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Old Feb 21, 2008, 03:20 AM   #1
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Retailers Begin Dumping HD-DVD Stock

Retail stores around Japan apparently got the hint that Toshiba recently gave up the HD format war. As piles of outmoded equipment pile up, retailers are anxious to get rid of them. In some stores, HD-DVD recorders can be found at the same price as older DVD recorders. At this point, the real savings can only be found in places around Tokyo, where the original story was recorded. However, expect retailers around the whole world to begin seriously discounting HD-DVD equipment. After all, the industry has decided on Blu-ray.

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Old Feb 21, 2008, 03:29 AM   #2
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to bad it didnt catch on cause cant you play old DVDs in a HD DVD player? and blueray players are only blue ray right?
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Old Feb 21, 2008, 03:35 AM   #3
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Blue ray players play dvds some older players dont play cds tho.
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Old Feb 21, 2008, 03:47 AM   #4
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^^ okay cool i didnt know that
Blu-Ray also upscales.

ALSO, check this out:

The PS3 is ready for 2160p:

Reasoning:

-Some guy on here named 7 was saying that at some sony press conference somewhere hey said that PS3 could output at 4K resolution, or 2160p, or 4096x2160 pixels progressive scan.

-Hitachi (or one of those Asian companies) is releasing (or already relaesed?) a 100GB Blu-Ray disk. They said that a simple firmware update would allow a Blu-Ray player to see the 4 layers of a 100GB disk. 200GB 8 layer disks are being tested and presumably could be supported through a firmware update.

-I Believe a feature length 4K movie would fit on a 100GB or 200GB Blu-Ray disk.

-The CELL Broadband Engine would have no trouble decoding a 4K video feed. As in playing back a 4K MPEG-4 or VC1 file.

Anyways, this is good news for everyone, don't want consumers buying dead products.
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Blu-Ray also upscales.

ALSO, check this out:

The PS3 is ready for 2160p:

Reasoning:

-Some guy on here named 7 was saying that at some sony press conference somewhere hey said that PS3 could output at 4K resolution, or 2160p, or 4096x2160 pixels progressive scan.

-Hitachi (or one of those Asian companies) is releasing (or already relaesed?) a 100GB Blu-Ray disk. They said that a simple firmware update would allow a Blu-Ray player to see the 4 layers of a 100GB disk. 200GB 8 layer disks are being tested and presumably could be supported through a firmware update.

-I Believe a feature length 4K movie would fit on a 100GB or 200GB Blu-Ray disk.

-The CELL Broadband Engine would have no trouble decoding a 4K video feed. As in playing back a 4K MPEG-4 or VC1 file.

Anyways, this is good news for everyone, don't want consumers buying dead products.
Alot of that is a long way off Ravenas


Consumers will be buying these products since they are presumably dead and are then cheap to buy.

Personally I cant wait to start buyiing HD DVDs for $5. May as well make the best of my investment shouldnt I?
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Alot of that is a long way off Ravenas


Consumers will be buying these products since they are presumably dead and are then cheap to buy.

Personally I cant wait to start buyiing HD DVDs for $5. May as well make the best of my investment shouldnt I?
Not too far off, but it's certainly capable. Anyhow, at least you own a piece of technology's history.
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Not too far off, but it's certainly capable. Anyhow, at least you own a piece of technology's history.
Whether its capable and whether they will do it are 2 totally different things Ravenas.
Personally I dont think that were ready for another TV resolution because most peoples HDTVs still only output to 720p mostly.
Yes I do and I still stand by my investment
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Yes I do and I still stand by my investment
I'm actually considering getting one just for upscaling my old DVDs if they are cheap enough.
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I'm actually considering getting one just for upscaling my old DVDs if they are cheap enough.
Buy a $5 HD DVD while your at it!! That is one helluva investment right there
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Lol I just noticed you took off the Red > Blue.

Nah, I'll pass on the HD-DVDs, this will be primarily for watching DVDs in the hang out room.
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Lol I just noticed you took off the Red > Blue.

Nah, I'll pass on the HD-DVDs, this will be primarily for watching DVDs in the hang out room.
My sig for the HD DVD clubhouse is still there Ravenas. What are you talking about?
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Well maybe it's Dangle's that said Red>Blue, who knows...One of you HD-DVD guys.
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Well maybe it's Dangle's that said Red>Blue, who knows...One of you HD-DVD guys.
The sig I have right now is the Red> Blue me and dangles both have it. Or had it at least.
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The sig I have right now is the Red> Blue me and dangles both have it. Or had it at least.
That's what I'm saying, you had It, it's gone now. It's the look and sound of perfect.
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will hd dvd 5.25 drive prices fall also? i might get one if they do
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I'm actually considering getting one just for upscaling my old DVDs if they are cheap enough.
I had the exact same idea, not that they are going to get cheap here :/

EDIT: Well seems Toshiba HD-E1 is 150€/$220 here, is that cheap? It has been double the price, so not bad, but not anywhere near DVD player prices yet and upscaling DVD players are cheaper too.

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Blu-Ray also upscales.
Do they? Wasn't the whole point of HD-DVD DVD upscaling that Blu-Ray couldn't do? PS3 seems to do it from 1.8 firmware onwards, maybe the other players have evolved too.

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Buy a $5 HD DVD while your at it!! That is one helluva investment right there
$15 newly released HD-DVD movies are being sold at my local best buy, and open box players are going for $80. It's definately tempting me right now.
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wow its suprising how fast hd dvd is getting buried... you'd think that someone would object or try and keep hd dvd alive...
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wow its suprising how fast hd dvd is getting buried... you'd think that someone would object or try and keep hd dvd alive...
Toshiba did try. Right after the Warner announcement they started lowering prices, had a Super Bowl commercial, had a couple studios in Europ claim exclusive support of HD DVD, and a few other things here and there. but for every step Toshiba tried to take forward Blu ray would push them backanother 2 steps in defiance of letting them win this format war.
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Personally I cant wait to start buyiing HD DVDs for $5. May as well make the best of my investment shouldnt I?
I wouldn't call it an investment. What happens in 2 years when the player dies? Where are you going to get a new one? You are going to pay out of the ass for one, or just junk all of the now worthless discs.

Buying a technology when it is dying just because it is cheap isn't an investment.
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I wouldn't call it an investment. What happens in 2 years when the player dies? Where are you going to get a new one? You are going to pay out of the ass for one, or just junk all of the now worthless discs.

Buying a technology when it is dying just because it is cheap isn't an investment.
A better investment would be $5 for food or gas. Something I actually need.
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