HIS Radeon HD 3870 X2 1 GB

W1zzard · Jan 25, 2008, 09:57 AM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_3870_X2/

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2008, 05:32 AM

pretty nice review, costs way less than the Single GPUs at that, plus performs higher than the other boards, Crysis and Supreme Commander are washout games anyway.

ShinyG · Jan 28, 2008, 05:38 AM

Much better reviews than the other 3870x2 reviews I've seen on the internet! Good job!

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2008, 05:42 AM

you mean these 2 reviews?

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...3870-x2-review

http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...70X2-1-GB.html

DaMulta · Jan 28, 2008, 05:48 AM

Nice review, and I'm very surprised about the lack of PCI-E 2.0.

Would you be able to use 2 maze4 GPU water blocks on this card?

Jelle Mees · Jan 28, 2008, 05:50 AM

Very, very nice review!

Only one thing missing, the 8800 Ultra. I think that a lot of people want to know how fast this one is compared to the "old" fastest card available.

It costs 590$ in my country, that's to bad...

sneekypeet · Jan 28, 2008, 05:52 AM

I dont think so DM look at my thread and look at the naked pic of W1zzards. The spacing of the holes is farther from the core on mine than his....mine will obviously use the maze4.

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DaMulta · Jan 28, 2008, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

I dont think so DM look at my thread and look at the naked pic of W1zzards. The spacing of the holes is farther from the core on mine than his....mine will obviously use the maze4.

The block looks like it would hit the bridge chip, and some of the memory. I guess that it wouldn't be long till there is some full coverage blocks out.

tkpenalty · Jan 28, 2008, 06:08 AM

The performance of the card is just.... wow. Well the noise issue can be easily fixed by purchasing two VF900CUs

or something like that. The card runs cool doesnt it? Its just the bad choice for the fan thats the problem. W1zzard, the reason why the second core runs warmer is due to the hot air from the first core. The air that gets to the second core can be considered as exhuast. Thats the reason why one runs warmer, its not because of how the drivers are written.

btarunr · Jan 28, 2008, 06:25 AM

Rice review but 8/10

Also the card being PCI-E 1.1 is a revelation. But didn't some rumored articles on TomsHardware predict massive differences between using this on PCI-E 1.1 and 2.0 slots? I could have put up the link but Tomshardware removed the article.

Finally, the fastest video-card is an ATI. After say a huge time gap? But for how long?

Jelle Mees · Jan 28, 2008, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Rice review but 8/10

8 is fair. It uses a lot of power and it's very noisy. Not to mention that the driver support for this card will be terrible in the first weeks/months.

8/10 is the correct score.

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2008, 07:01 AM

ya i guess a 5/10 is average.

DrunkenMafia · Jan 28, 2008, 07:34 AM

great review, its a shame it sux in crysis though as that is the game a lot of people compare to these days, I love the power of it in almost all of the other games / Bench apps though..

I hope that ATI can make the drivers for this card really work. Their other twin gpu cards have not been all that great so it would be nice to see this thing really rock out... And 2 of em in crossfire!!!!! now that is what I wanna see.

As always your reviews are by far the best on the net imo....

BTW W1zz, what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good.

btarunr · Jan 28, 2008, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkenMafia

what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good.

The price of this card hasn't been decided/put-up yet. I guess W1zzard will put up those charts such as performance / dollar when definitively we know its price at least in the US markets. But still I wonder why Performance/Watt chart hasn't been put up.

Judas · Jan 28, 2008, 07:54 AM

Overall a very fairly good product "well done AMD/ATI " power consumption is not too bad if you think its running two core's. As for Crysis well what card runs well with it? it does fairly well for first drivers. Crysis is not a game its a benchmark for newer cards

Mussels · Jan 28, 2008, 08:30 AM

finally a review of the x2 from someone i can trust!

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2008, 08:55 AM

That game just plain sucks, what were they thinking when they released that game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkenMafia

great review, its a shame it sux in crysis though as that is the game a lot of people compare to these days, I love the power of it in almost all of the other games / Bench apps though..

I hope that ATI can make the drivers for this card really work. Their other twin gpu cards have not been all that great so it would be nice to see this thing really rock out... And 2 of em in crossfire!!!!! now that is what I wanna see.

As always your reviews are by far the best on the net imo....

BTW W1zz, what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good.

Mussels · Jan 28, 2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

That game just plain sucks, what were they thinking when they released that game.

i liked the game - that said, i had to run it on medium graphics with a system wel beyond the reccomended specs. If the performance patch comes out, people will see it as the game was intended and it will be a very different game. Without the graphics, crysis really does lose its best aspect.

Lazzer408 · Jan 28, 2008, 09:13 AM

Isn't that CPU bottlenecking these benchmarks? Any of the games that are cpu dependant (like Crysis) will get poor results and not reflect what the card is capable of.

Mussels · Jan 28, 2008, 09:17 AM

he makes a good point: wizzard, would you be willing to re-test with a faster, or overclocked CPU? preferably around 3GHz? (thats about the highest stock core 2 in the average consumers price range)

Even if you just choose 2-3 benchmarks and do tests at 3GHz and say, 3.4 or 3.6Ghz that would really be appreciated.

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2008, 09:36 AM

Well with what you just said that proves the point the game sucks. Also the point the card does well in a wide range of games is good in my book with the specs he tested with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mussels

i liked the game - that said, i had to run it on medium graphics with a system wel beyond the reccomended specs. If the performance patch comes out, people will see it as the game was intended and it will be a very different game. Without the graphics, crysis really does lose its best aspect.

Mussels · Jan 28, 2008, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Well with what you just said that proves the point the game sucks. Also the point the card does well in a wide range of games is good in my book with the specs he tested with.

Some games have more CPU needs than others. 2.2Ghz is quite low by TPU's standards, with with a dual GPU card it would be nice to see if the CPU is limiting it.

You're just a crysis hater, so i'm not talking about that anymore. You're ignoring my comments about the patch/performance needed as if thats killed it, when it hasnt - the patch isnt even out yet.

Live OR Die · Jan 28, 2008, 09:44 AM

Not a bad card looks like it likes DX9 better though

eidairaman1 · Jan 28, 2008, 09:45 AM

ya that performance patch sounds like what Microsoft Promises with Service Pack 3 for XP
(a performance boost)

Mussels · Jan 28, 2008, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

ya that performance patch sounds like what Microsoft Promises with Service Pack 3 for XP
(a performance boost)

hey i'm quite optimistic about XP3's service pack

Jan 25, 2008, 09:57 AM	#1
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,792 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,291 Times in 3,175 Posts System Specs	HIS Radeon HD 3870 X2 1 GB To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_3870_X2/ Last edited by W1zzard; Jan 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM.

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Jan 28, 2008, 05:38 AM	#3
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Jan 28, 2008, 05:32 AM	#2
eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,079 (4.68/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	pretty nice review, costs way less than the Single GPUs at that, plus performs higher than the other boards, Crysis and Supreme Commander are washout games anyway.

Jan 28, 2008, 05:42 AM	#4
eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,079 (4.68/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	you mean these 2 reviews? http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...3870-x2-review http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Grap...70X2-1-GB.html

Jan 28, 2008, 05:48 AM	#5
DaMulta My stars went supernova Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma T-Town Posts: 10,337 (4.16/day) Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 1,477 Times in 1,113 Posts System Specs	Nice review, and I'm very surprised about the lack of PCI-E 2.0. Would you be able to use 2 maze4 GPU water blocks on this card? __________________ ocLIT The Hardware Punishers

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Jan 28, 2008, 05:50 AM	#6
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Jan 28, 2008, 06:08 AM	#9
tkpenalty Eligible for custom title Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia, Sydney Posts: 5,023 (2.06/day) Thanks: 412 Thanked 361 Times in 266 Posts System Specs	The performance of the card is just.... wow. Well the noise issue can be easily fixed by purchasing two VF900CUs or something like that. The card runs cool doesnt it? Its just the bad choice for the fan thats the problem. W1zzard, the reason why the second core runs warmer is due to the hot air from the first core. The air that gets to the second core can be considered as exhuast. Thats the reason why one runs warmer, its not because of how the drivers are written. __________________ AMD Radeon X1950~HD4000 Support Clubhouse “Mac: "Woah, what are you doing?" Mac says as he levitates in the air. PC: "Playing Half-Life 2, this is my gravity gun." Mac: "Well I can sort of do that." PC: "Technically Mac, you have to become me first."” -From_Nowhere

Jan 28, 2008, 06:25 AM	#10
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Jan 28, 2008, 07:34 AM	#13
DrunkenMafia Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cairns QLD, Aussie Posts: 1,868 (0.80/day) Thanks: 230 Thanked 239 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	great review, its a shame it sux in crysis though as that is the game a lot of people compare to these days, I love the power of it in almost all of the other games / Bench apps though.. I hope that ATI can make the drivers for this card really work. Their other twin gpu cards have not been all that great so it would be nice to see this thing really rock out... And 2 of em in crossfire!!!!! now that is what I wanna see. As always your reviews are by far the best on the net imo.... BTW W1zz, what happened to all the other graphs you have previously shown of late... value for money etc... ???? they were good. __________________

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Jan 28, 2008, 07:54 AM	#15
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Jan 28, 2008, 09:13 AM	#19
Lazzer408 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,394 (1.03/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 320 Times in 242 Posts System Specs	Isn't that CPU bottlenecking these benchmarks? Any of the games that are cpu dependant (like Crysis) will get poor results and not reflect what the card is capable of. __________________ Assuming the many universes theory of quantum mechanics is accurate, everything I say will remain relevant in another reality for all of eternity. Heatware - http://www.heatware.com/user_directo...uery=lazzer408

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Jan 28, 2008, 09:17 AM	#20
Mussels Doctor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA) Posts: 34,561 (10.96/day) Thanks: 3,700 Thanked 8,696 Times in 6,393 Posts System Specs	he makes a good point: wizzard, would you be willing to re-test with a faster, or overclocked CPU? preferably around 3GHz? (thats about the highest stock core 2 in the average consumers price range) Even if you just choose 2-3 benchmarks and do tests at 3GHz and say, 3.4 or 3.6Ghz that would really be appreciated. __________________ Edumacational thread about PC Audio My external HDD's.5x samsung 1TB + 2x Seagate 1.5TB = 8 TB external storage 32 Bit OS vs 64 bit OS information How to get hardware accelerated H264 playback (DXVA) Netbook Owners United!

Jan 28, 2008, 09:44 AM	#23
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Jan 28, 2008, 09:45 AM	#24
eidairaman1 Eligible for custom title Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HTX Posts: 10,079 (4.68/day) Thanks: 1,359 Thanked 1,159 Times in 1,035 Posts System Specs	ya that performance patch sounds like what Microsoft Promises with Service Pack 3 for XP (a performance boost)

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