RBE - General information and discussion

[asb2106]

Originally Posted by kup

It's only hit and miss as far as the PCB being flashed to. My GeCube has no software (or bios) voltage control so regardless of what I set it is up the the voltage regulators on the board to set the stock voltage of 1.33v. This leaves hardmodding the board as the only control option.

If the PCB has the correct 2D and 3D power circuitry implemented then the bios set voltages should be as close to correct as the hardware allows (variations as per on all hardware is what I mean).

yes, does anyone know what boards can do that??

[trog100]

rivatuner is correct.. if the speed dosnt crank up its not doing so.. believe what it tell u..

trog

[trog100]

Originally Posted by asb2106

yes, does anyone know what boards can do that??

as yet no..

or at least no list exists..

trog

[asb2106]

Originally Posted by Name Change

I have tried and still says stock clocks. Maybe i should try to re-flash the card...

why dont you just change the core and mem speed in riva and have it apply the speeds at boot?

its a much safer method than flashin a bios. Adjusting in riva wont void warrenties either! what they dont know cant hurt them!

and yes, trog is the ultimate master of knowledge(HEHE J/K), but he does know what hes talking about, hes got 2 of these cards

[asb2106]

Originally Posted by trog100

as yet no..

or at least no list exists..

trog

bummer, Im buying one in the next upcomin week, and that would be nice to not have to mess with an iron, Id like to get 1.4, 1.5 maybe, and call it a day, I just want to get to like 950core.

Oh and before - that was not a personal attack - just a joke

[trog100]

i try to keep up to date with the cards.. one thing is clear.. some chips go better than others by 50 mhz or so even at the same voltage..

the HIS 850 core turbo must have speed binned chips.. some other cards come with better chips but its pot luck..

i think bios volt modding is for any bios crippled 3850 cards.. again some are bios crippled some probably hard wire crippled..

the partners seem to be playing to their hearts content.. too many variations on a theme..

trog

[DonGeilo]

Hi, you have a nice tool there.

I have this Card, http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?a=29...v=l#filterform

with the attached Bios

and i have these problem



My Card have an Fan Control, but i can´t go under 30%.

[lemonadesoda]

Originally Posted by BAGGZZ

Mmmh, I don't think I will support older cards than 2xx0 series. I promise to look after it, so maybe... But my policy is to carry on after the death of BIOS modding for ATI cards with RaBiT. RaBiT should support you video card.

Just some thoughts:

1./ Make sure RBE doesnt *CRASH* when you load an incompatible BIOS... but reports "this is an xzy BIOS, RBE is not compatible" and refuse to load.
2./ Have a drop down box allowing older cards... with then a help statement like "RBE cannot edit this BIOS... try using xyz with a link to xyz"
3./ GPU-Z *is* compatible with older cards ;-)
I agree, RaBiT is probably fine for all older cards. Does it do the X1xxx series? But a link to the TPU download section for RaBiT would be nice. Remember us old-timers know about RaBit, but the community is full of new people and they would appreciate the link, or HELP file.

[BAGZZlash]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

1./ Make sure RBE doesnt *CRASH* when you load an incompatible BIOS... but reports "this is an xzy BIOS, RBE is not compatible" and refuse to load.
2./ Have a drop down box allowing older cards... with then a help statement like "RBE cannot edit this BIOS... try using xyz with a link to xyz"
3./ GPU-Z *is* compatible with older cards ;-)
I agree, RaBiT is probably fine for all older cards. Does it do the X1xxx series? But a link to the TPU download section for RaBiT would be nice. Remember us old-timers know about RaBit, but the community is full of new people and they would appreciate the link, or HELP file.

ad 1.) Of course there will be a handling for that.
ad 2.) I don't think that's useful. But as I said: I'm checking on some things and if that will come out positively, there will be some changes... Don't want to say any more about this right now!
ad 3.) Who said it doesn't? But that's not really comparable. However, I posted a link to RaBiT and to NiBiTor in this thread's first post. Can't do more than that to help with research. And no one who is unable or too lazy to use google should tinker with BIOS flashing anyway.

Please don't get this wrong: I'm really greatful for any hints and thoughts you or anyone might have. Thanks to all!

[AozRoon]

Hi BAGZZlash !

I am using your great RBE since the 0.95 version and I have just discovered today that 1.07 version allows now to edit fan speed thresholds ! Very nice improvement ...

I have noticed, when monitoring my card (2900Pro 512bits), that the temperature thresholds are not the same to increase or decrease the fan rotation speed.

For instance, by default, the fan speed goes up from 25% to 31% whenever the temperature become more than 50°C but decrease from 31% to 25% when temperature fall down below 45°C (not 50°C). This is obviously to avoid the fan to change too often its speed.

In RBE 1.07 (which I did not test yet) you seems to allow to edit the temperature threshold for the fan speed to increase, but do you have the project to allow editing the decreasing fan speed thresholds ? Or perhaps the gap between those thresholds is fixed (5°C in our example).

Thanks a lot !

Aoz.

[BAGZZlash]

Originally Posted by AozRoon

Hi BAGZZlash !

I am using your great RBE since the 0.95 version and I have just discovered today that 1.07 version allows now to edit fan speed thresholds ! Very nice improvement ...

I have noticed, when monitoring my card (2900Pro 512bits), that the temperature thresholds are not the same to increase or decrease the fan rotation speed.

For instance, by default, the fan speed goes up from 25% to 31% whenever the temperature become more than 50°C but decrease from 31% to 25% when temperature fall down below 45°C (not 50°C). This is obviously to avoid the fan to change too often its speed.

In RBE 1.07 (which I did not test yet) you seems to allow to edit the temperature threshold for the fan speed to increase, but do you have the project to allow editing the decreasing fan speed thresholds ? Or perhaps the gap between those thresholds is fixed (5°C in our example).

Thanks a lot !

Aoz.

Hi!

Thanks for the cheers!
Yes, this feature is called 'Hysteresis'. It's easy to implement this, but I didn't think that anyone would be eager for this. I'll remember you for the next release.

[AozRoon]

Hi BAGZZlash !

After tests, it seems that it is the histeresis threshold (5°c) which is coded in the bios, and not the fan speed decreasing temperatures thresholds.

That means that increasing the 25%->31% temperature threshold from 50° to 55° also leads to an increase of the 31%->25% threshold from 45°->50°.

Which sounds really good ! So you don't have any work to do on this side, 5°c for the histeresis is ok.

Amazing tool this RBE !! Our HD2900 are no more noisy

t h a n k y o u B A G Z Z l a s h ! !

[NicolasG]

Unfortunately, it does not work with Mobility Radeon HD 2600 BIOS. Does not even want to load it.

[pablo NZ]

Hi BAGZZlash, I can't save the original BIOS off my Sapphire 3870, so being a knowledgeable guy I was wondering if you might know a resolution. Details in the thread below:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=55497

Sorry if this is off topic

[BAGZZlash]

RBE v1.08 just released! Have fun!

[cool_recep]

Release Notes...

Added some new bugs. Because most of the code is completely new, there will be some bugs for sure.

LOL...

[AozRoon]

BAGZZlash, you should work for AMD

Thanks

[AsRock]

It messed my games up as i tried this a few days ago. 2D was fine don't know about the fan but 3D was a complete mess when i tried to set fan and clocks to 830\930.

This was v1.07. Anyone tried 1.08 with a 2900/XT ?

[VuurVOS]

I like to see if possible a option to set a minimum fan speed for the HD3870?

[BAGZZlash]

Originally Posted by VuurVOS

I like to see if possible a option to set a minimum fan speed for the HD3870?

There will be some more options for 3xx0 fan control in the next version. Let's wait and see...

[BAGZZlash]

Originally Posted by AsRock

It messed my games up as i tried this a few days ago. 2D was fine don't know about the fan but 3D was a complete mess when i tried to set fan and clocks to 830\930.

This was v1.07. Anyone tried 1.08 with a 2900/XT ?

What was the matter? Can you explain a little more?
You should try v1.08. I's completely rewritten!

[mikek75]

Cheers for this Bagzzlash, I've just used it to adjust the fanspeed on my ASUS 3870. It was getting to 90c. I lowed the threshold from 73c to 55c and increased the steepness from 48 to 70.

Just ran 3dmark06 and the temperature hovvered around the 72c mark, fanspeed increased to 42% as monitored by Rivatuner.

[AsRock]

Originally Posted by BAGZZlash

What was the matter? Can you explain a little more?
You should try v1.08. I's completely rewritten!

Well not going try it with 1.07 again. BUT i'll try it with 1.08 for sure in fact after this post lol.


The problem was in 3D that there was many mixed up colours on screen. IF 1.08 does it to i'll see if i can take a screenshot of it.

Screenshot not possible and 1.08 does the same thing. All though 1 game started then every thing went corrupt after about 5 seconds then monitor turns off. Guessing the GPU is crashing for some reason.

The coruption is lines with multiple colored pixels.

[Mad-Matt]

just tested 1.08 of rbe with my 3870 using latest sapphire bios from this site and it seems to be working well.

Is this the right place for a feature request ?
Is it possible to change in the bios the pal/ntsc mode of the card like on previous ati cards. The 3870 is the first ati card ive had that for whatever reason doesnt have the jumper switches for setting pal mode. Id like to be able to do this as its the only way I can get pal modes such as 720x576 to show up in the display options. handy for emus where i want exact pal screen mode

[VuurVOS]

Originally Posted by Mad-Matt

just tested 1.08 of rbe with my 3870 using latest sapphire bios from this site and it seems to be working well.

Is this the right place for a feature request ?
Is it possible to change in the bios the pal/ntsc mode of the card like on previous ati cards. The 3870 is the first ati card ive had that for whatever reason doesnt have the jumper switches for setting pal mode. Id like to be able to do this as its the only way I can get pal modes such as 720x576 to show up in the display options. handy for emus where i want exact pal screen mode

Some HD3870 have those swiches like my Sapphire.