RBE - General information and discussion - Page 2

BAGZZlash · Mar 13, 2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

this tool is now an official tpu utility... i will support the author with infos on bios layout but he will code it

Once again and in public: Thank you for everything you already helped me with. This was more than I did imagine. I'm excited about the things to come!

Frogger · Mar 13, 2008, 09:53 PM

BAGZZlash just wanted to say THANKS for this fine tool have been using v0.98 for my clients this new v looks to be great also

ps Welcome to TPU hope you enjoy it here

mandelore · Mar 13, 2008, 09:57 PM

been using RBE for a lill while now, this new one looks very impressive

HousERaT · Mar 13, 2008, 10:34 PM

Perhaps people can list the card they're using the bios mod for and what the before and after experience was like?

Example: I was using a XXXXX Card with stock bios clocks of XXXXX and after switching my volts and clocks to XXXXX my new overclock is XXXXX.

Same for fan control.

Thanks
The RaT

Name Change · Mar 13, 2008, 10:51 PM

Using this tool Can I take out clock lock on HD3870 of mine.

HousERaT · Mar 13, 2008, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name Change

Using this tool Can I take out clock lock on HD3870 of mine.

No, and it says that in the FAQ.

You have to use a bios that isn't locked.

ghost101 · Mar 13, 2008, 11:21 PM

When i upped the BIOS voltage to 1.327v, i only got ~1.275v which is up from the 1.21v i got wthout the bios tweak. i had to use a pencil mod to get the rest of the way to 1.4v.

This was with the computerbase.de bios editor. This tool reads the same volts in the BIOS i used, so cant imagine it being any different.

BAGZZlash · Mar 14, 2008, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name Change

Using this tool Can I take out clock lock on HD3870 of mine.

For sure? I'd appreciate approved data on that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousERaT

No, and it says that in the FAQ.

You have to use a bios that isn't locked.

Yes, but it also says that RBE can clock beyond then 862 MHz limit. Just "unlocking" for software overclocking isn't possible by BIOS patching. You will need a completely new BIOS for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghost101

When i upped the BIOS voltage to 1.327v, i only got ~1.275v which is up from the 1.21v i got wthout the bios tweak. i had to use a pencil mod to get the rest of the way to 1.4v.

This was with the computerbase.de bios editor. This tool reads the same volts in the BIOS i used, so cant imagine it being any different.

As I said before: All one can do is to instruct the BIOS to set the voltage selected. But the hardware has to implement that. If it doesn't, a hardware mod seems inevitable.

W1zzard · Mar 14, 2008, 09:16 AM

the voltages in the bios are horribly implemented. basically there is a list of voltages you can choose from but this list almost never matches the reality, also there are many boards where voltage control isnt possible but the bios still advertises it

gR3iF · Mar 14, 2008, 12:43 PM

Yeah that is exactly what i mean. Then fan controll doesnt work with a 3850 or a 3870 for me.
I would really apreciate it if this feature is running. If you need any information let me know.

BAGZZlash · Mar 14, 2008, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gR3iF

Yeah that is exactly what i mean. Then fan controll doesnt work with a 3850 or a 3870 for me.
I would really apreciate it if this feature is running. If you need any information let me know.

I was planning to do some more research on that either way during the next few days. Let' just wait and see what come out if it after all.

asb2106 · Mar 14, 2008, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

the voltages in the bios are horribly implemented. basically there is a list of voltages you can choose from but this list almost never matches the reality, also there are many boards where voltage control isnt possible but the bios still advertises it

there is the answer I was looking for... Thanks Wiz

Does anyone know what boards might legitimately make that voltage change?

Simri · Mar 14, 2008, 01:23 PM

ATIWinFlash Tips/Help

You can use ATIWinFlash as ATIFlash/FlashROM in Windows

start --> run --> cmd
cd ... "C:\ATIWinFlash_2.0.0.2"
ATIWinflash -h (help)
ATIWinflash -f -p 0 BIOS.rom (flash+force)

Warning !!!
after/next/following: ATIWinflash -f -p 0 BIOS.rom wait 1-2min

EastCoasthandle · Mar 14, 2008, 01:49 PM

Hmm,
This program read my 2d clock voltage as 1 for my HIS 2900XT. I don't think that's correct
Also, I get 3 dots for 3d voltage.

lemonadesoda · Mar 14, 2008, 02:06 PM

@BAGGZZ

Thank you for the time you've spend developing RBE and making it available to the community. Good stuff! Hertzlichen dank!

I run ran RBE. It would be GREAT if you made the software compatible with R4xx and above (ie X800 and above). I know this is extra work on your side... but it is exactly these cards where we do a lot of hacking

P.S.

1./ I tried to load an X800 BIOS and it *crashed* with a script error.

2./ How does your "2xxx" fan control work? Does fan speed control work for other cards also?

FR@NK · Mar 14, 2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

It would be GREAT if you made the software compatible with R4xx and above (ie X800 and above). I know this is extra work on your side... but it is exactly these cards where we do a lot of hacking

Older cards dont have voltages controlled in software or bios. On the x800 the voltages are controlled by resistors on the card.

trog100 · Mar 14, 2008, 04:09 PM

so even with 3xxxx cards that can be bios voltage altered its still hit and miss as to what voltages u actually get.. ??

trog

HousERaT · Mar 14, 2008, 04:25 PM

I think it would make sense is this thread was moved down into the TPU "Our software" section. What do you folks think?

kup · Mar 14, 2008, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trog100

so even with 3xxxx cards that can be bios voltage altered its still hit and miss as to what voltages u actually get.. ??

trog

It's only hit and miss as far as the PCB being flashed to. My GeCube has no software (or bios) voltage control so regardless of what I set it is up the the voltage regulators on the board to set the stock voltage of 1.33v. This leaves hardmodding the board as the only control option.

If the PCB has the correct 2D and 3D power circuitry implemented then the bios set voltages should be as close to correct as the hardware allows (variations as per on all hardware is what I mean).

W1zzard · Mar 14, 2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousERaT

I think it would make sense is this thread was moved down into the TPU "Our software" section. What do you folks think?

there will be a sub-forum etc. for rbe when it's a bit more mature

BAGZZlash · Mar 14, 2008, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

@BAGGZZ

Thank you for the time you've spend developing RBE and making it available to the community. Good stuff! Hertzlichen dank!

I run ran RBE. It would be GREAT if you made the software compatible with R4xx and above (ie X800 and above). I know this is extra work on your side... but it is exactly these cards where we do a lot of hacking

Mmmh, I don't think I will support older cards than 2xx0 series. I promise to look after it, so maybe... But my policy is to carry on after the death of BIOS modding for ATI cards with RaBiT. RaBiT should support you video card.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastCoasthandle

Hmm,
This program read my 2d clock voltage as 1 for my HIS 2900XT. I don't think that's correct
Also, I get 3 dots for 3d voltage.

This is not an issue. Please refer to the in-program FAQ for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gR3iF

Yeah that is exactly what i mean. Then fan controll doesnt work with a 3850 or a 3870 for me.
I would really apreciate it if this feature is running. If you need any information let me know.

This is what I was trying to tell. However, could you tell me exactly what card you have and send me your BIOS?

mandelore · Mar 14, 2008, 05:34 PM

3 dots for voltage means its automatically/preset vallued. just over write these dots with correct voltage

Name Change · Mar 14, 2008, 07:37 PM

hmm i flashed my bios to 870/2450. how do I know if these clocks are the ones working since only program that detects clocks are atitool. gpuz only detects 800/2400 stock. How do i know if clocks are working 3d mode.

trog100 · Mar 14, 2008, 07:40 PM

run the rivatuner monitor while a 3d app is running..

trog

Name Change · Mar 14, 2008, 07:53 PM

I have tried and still says stock clocks. Maybe i should try to re-flash the card...

Mar 13, 2008, 09:53 PM	#27
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,932 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 242 Times in 216 Posts System Specs	BAGZZlash just wanted to say THANKS for this fine tool have been using v0.98 for my clients this new v looks to be great also ps Welcome to TPU hope you enjoy it here __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

System Name:	MONEY PIT
Processor:	i7-3770K @ 4800 1.20v batch #3231B415
Motherboard:	ASrock Z77 OC Formula w onboard waterblocks
Cooling:	Apogee HD, MCP655,rad MCR320-XP,Micro Rev2 res
Memory:	G,skill Trident X F3-2400C10D-16GTX
Video Card:	MSI R7970 PE @1150/1700 LIGHTING bios Wcooled
Hard Disk:	2x120gig Wildfire raid0 2x120gig VERTEX3 raid0
CRT/LCD Model:	eyefinity 3 Samsung2343bwx
Case:	NZXT Phantom White w/red
Sound Card:	ReCon3d fatal1ty pro, Logitech z906 THX
PSU:	corsair AX860i
Software:	64bit ++++ win 7

Mar 13, 2008, 09:57 PM	#28
mandelore Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK-small Village in a Valley Near Newcastle Posts: 2,917 (1.18/day) Thanks: 33 Thanked 152 Times in 127 Posts System Specs	been using RBE for a lill while now, this new one looks very impressive __________________ [img disabled]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b312/eve_images/hiqsig.jpg[/IMG] “looks like an extremely mouldy donut with veins and arteries” -hat “OCZ has exploded their inventory, and new DDR3 offerings seem to be dropping like bombs over baghdad . . .” -imperialreign

Processor:	Quad Extreme 9650 @ 4.4GHz 9C load :)
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus Rampage (mod) SE (watercooled NB/SB/Voltage Regs)
Cooling:	Arctic Web 437W TEC
Memory:	4GB (2x2GB) OCZ Flex2 PC2-9200
Video Card:	1GB HD4890 @ 1000 Core, 4.8GHz Mem
Hard Disk:	600 GB RAID 0 Perp Drives
Optical Drive:	Asus Lightscribe 20x DVD RW
CRT/LCD Model:	24" Dell HD 2407WFT rev 2 @ 1920x1200
Case:	Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel.
Sound Card:	Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Professional
PSU:	Enermax Infiniti 650 PCIE 2 Ready
Software:	Vista Ultimate 64
Benchmarks:	Currently: -SuperPi 1M: 9.78 seconds

Mar 13, 2008, 10:34 PM	#29
HousERaT Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 119 (0.04/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts System Specs	Perhaps people can list the card they're using the bios mod for and what the before and after experience was like? Example: I was using a XXXXX Card with stock bios clocks of XXXXX and after switching my volts and clocks to XXXXX my new overclock is XXXXX. Same for fan control. Thanks The RaT __________________ "This asiatic black man is a dog spelled backwards" - Grand Puba

Processor:	Q6700
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus Formula
Cooling:	Ultra Extreme 120
Memory:	Ballistix Tracer 8500
Video Card:	HD 3870 Crossfire
Hard Disk:	74G Raptor
Optical Drive:	NEC
CRT/LCD Model:	A Sony big one
Case:	Kingwin SK523
PSU:	Corsair HX620
Software:	Yes :p

Mar 13, 2008, 10:51 PM	#30
Name Change Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Using this tool Can I take out clock lock on HD3870 of mine.

Mar 13, 2008, 11:21 PM	#32
ghost101 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,170 (0.46/day) Thanks: 73 Thanked 168 Times in 144 Posts System Specs	When i upped the BIOS voltage to 1.327v, i only got ~1.275v which is up from the 1.21v i got wthout the bios tweak. i had to use a pencil mod to get the rest of the way to 1.4v. This was with the computerbase.de bios editor. This tool reads the same volts in the BIOS i used, so cant imagine it being any different.

Mar 14, 2008, 09:16 AM	#34
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,761 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,209 Times in 3,157 Posts System Specs	the voltages in the bios are horribly implemented. basically there is a list of voltages you can choose from but this list almost never matches the reality, also there are many boards where voltage control isnt possible but the bios still advertises it

Processor:	Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.4 GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS P8Z68-V Pro
Memory:	3x 2048 MB Mushkin DDR3
Video Card:	ASUS GeForce GTX 670 Direct CU II TOP
Hard Disk:	Crucial C300 128 GB, WD6400AAKS 640 GB, WD15EADS 1.5 TB
Optical Drive:	BenQ DW1640
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell U3011 30", 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Case:	NZXT H2
Sound Card:	On-board Realtek HD
PSU:	Kingwin Absolute Platinum 550 W
Software:	Windows 7 64-bit

Mar 14, 2008, 12:43 PM	#35
gR3iF Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamburg Posts: 1,708 (0.57/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 35 Times in 33 Posts System Specs	Yeah that is exactly what i mean. Then fan controll doesnt work with a 3850 or a 3870 for me. I would really apreciate it if this feature is running. If you need any information let me know.

Processor:	Intel I7 2600k@ 4.5
Motherboard:	Gigabyte p67 ud4 b3
Cooling:	AC Cuplex kryos Hf
Memory:	8096 Exceleram 1600@ 1333 Cl9 1.35v
Video Card:	Palit Gtx570@950/1900@1.063v
Hard Disk:	Ocz Vertex 3 120gb, 2tb Seagate 7200rpm s-ata3
Optical Drive:	Lg Bluray Combo
CRT/LCD Model:	Asus 24inch Lcd
Case:	Coolermaster Cosmos S
Sound Card:	Creative X-fi with Teufel Magnum Power Edition
PSU:	Coolermaster 700W Silent Pro Gold
Software:	Linux?^^ ;P Windows 7 64bit

System Name:	THE RAMPAGE!
Processor:	Q6600 WC
Motherboard:	ASUS Rampage Formula (x48)
Cooling:	ApogeeGT, 2xEK Full Cover 3870, 320rad, 220rad, modded mcp355
Memory:	G-Skill DDR2 1000 2x2gb
Video Card:	Crossfire - Sapphire Toxic 3870 WC
Hard Disk:	Raptor X, 160gb, 250gb, 1tb, 4x500gb - RAID5, 3x750gb - RAID5
Optical Drive:	Samsung SATA 22x
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 24", LG 19"
Case:	Gigabyte 3dmars
Sound Card:	Supreme FX optical out to Z5500!
PSU:	PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750
Benchmarks:	Everest 4.5 CPU Queen - 30,154 3dMark06 - 21551

Mar 14, 2008, 01:23 PM	#38
Simri Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 24 (0.01/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	ATIWinFlash Tips/Help You can use ATIWinFlash as ATIFlash/FlashROM in Windows start --> run --> cmd cd ... "C:\ATIWinFlash_2.0.0.2" ATIWinflash -h (help) ATIWinflash -f -p 0 BIOS.rom (flash+force) Warning !!! after/next/following: ATIWinflash -f -p 0 BIOS.rom wait 1-2min Attached Thumbnails

Processor:	Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 1,86GHz @ 3.03GHz sSpec=SLA4U
Motherboard:	N/A (Asus Maximus Extreme)
Cooling:	N/A
Memory:	N/A (OCZ Platinum EB XTC 2GB Kit DDR3 PC3-14400 1800MHz )
Video Card:	ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT @ 850/1000
Hard Disk:	RAID 0 2x Maxtor 6V080E0 80GB + RAID 0 2x WDC WD1200JD-00GBB0 140GB
Optical Drive:	LiteOn DVDRW SOHW-1693S
CRT/LCD Model:	LG L194WT
Case:	Lian-Li PC-65B
Sound Card:	Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS
PSU:	OCZ Powerstream 520W

Mar 14, 2008, 01:49 PM	#39
EastCoasthandle Eligible for custom title Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,244 (2.12/day) Thanks: 382 Thanked 1,526 Times in 865 Posts System Specs	Hmm, This program read my 2d clock voltage as 1 for my HIS 2900XT. I don't think that's correct Also, I get 3 dots for 3d voltage. __________________ Windows 7 Club!, Online Gaming Lag and You GPU/CPU Water Cooling Club, Q9650 OC'd vs 2600K Stock PC Air Cooling Club, Game Performance Tips

System Name:	MY PC
Processor:	E8400 @ 3.80Ghz > Q9650 3.60Ghz
Motherboard:	Maximus Formula
Cooling:	D5, 7/16" ID Tubing, Maze4 with Fuzion CPU WB
Memory:	XMS 8500C5D @ 1066MHz
Video Card:	HD 2900 XT 858/900 to 4870 to 5870 (Keep Vreg area clean)
Hard Disk:	2
Optical Drive:	2
CRT/LCD Model:	24"
Case:	P180
Sound Card:	X-fi Plantinum
PSU:	Silencer 750
Software:	XP Pro SP3 to Windows 7
Benchmarks:	This varies from one driver to another.

Mar 14, 2008, 02:06 PM	#40
lemonadesoda Eligible for custom title Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,337 (2.17/day) Thanks: 749 Thanked 960 Times in 710 Posts System Specs	@BAGGZZ Thank you for the time you've spend developing RBE and making it available to the community. Good stuff! Hertzlichen dank! I run ran RBE. It would be GREAT if you made the software compatible with R4xx and above (ie X800 and above). I know this is extra work on your side... but it is exactly these cards where we do a lot of hacking P.S. 1./ I tried to load an X800 BIOS and it crashed with a script error. 2./ How does your "2xxx" fan control work? Does fan speed control work for other cards also? Last edited by lemonadesoda; Mar 14, 2008 at 02:16 PM.

System Name:	ICE-QUAD // ICE-CRUNCH
Processor:	Q6600 // 2x Xeon 5472
Memory:	2GB DDR // 8GB FB-DIMM
Video Card:	HD3850-AGP // FireGL 3400
CRT/LCD Model:	2 x Samsung 204Ts = 3200x1200
Sound Card:	Audigy 2
Software:	Windows Server 2003 R2 as a Workstation

Processor:	3930k @4.5Gees
Motherboard:	Asus Rampage IV
Cooling:	Air :(
Memory:	64GB Crucial 833MHz CL8
Video Card:	Asus 7970 MatrixP
Hard Disk:	4x Intel SSD raid
Optical Drive:	Bluray and HDDVD
CRT/LCD Model:	Pioneer Elite PRO-101
PSU:	Corsair AX860
Software:	8 x64

Mar 14, 2008, 04:09 PM	#42
trog100 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,401 (1.62/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 260 Times in 233 Posts System Specs	so even with 3xxxx cards that can be bios voltage altered its still hit and miss as to what voltages u actually get.. ?? trog __________________ Ignore the truth.. follow the herd.. you will make more friends that way and life will be easier..

Processor:	Intel E8400 at 4 gig.. 24/7 cruising..
Motherboard:	Abit.. IP35 Pro.. bus 450.. FSB 1800
Cooling:	Artic pro 64 cpu cooler.. stock ati vga cooler..
Memory:	4 gig Geil 800 ULL at 900.. 5-5-5-18.. 2.2 volts
Video Card:	ATI 3870.. tried two.. back to one.. 885/1275 gaming
Hard Disk:	2-150 1-400 sata plus 3 external usb drives total 1060 gig..
Optical Drive:	1 pioneer dual layer..
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer 22 inch widescreen P series 1680 x 1050
Case:	I-Cute jet.. midi tower.. 2 120mm 1 140mm case fans
Sound Card:	onboard sounds.. finally ditched the creative sound cards..
PSU:	Jeantech Arctic JN120F-600AP12V2 600 watt modular..
Software:	Win XP pro plus whatever..??
Benchmarks:	super pi 10.094 @ 4.5.. 2005 = 23373 2006 = 13360 lightsmark = 320 furbench = 3541

Mar 14, 2008, 04:25 PM	#43
HousERaT Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 119 (0.04/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts System Specs	I think it would make sense is this thread was moved down into the TPU "Our software" section. What do you folks think? __________________ "This asiatic black man is a dog spelled backwards" - Grand Puba

System Name:	Maximus Rampage
Processor:	Q6600 @ 3.72GHz (4.2GHz Max)
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus Formula Rev 1.02g @ Rampage Bios 0219
Cooling:	Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme w/ 2x120mm 75CFM Sharkoon Silent Eagles @ Push/Pull
Memory:	2x1GB Corsair XMS2 6400C4 DHX @ 4-4-4-12
Video Card:	GeCube ATi HD 3870 X-Turbo O.C. Edition @ HIS r2 Turbo Bios
Hard Disk:	2x36GB Raptors, 150GB Raptor, 2x500GB Seagate Barracuda SATAII, 2x250GB Maxtor SATAII
Optical Drive:	NEC 4550 DL +/- DVDRW / NEC 3520a DL +/- DVDRW
CRT/LCD Model:	Yuraku 24" VA Panel (180/180 Viewing Angle) 1920x1200
Case:	Antec 900 Gaming Case / Caseless
Sound Card:	X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Edition
PSU:	850w Thermaltake ToughPower Modular
Software:	Windows XP Pro x86 / OSx86 10.5.2 Vanilla Kernel / Vista x64 Stripped, Gutted and Tweaked

Mar 14, 2008, 05:34 PM	#47
mandelore Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK-small Village in a Valley Near Newcastle Posts: 2,917 (1.18/day) Thanks: 33 Thanked 152 Times in 127 Posts System Specs	3 dots for voltage means its automatically/preset vallued. just over write these dots with correct voltage __________________ [img disabled]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b312/eve_images/hiqsig.jpg[/IMG] “looks like an extremely mouldy donut with veins and arteries” -hat “OCZ has exploded their inventory, and new DDR3 offerings seem to be dropping like bombs over baghdad . . .” -imperialreign

Mar 14, 2008, 07:37 PM	#48
Name Change Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hmm i flashed my bios to 870/2450. how do I know if these clocks are the ones working since only program that detects clocks are atitool. gpuz only detects 800/2400 stock. How do i know if clocks are working 3d mode.

Mar 14, 2008, 07:40 PM	#49
trog100 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,401 (1.62/day) Thanks: 5 Thanked 260 Times in 233 Posts System Specs	run the rivatuner monitor while a 3d app is running.. trog __________________ Ignore the truth.. follow the herd.. you will make more friends that way and life will be easier..

Mar 14, 2008, 07:53 PM	#50
Name Change Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have tried and still says stock clocks. Maybe i should try to re-flash the card...

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Everest 1.50	W1zzard	News	0	Oct 14, 2004 11:08 AM