally get my new GPU soon, have to thing about upgrading processor after that. E8000 series are finally upgrade worthy, as E8400 is the same 3GHz stock as my OC, but with triple the cache. Not in a hurry though =)
E8x00 series are great, because they need less volts your vdroop problem wont be as severe either. Surprised no one has come in this thred posting with one yet

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My brother-in-law had one of those.. But back then I was only interested in games, so I didn't bother to look it up.

I think I still have a fresh sticker from them somewhere..
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