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Old Mar 19, 2008, 08:04 AM   #51
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shadowxp interesting that you say

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I just downloaded the 430mb (full version) it in like 7 minutes (Woot for fast MS site, lol)

Got no issues so far, but nothing has been faster..*yet*
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i'm gonna image my vista partition before i install this... don't wanna find out that it stops my OEM hack....... ummm....... its only OEM'd coz of testing purposes on a spare machine.... yea... thats it.....

thats if i can install it with all the update problems i had!
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I hope ya got all them updates now man or ull have one hefty dl.
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the ram available with vista simple or vista with sp1 is not relevant, because the windows will set a value that dependents from one hardware configuration to another hardware configuration.

Also in time the windows try to optimize the space that he (vista) use in memory. So if you have a pc with a clean install and one pc with vista installed two weeks ago, the vista space in memory will be different from one pc to another, even are same configuration.

that was all with vista memory eating

and now ... my vista say the sp1 patch on the windows update list (that from vista) will need 120MB space to download..

I also wait to see if will have a positive impact on the masses
i'm sorry... what? what on earth are you trying to say? the ram available is not relevant because... ?
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just downloaded the standalone installer (i keep all my files & installers & everything, that way if i want 2 use it again or a friend does i dont have 2 redownload everything.. expecially if i reinstall.....)
hopefully the SP1 will fix all the update problems... fingers crossed...
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surprise surprise.... "Installation was not successful".... time for attempt 2!!!!
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surprise surprise.... "Installation was not successful".... time for attempt 2!!!!
Silly question: you've downloaded the correct version? See that in your system specs you've listed Vistax64 as your system.

What error-message are you getting? Specifically the ones listed in your Event Viewer.
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Yesterday at work I had a Vista Home Premium x32 laptop that would not take the standalone installer but worked fine through windows updates. Sitting here waiting for RC1 to uninstall and damn it's taking a long time
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Yesterday at work I had a Vista Home Premium x32 laptop that would not take the standalone installer but worked fine through windows updates. Sitting here waiting for RC1 to uninstall and damn it's taking a long time
Yep, same happened to one of the lappies I had on testing here at work. Removing the RC1 took ages (close to an hour 30), but it has to be done in order to get the RTM in, sadly enough.
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i'm sorry... what? what on earth are you trying to say? the ram available is not relevant because... ?


I really want to know what the hell he's on about....

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your problem with available ram...in vista install

it is simple

you have 4gb ram in your sistem with vista x64

ok, and the vista have XXX MB in your ram ok?

next stop your pc and take 2GB ram from the system, boot and see the difference, also you can try with 1gb and 3bg on system.

this is easy part and can be done in 1 hour. the not so easy part is to compare the memory quantity of vista after 2-3 weeks from a clean install.

you can run some memory monitor to have a clear idea.

I also don't want to add in this dialog the ready bust, the indexing service or the windows Prefetch and SuperFetch. (all that can influence direct the memory available for the application)

for that I say the memory available after vista install is not relevant

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^^

I don't think Mussel's has a problem to be honest, he was discussing how post-SP1 and SP1 address PAE on supported motherboards.

You've explained something we all already know.

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Fair play though, as I presume English isn't your native language so, you did well, in a cryptic fashion.

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this is correct the english isn't my native language. so please forgive my english.

I dont say about the PAE, I simple say that vista dont have a strict size in memory, the size is hardware dependent, but also the vista is self managing OS.

I play fair
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its ok, im not as stupid as i look! i am smart enough 2 not download the 32bit SP1! lol

i was previously having errors with updates that after a shitload of research & doing everything the knowledgebase mentioned i could not resolve the problem... but the whole time it totally passed my mind that im using symbolic links!

i just copied all my program files to the c drive & replaced the symbolic links & reattempted the SP1 & it all works now!!!!! so im running SP1 activated & finaly have all available updates!... now im gonna recreate the symbolic links & if i have any other problem, i'll know what it is!!!!!! about time i can finally close that update problem thread! (once i confirm that online updates work fine.. so far it appears that they do...)
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this is the 1st time i've had an up-to-date vista (well... not counting the beta releases!)
thank god!!!!!!!

anyone else with OEM hacks have good or bad news after applying the service pack???????? (obviously there will b some of each)

(update: online updates work fine at last!)
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My vista testing box (Abit NF7 XP3200) seems to be working ok with sp1 installed over an activated install. not using any bootloader hacks, just the asus oem slip code bios.
has to be said that vista runs like crap with single core 1gb mem. It barely leaves the hd alone long enough to use any games or apps and thats with indexing/superfetch and readyboost dissabled.

Ill just add that with ati x800xt and cat 8.3 halo2 still runs 3x faster under XP cat 8.3. under xp all settings maxed is very playable inc 2x aa andunder vista all settings are at lowest and it still chugs.
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Bollocks!

I was hoping someone would be able to test out an X2 (Athlon) with an AGP card and an nForce chipset. Guess I better pull my finger out and cure my own curiosity and finally reformat my system and try out Vista. Want to see if the Code 43 error is fixed within SP1.

Hmmm....
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this is correct the english isn't my native language. so please forgive my english.

I dont say about the PAE, I simple say that vista dont have a strict size in memory, the size is hardware dependent, but also the vista is self managing OS.

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i'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. I was saying that vista 32 bit is capped at either 3 or 3.5GB, so that this is fooling users into thinking that 32 bit supports all their ram.

you are talking about ram usage, which is quite different.
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i'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. I was saying that vista 32 bit is capped at either 3 or 3.5GB, so that this is fooling users into thinking that 32 bit supports all their ram.

you are talking about ram usage, which is quite different.
hey i understand you, well at least the people who gave feedback for sp1 wanted to have all their ram to be read up, they never said they want all their ram to be utilized...lol
but i have no idea what he's saying either
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i'm gonna image my vista partition before i install this... don't wanna find out that it stops my OEM hack....... ummm....... its only OEM'd coz of testing purposes on a spare machine.... yea... thats it.....

thats if i can install it with all the update problems i had!

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