What's wrong with our forum moderator staff?

[strick94u]

Again I think it’s irresponsible to close a thread because it offends a member that really had nothing to do with it. Perhaps This sounds like bitterness but that thread was used to talk about the bad police in our towns and it was an ex policeman that did not like it big deal I say, none of us were talking about him or his town but his coming in and arguing with me was a great way to censor the thread which is closed, and not a single one of the Mods could give me a reason why the argument was not removed and the active thread left alone. This is censorship in its highest form. I came to this forum from Tom’s hardware’s forum which is not real active, I like this place but certain things are overlooked and how focused things are for certain other members. Now I know that last statement will draw criticism from the people that are in question yet it keeps coming up in this thread if you don't want to change it why did you make this thread. I am a 47 year old Educator and have tried to keep the bad parts of the arguments from the threads I have never posted a pm in public that is why they are pm's but I have noticed they are actively read by the Mods and allowed to be posted by the members which is reason to be banned in most other forums but it’s ok in this one. Why is that?
You cannot have a public forum without pissing a few people off and yes I know and I am damn glad I am not a moderator and would never want to be one I feel bad about how you guys are treated, but in the same breath use your brains read the post don't believe everything you are told make educated decisions based on facts, stay out of the pm's that why their privet if someone has a problem with what their getting in there they should not open them, and hit ignore for the sake of everyone here don't shutdown good threads without a few warnings unless they are made with total disregards for the forum rules. And for the members stop sending pm's to the Mods if they are not about rule violations and even then keep them in that form” not such and such called me a boo boo head here read this pm they sent me, grow up the rules work whining just breeds trigger happy Mods. Just hit the ignore button, if you don't it means you like the argument and attention. This is a great forum, and these few problems are not that many. You know many other forums would never be able to make a thread like this one so kudos for doing just that giving us a voice. My simple little problem is not enough to drive me away but since you asked………

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by Craigleberry

I should have gotten a pm warning me first not just a straight out 5pt's from what he has posted it should have been 0pt's.

Where do you base this on? The whole "should have" part that is. Is this some rule that I do not know about?

[Thermopylae_480]

It was an idea I posted a few months ago, it isn't in the forum guidelines or anything. It was just a thought we discussed in this thread. Nothing ever came of it, but people like to dig it up on occasion, and treat it like policy.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by Thermopylae_480

It was an idea I posted a few months ago, it isn't in the forum guidelines or anything. It was just a thought we discussed in this thread. Nothing ever came of it, but people like to dig it up on occasion, and treat it like policy.

Thats not fair at all seeing as after you brought it up i do bealive it came up a couple times in the mod lounge and though it was never a guide line a few mods used this method some of the members are used to this kind of approach its also more polite.

[Thermopylae_480]

Fair enough. If you're going to haul off insulting someone though; you know what you're doing is wrong, and depending on the situation you may end up with more than a PM. I don't recall anyone ever making it concrete though.

[Solaris17]

now that i can agree with insulting someone would get an infraction immediately...now language or flaming may result in a PM asking you to edit it...insults are known not to be tolerated.

[Thermopylae_480]

That is exactly what happened in this case.

[3991vhtes]

Well, I take back everything. I looked like a fool, so I apalogize to everyone for making my self look like a doofus.

[Solaris17]

than to all let it be known that an infraction was completely justified.

[Fitseries3]

i agree, language shouldn't be a big deal. most people can respectfully use bad language to display elevated levels of emotion. there is no need for language to be used against someone. that's really uncalled for.

example: this damn computer is pissing me off. <---- should be OK(not ideal)
you are pissing me off. <----- not tolerated.

language should be judged based on context.

[3991vhtes]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

than to all let it be known that an infraction was completely justified.

yup.

[imperialreign]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

than to all let it be known that an infraction was completely justified.

TBH, though, the members that don't have a history of throwing insults or resorting to demeaning statements I think she be given a PM warning first before an infraction. Sure, for some of us members who slip up occasionally and feed-the-fire, a 5pt infraction is fine; but some other users like Craigleberrry who rarely cause any problems or toss insults, a PM would've been alright and have that post deleted or edited by a mod.

(not trying to cause an issue Thermo_ just throwing out a different opinion)

Granted, that dog thread got far out of hand, and Cb wasn't the only member out of line - TBH, I was starting to get rather irritated with it myself

[grunt_408]

Thats what I am trying to say... I never got warned.
And what about the fact that the "other party" insulted me first causing me to post in the manner I did?

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Craigleberry

Thats what I am trying to say... I never got warned.
And what about the fact that the "other party" insulted me first causing me to post in the manner I did?

thats when you report it to a mod instead of retaliating. If you dotn say anything wrong, you dont get the blame.

the infraction IS the warning. thats why it takes more than one to get a temp ban!

[grunt_408]

I am over it now. I am not one that sets out to offend people that is all. Still comming to terms with the fact I even posted it. But he could have just warned me without the infraction and edited my post.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Craigleberry

I am over it now. I am not one that sets out to offend people that is all. Still comming to terms with the fact I even posted it. But he could have just warned me without the infraction and edited my post.

yeah he could have. he could also have permabanned you. in the end, he gave you a minor punishment and its had the right effect - you disliked it, so you are less likely to do anything like it again.

you werent banned, nothing serious happened - you had an effective warning.

[Steevo]

I can has infractions before. No big deal, a little slap to keep us in line. Just remember, slapping anything below the belt costs $20.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Originally Posted by Mussels

in the end, he gave you a minor punishment

That's what I don't get, how is it a punishment? There are no consequences until 15 points, s I'd say it's called a warning. ie "you're 33% towards punishment".

[cooler]

first of all their nothing wrong with this forum.


but i like to see this
i think you guy should make a list member being banned, the reason he/she been banned who banned him/her

here some example
(this week list member being banned)
xxxxx by yyyyy reason xxxxxxx


this well help us to understand more.and learn from mistake
human make mistake.maybe from user or moderator

[Basard]

This is the first time I've even looked at this thread. I see people with thousands of posts, that have been banned. Knowing why people were banned would help a little bit. I guess.

I have no clue how a moderator gets appointed. Maybe they should be voted in? Maybe they are voted in, and I don't even know it. But that would be kinda cool, and fun. November 7th (or is it 8th?), vote BASARD!! <--yeah, right...

[Thermopylae_480]

Originally Posted by cooler

first of all their nothing wrong with this forum.


but i like to see this
i think you guy should make a list member being banned, the reason he/she been banned who banned him/her

here some example
(this week list member being banned)
xxxxx by yyyyy reason xxxxxxx


this well help us to understand more.and learn from mistake
human make mistake.maybe from user or moderator

That is between us and the person banned, and honestly isn't really anyone else's business. Telling everyone causes to much drama and argument.

If you want to know ways not to get banned, follow the forum guidelines located at the top of each forum section.

Generally, if you follow those, and heed your conscience you're not going to have any issues.

[Polaris573]

Originally Posted by cooler

a list member being banned, the reason he/she been banned who banned him/her

here some example
(this week list member being banned)
xxxxx by yyyyy reason xxxxxxx


this well help us to understand more.and learn from mistake
human make mistake.maybe from user or moderator

This isn't GossipPowerup. Banning is between the staff and the person banned. Contrary to popular belief I have never seen anyone be banned that did not deserve it, the moderators would not allow that. Believe it or not we are often your allies. A lot of the reported posts we get say something like, "OMG Look what he did ban that mofo!" Most of the time we just give the offender an infraction instead of doing what was suggested. So, in reality, if we left who gets banned up to the non-fascist members instead of the fascist moderators we would have a lot more bannings.

Electing moderators every few months would be a terrible idea for you people that think moderation is already inconsistent. Can you imagine the anarchy if you had random people with completely different personalities moderating every few months.

For those of you really concerned about being banned just do/don't do the things in The Forum Guidelines and you're safe. It really is that simple.

[Hawk1]

Originally Posted by Thermopylae_480

That is between us and the person banned, and honestly isn't really anyone else's business. Telling everyone causes to much drama and argument.

If you want to know ways not to get banned, follow the forum guidelines located at the top of each forum section.

Agreed. But then you always get the guys that start threads saying "hey, soandso got banned" and either ask why or start saying it was because of this and that.

You cant please everyone, and I agree, it should remain a private issue between the person and the Mod(s).

[Thermopylae_480]

Those threads, as a matter of generally accepted policy, get closed.

[Tatty_One]

Originally Posted by Thermopylae_480

That is between us and the person banned, and honestly isn't really anyone else's business. Telling everyone causes to much drama and argument.

If you want to know ways not to get banned, follow the forum guidelines located at the top of each forum section.

Generally, if you follow those, and heed your conscience you're not going to have any issues.

Yeah I have to agree with that, many people banned would not want the whole community knowing about it, especially if things got pretty nasty, on top of that, there maybe other members involved on either side of an argument and a banned list may just act as provocation with them.

Where I think there may be some value is where a member is marked as "banned", there is an indication of how long, or maybe only use the term "banned" below their user name if they are perminently banned and if it's just for a period as punishment is says "Temp Banned" or something, that way friends of the banned member at least know they will have the opportunity of coming back to the forums.