Naturally Aspired PC WaterCooling Club

[DOM]

the DTek

[DaMulta]

Do nozzle kits really work?

[DOM]

yes

[DanishDevil]

One more question...maybe more later who knows :P

How much liquid will I need for my system? I want to give the Feser One UV Black coolant a try with my color scheme. They come in 1L bottles. I'm just gonna have the Fuzion, Swiftech Dual QP, MicroRes, and tubing. I'll buy more if need be for when I get a GPU/NB block.

PS: Here's my order. Hopefully I can grab it soon

(10) Tygon R3603 7/16in. ID 11/16in. OD Laboratory Tubing # AAC00034
$26.00

Feser One F1 Cooling Fluid - UV BLACK - 1 Liter
$18.95

Dtek FuZion Extreme Performance CPU Block
* Choose your fittings : x2 High Flow Dtek 1/2 ID fittings (Default)
* Add Dtek Nozzle Kit : Yes(+6.99)
$69.94

Swiftech MCP655 12v DC Pump
$79.95

Swiftech MCRES-MICRO Reservoir -
Retail w/Revised Mounting Kit
$17.95

(10) Herbie Clip® Nylon Hose
Clamp Size G - Blue
$2.50

Swiftech MCR220-QP Quiet Power 2X120mm - Black
* Choose your fittings : x2 DTek High Flow 1/4 BSPP to 1/2. ID Barb (+4.00)
$46.95

Total shipped: $277.28

[DOM]

10 Tygon R3603
7/16in. ID
11/16in. OD

everything is 1/2

yeah one 1L should work

[DanishDevil]

I'm going with 7/16ID tubing, per Eastcoasthandle's recommendations, and reviews.

7/16" ID, 11/16" OD. Offers the best water flow, best bending radius and smaller foot print then other tube sizes. This is 1" smaller then 1/2" ID 5/8" OD tubing. This allows for the greatest bend radius and reduces the hindrance of airflow in the case. You can go smaller if you like. Just make sure you buy the barbs that the same size of the ID (Inner Diameter) of the tubing. Tubing 7/6" ID will fit 1/2" barbing because Tygon tubing is a bit more gummy then other tubing. As a rule of thumb always get more then you need. I usually get 10' to be safe but that's for my PC, yours may vary.

[[MD]Phantom]

Originally Posted by intel igent

swiftech mc-res

I have looked at the swiftech reservoir but they have a little temperature issues in bigger watercooling installations as it seems.

So i have decided too go with two XSPC 5.25 bay Reservoir's.

Only 1 question left, how about the size for the fittings and tube?.

1/2 or 3/8.

Al the other hoses you can buy around here have smaller inner diameters.

And how much millimeter or mm is the size of the tubes, because in the netherlands they do not work with inches.......

[intel igent]

6/7mm = 1/4"

9/10mm = 3/8"

12/13mm = 1/2"

a reservoir has no effect on temps.

[[MD]Phantom]

Here is the review, witch is about the swiftech micro reservoir.

http://www.rbmods.com/Articles/Swift...es_micro/1.php

Testing:

Our testing results show that you get a very quiet system with this tank, it has a type of design that makes it run very quiet you don't get as much bubbles and air which usually make the noise. Temperature wise we had some issues as we ran it with our testing rig. We have a custom built system with this tank, Maze 4 , BlackIce Extreme, 2 fans at 5V on rad, Eheim 1048. The CPU that this system cools is a Intel P4 3,8 GHz. With idle temperatures we were up at 50C as the ambient temperature was up to 24C today. Under load we ran between 55-57C which is quite high, comparing this all to a bigger tank we had a 7 degrees higher in idle mode and 10 degrees higher in full load. As we see the small amount of water heats up a bit faster than with a bigger tank as we ran the fans on low speed to keep the system quiet.

Conclusion:

It's a very small tank and this would probably do awesome in a barebone system but for a bigger rig I don't think this is the best choice. I think I covered most of the important facts in the testing part so all I can really say is that this is a nice little tank even though I had some problems mounting it and with a bigger system it has some temperature issues. I want to give this 3 out of 5 for the size and quality on it.

Pros:

+ Size
+ Quality
+ Two sizes of tubing

Cons:

- Hard to mount with the screws in most cases
- Temperature issues

[EastCoasthandle]

Interesting review. I use the Cyclone 120. However, this is a very large reservoir and would normally mount were the rad box would go. Not everyone would have the room for it.

[[MD]Phantom]

Hmmm don't think it would fit me no, i already found interesting reservoirs.

The XSPC 5.25 bay reservoir.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=216

and the reviews i read about it where good too, and i like seeing the water so i can check it without having too crowl under my desk.


6/7mm = 1/4"

9/10mm = 3/8"

12/13mm = 1/2"

When i read this i get the feeling that bigger tubes is better?, or is there a level in wich the tubes become too big and the pressure wil drop too much.( i hope this does not sound too noobish)

[DaMulta]

Persoanly east I think the Dangerden res is the pick for me.
http://www.dangerden.com/store/produ...&cat=27&page=1


Who uses all of their bay spots? Perfect place to put it IMO.



or what [MD]Phantom just posted above.

[DanishDevil]

I was thinking about having a lot less water with the micro res too, and I'm going to have at least 3 if not 4 free 5.25" bays in my system. I'm not sure what I want to do with them yet, but I'm gonna get the MicroRes to start.

One reason I think those guys had that result was that they are using very low powered fans in their rig, and they are probably not really cooling the water that much. I would be willing to wager that their water sitting in their reservoir probably cooled as much as the radiator cooled it, and that's why they saw the rise in temps.

[EastCoasthandle]

I agree, a bay res would be best for most PCs.

[DaMulta]

BUT the one that you use would be easier to fill. The bay units collect plenty of bubbles when filling, making it a pain the ass sometimes.

[[MD]Phantom]

Check this review and maybee you'll change youre mind.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p...ervoir__black_

[intel igent]

@ [MD] : it is a moot point because your load temps will always be the same regardless of reservoir size.

eg: my temps wont change at all if i switched from a T-line to a reservoir

reservoirs are a personal choice thing the swiftech just happens to be the most widely used

[EastCoasthandle]

Originally Posted by DaMulta

BUT the one that you use would be easier to fill. The bay units collect plenty of bubbles when filling, making it a pain the ass sometimes.

Yup, that's why I stopped using the bay res.

[[MD]Phantom]

Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

I agree, a bay res would be best for most PCs.

Originally Posted by EastCoasthandl

Yup, that's why I stopped using the bay res

It is just me or??????

[DaMulta]

what he is saying that the bay is the easiest to use, because there is a place for it in almost all pcs.

Where the one he is using is better, but a harder place to find to place it at.

[DanishDevil]

Quick question: Is there a backplate for AM2 with the Fuzion that I should look into getting, or is what comes with the block sufficient?

[DaMulta]

I used my old backplat that came with the AM2 motherboard.

Works great.

[EastCoasthandle]

Originally Posted by DaMulta

what he is saying that the bay is the easiest to use, because there is a place for it in almost all pcs.

Where the one he is using is better, but a harder place to find to place it at.

I try not to transfer my experience regarding the bay res onto others as they have had more success with it.

[DaMulta]

Ok

[[MD]Phantom]

So you had some BAD expirence with them right?.

Well i always mention BAD expirereances to poeple if it is regarded too the hardware or software.

If it is more like personal feelings for the hard or software i do also but with the information that I did not like it, not that it is faulty in general.

Because if the other just does not know, it might offer him some help and assistence, if i tell him my expiriences about the item.

Nevertheless ill go for the bay's.