Epic Games' Mark Rein Confirms Gamers Moving Away from PC in Favor of Console

zekrahminator · Feb 7, 2008, 10:06 PM

Epic Games is well known throughout the gaming community. Most well known for their Unreal Tournament series and the Unreal engine series, Epic Games has every reason to be at the peak of their game for the PC gaming crowd. However, they are beginning to doubt their fan base. While Gears of War for the Xbox360 was an instant success for the Xbox360, the PC version of Unreal Tournament failed to take off. In an interview, Mark Rein confirms that gaming itself has begun to move away from the PC, and towards consoles. Even inside Epic Games, a sizable chunk of employees play their games on the Xbox360. Outside Epic Games, a paltry 14% of gamers game on their computer. The reason for this, despite the superior technology the PC offers, is the sheer cost of owning and maintaining a gaming habit on the PC. While an Xbox360 is $400USD including games and extra controllers, a PC is upwards of $1000USD for a game-worthy setup, not including games, and only supporting one player at a time.

Source: DailyTech

EastCoasthandle · Feb 7, 2008, 10:09 PM

So what was that about games on the PC being "fine"?

Darknova · Feb 7, 2008, 10:13 PM

That and the pure ignorance of the populace.

They want something that "just works".

Unfortunately I truly believe we will see the death of PC gaming in our lifetimes, which will be a huge blow for everyone. Especially the economy as a whole.

Snipe343 · Feb 7, 2008, 10:13 PM

Lies!!!! even so computer gaming will never stop to exist, there will always be games for it some just wont be as popular as there console versions

CDdude55 · Feb 7, 2008, 10:14 PM

He's both right and wrong. And you dont need $1000 to buy a decent PC that plays today's games.

das müffin mann · Feb 7, 2008, 10:16 PM

even if it does die, im gunna try to keep it alive, mainly because i hate controllers compared to my keyboard and mouse

Nicksterr · Feb 7, 2008, 10:17 PM

screw consoles. havent played a console since ps2. only console i would even consider would be the wii.

You gotttttttttta be able to aim, and consoles suck for that.

Easy Rhino · Feb 7, 2008, 10:19 PM

not surprising in the least. most people have other things to worry about than upgrading their PC to play the latest games. people have lives and if they wanna game they get a console because it is easier, cheaper and friendlier.

CDdude55 · Feb 7, 2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

not surprising in the least. most people have other things to worry about than upgrading their PC to play the latest games. people have lives and if they wanna game they get a console because it is easier, cheaper and friendlier.

Good Point +1. But most peoples PC's own Consoles most of the time tho in terms of hardware. I just wish the PC had as many games as Consoles.

hv43082 · Feb 7, 2008, 10:22 PM

Let's face it, PC is only good for FPS and MMORPG (may be). Everything else can be played with controllers. Hell, if they can integrate mouse and keyboard into all console games, I'd switch side.

Easy Rhino · Feb 7, 2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDdude55

Good point.

lets face it. being a tech geek like we all are takes time and work and costs a good amount to be an enthusiast. sure you dont need to pay a lot of money to play top games at decent settings but then what is the point of spending $1000 if you arent getting the best?

DaMulta · Feb 7, 2008, 10:25 PM

So, those millions of cards that nVidia, and Ati sell are not for gaming?

They just like making games for consoles, no patches to make, no high-detail to keep up with PC gamers. Plus I guess people don't just copy 360,ps3 games as much as PC. If people would only buy their PC games..........

They need to RENT PC GAMES!!!!

hv43082 · Feb 7, 2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMulta

So, those millions of cards that nVidia, and Ati sell are not for gaming?

They just like making games for consoles, no patches to make, no high-detail to keep up with PC gamers. Plus I guess people don't just copy 360,ps3 games as much as PC. If people would only buy their PC games..........

They need to RENT PC GAMES!!!!

Hey, I buy my pc games....well...at least the ones that require cd key for online gaming, LOL.

happita · Feb 7, 2008, 10:37 PM

Having a PC is a totally different experience vs. owning a console. In my mindset at least, I think of the consoles main purpose is to give entertainment to the user in the form of playing video games (99% of the time). But owning a PC is like an all-in-one deal. People look at it in terms of being able to provide an environment in which the consumer is comfortable in doing whatever he/she wants to do on it, be it gaming, surfing the web, etc...

Cold Storm · Feb 7, 2008, 10:38 PM

The only reason why people are turning away from Unreal Tour. 3 is the fact that no one can play with no one! I still haven't got Unreal to hook up with their severs... So... what does that leave you!?!?
Fix your problems and maybe someone might want it!

tigger · Feb 7, 2008, 10:40 PM

So what would happen to forums like this then? we'd all be sat there staring at a huge tv screen instead of posting on here.

I'll never give up pc games.

The only console i'd buy is the wii.

Cold Storm · Feb 7, 2008, 10:44 PM

Oh I love my pc games! I'd play multi player games on my pc... console gaming is for yourself! like pron... lol

ktr · Feb 7, 2008, 10:49 PM

People are moving from PC to consoles because PC games system requirements are going higher and higher, and some people dont want to fork over 300 to 500 dollars in upgrades when these games come. What happened to the good old days where mid-range computers can play most of the games maxed out.

Psychoholic · Feb 7, 2008, 10:51 PM

imperialreign · Feb 7, 2008, 10:52 PM

PC gaming 4 life, man! Grew up in front of a PC, and I intend to keep it that way.

Console flat out suck compared to gaming on a PC - it's partly why there are only a handful of games that allow PC vs Console multiplayer, and even then, the field is leveled out (usually by limiting what a PC is allowed to work with). Shadowrun is a prime example. If the multiplayer wasn't leveled, there'd be no contest. Poorly skilled gamers on a PC would still have the upper hand over highly skilled gamers on a console.

I say cut the BS and release a hyped-up game that allows PCs to compete against consoles with no restrictions. We PC gamers need to give console users a schooling!!!

a111087 · Feb 7, 2008, 11:03 PM

PC gaming will never die, it might fall, but not to death.

das müffin mann · Feb 7, 2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychoholic

lol i remember this helpful graph

[I.R.A]_FBi · Feb 7, 2008, 11:09 PM

lazy game developers ...

ShadowFold · Feb 7, 2008, 11:10 PM

If PC gaming dies I will still stick with it, I hate controllers

CDdude55 · Feb 7, 2008, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktr

People are moving from PC to consoles because PC games system requirements are going higher and higher, and some people dont want to fork over 300 to 500 dollars in upgrades when these games come. What happened to the good old days where mid-range computers can play most of the games maxed out.

Another excellent point.

Feb 7, 2008, 10:06 PM	#1
zekrahminator McLovin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My house. Posts: 6,280 (2.35/day) Thanks: 105 Thanked 340 Times in 246 Posts System Specs	Epic Games' Mark Rein Confirms Gamers Moving Away from PC in Favor of Console Epic Games is well known throughout the gaming community. Most well known for their Unreal Tournament series and the Unreal engine series, Epic Games has every reason to be at the peak of their game for the PC gaming crowd. However, they are beginning to doubt their fan base. While Gears of War for the Xbox360 was an instant success for the Xbox360, the PC version of Unreal Tournament failed to take off. In an interview, Mark Rein confirms that gaming itself has begun to move away from the PC, and towards consoles. Even inside Epic Games, a sizable chunk of employees play their games on the Xbox360. Outside Epic Games, a paltry 14% of gamers game on their computer. The reason for this, despite the superior technology the PC offers, is the sheer cost of owning and maintaining a gaming habit on the PC. While an Xbox360 is $400USD including games and extra controllers, a PC is upwards of $1000USD for a game-worthy setup, not including games, and only supporting one player at a time. Source: DailyTech

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Hard Disk:	Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320 GB Perpendicular Recording
Optical Drive:	Lite On 16X SATA Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell 17'
Case:	El Cheepo
Sound Card:	7.1 Onboard
PSU:	Corsair TX750
Software:	MCE2K5