New RAM New Mobo VISTA IS STILL SLOW!!!

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:06 PM

ok my computer with vista (desktop) was running slow....so i decided to upgrade:

core2duo e6550
2gigs of ram
x1650 pro 512mb memory (128-bit)
ecs mobo
I have a 200 gig hard drive a DVD burner, this computer is not on my general pc info it is a different computer (i will update it).

I know vista sucks, but with all this shouldn't it run fine with these credentials!!!???

panchoman · Apr 2, 2008, 09:07 PM

all i can say is: "welcome to vista"

alexp999 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stupidbiznitch9

ok my computer with vista (desktop) was running slow....so i decided to upgrade:

core2duo e6550
2gigs of ram
x1650 pro 512mb memory (128-bit)
ecs mobo
I have a 200 gig hard drive a DVD burner, this computer is not on my general pc info it is a different computer (i will update it).

I know vista sucks, but with all this shouldn't it run fine with these credentials!!!???

What do you define as slow?? And do you have more details on your system specs?

EastCoasthandle · Apr 2, 2008, 09:10 PM

Well duh! What was you expecting? Memory and new CPU doesn't necessarily make vista faster silly.
Now you understand what everyone else was complaining about. If you want vista to be "faster" upgrade again to a QX9660 (you may get away with eithera E8400 or Q9450) and get 2 more gigs of ram for a total of 4 gigs. Then and only then Vista *Might* be faster for you. However, game play will not be any faster then before. In fact it might be slower then before if you used XP.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Vista. Here are your eye shades, please drive forward. Thank you, come again...

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:15 PM

Manufacturer: ECS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Hard Drive: 200 GB
Video Card: Radeon X1650 Series
Monitor: Planar PL1910M
Sound Card: Digital Output Device (SPDIF) (2- High Definition Audio Device)
Speakers/Headphones: Custom Stereo (Onkyo)
Keyboard: USB Root Hub
Mouse: USB Root Hub
Mouse Surface:
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Business (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.071023
vista is the x64-bit edition (got it free) that is why i'm making all the fuss LOL

jbunch07 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:16 PM

what would you say is slow about it?
need more info on what its doing so slowly?
vista runs great on my current system (in sys specs)

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:18 PM

i changed the mobo when i gotta new CPU and slow = slow, sluggish, especially when loading multiple things.....

jbunch07 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:20 PM

well 2gig of mem was great for xp but about average for vista
adding more memory really helped when i went from 2gigs to 3gigs
multitasking was allot better

edit: and since you have 64bit you might as well get 4gigs : )

alexp999 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:25 PM

Vista x64 would probably benefit from 4gb. But it should run fine. What speed is your memory??
Vista runs great on my system. And it ran great on 2gb aswell!

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:27 PM

true, but the ECS mobo i have sucks and only has 2 DDR2 slots....

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:28 PM

my ram runs at 667mhz and are clocked @ 4-4-4-12

alexp999 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:30 PM

Thats should run great in any case. Is it slow straight after a clean install??

Solaris17 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:35 PM

hmmm trouble with multiple things you say?...intresting..i have a system similar and it runs perfect for me..im thiking hdd......is it sata or ide? and what is the amount of cache on disk?

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:36 PM

no i had it installed it with a crappy CPU/mobo combo then changed out the mobo and CPU (which has always worked for me) i went from intel to intel same socket and mobo manufacturer

mullered07 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:37 PM

have you done a clean install of vista since upgrading ?? i suggest you do if not, and what is slow about it? starting up, running programs just general slow responsivness when opening new windows etc, i actually find vista a lot faster than xp with things like opening up windows, ie and programs etc not too mention it is safer to boot and very rarely do you get somthing liek the dreaded BSOD.

check this out : vista tweak thread this helped me a lot when i first used vista as i couldnt stand all the warning boxes and confirmation dialogues for every little thing you want to run

plus there are a lot of memory saving tweaks and tips

alexp999 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:40 PM

If you havent done a clean install you definetly need to do so. Taking HDD's from one setup into another is never a good idea. Windows customizes and optimizes itself for the current setup so it wont be running at is best in a new machine.
Do a clean install and then see if it is still slow!

Mussels · Apr 2, 2008, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stupidbiznitch9

i changed the mobo when i gotta new CPU and slow = slow, sluggish, especially when loading multiple things.....

slow load times have everything to do with hard drives. make sure you're in UDMA mode (not pio) and make sure its not some old clunker IDE drive.

vista runs fine on 1GB ram... yeah its no good for gaming, but neither is XP with 1GB these days.

oh and lol, blame vista when you didnt even reinstall. format and do it again.

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:44 PM

i already did all that, im not an idiot.....

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:45 PM

i never reinstall, in my experiences, my system always seemed fine with xp(when changing out parts).......it an IDE, but it is newer..... 8MB cache....

mullered07 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:46 PM

whats ur hdd model and what size cacjhe does it have thats the only reason i can think of why it would be running slow on your specs

so have you done a clean install ? also 8mb cache 200gb hdd not very fast tbh when u change a mobo you ALWAYS need to reinstall clean

stupidbiznitch9 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:51 PM

i havent unless im goinf from intel to AMD or vice versa...

Mussels · Apr 2, 2008, 09:52 PM

he just said he never reinstalls.

seriously, you need to. the only times you dont have trouble is if you're going to the same IDE/sata controller - your problem sounds just like a slow hard drive issue, which really commonly happens when doing what you've done with moving the HDD to another mobo.

mullered07 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stupidbiznitch9

i havent unless im goinf from intel to AMD or vice versa...

join in 10p (20c ?) a slap lol

mullered07 · Apr 2, 2008, 09:57 PM

just back up what u need to keep and do a fresh install, what do you expect ur hdd has 8mb cache and is prolly clunking itself to death, you need to clear all the crap off it and perform a clean install simple

3991vhtes · Apr 2, 2008, 10:01 PM

Vista runs fine on my machine

With the following:

Asus A8V-VM SE Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Venice NOT OVERCLOCKED 2.4GHz
1GB DDR400
160GB Western Digital EIDE HDD
Diamond Radeon X1650Pro 512MB PCI-E Gfx card

Apr 2, 2008, 09:06 PM	#1
stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	New RAM New Mobo VISTA IS STILL SLOW!!! ok my computer with vista (desktop) was running slow....so i decided to upgrade: core2duo e6550 2gigs of ram x1650 pro 512mb memory (128-bit) ecs mobo I have a 200 gig hard drive a DVD burner, this computer is not on my general pc info it is a different computer (i will update it). I know vista sucks, but with all this shouldn't it run fine with these credentials!!!??? __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

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jbunch07 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chattanooga,TN Posts: 3,738 (1.95/day) Thanks: 499 Thanked 621 Times in 474 Posts System Specs	what would you say is slow about it? need more info on what its doing so slowly? vista runs great on my current system (in sys specs)

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Apr 2, 2008, 09:18 PM	#7
stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	i changed the mobo when i gotta new CPU and slow = slow, sluggish, especially when loading multiple things..... __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

Apr 2, 2008, 09:20 PM	#8
jbunch07 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chattanooga,TN Posts: 3,738 (1.95/day) Thanks: 499 Thanked 621 Times in 474 Posts System Specs	well 2gig of mem was great for xp but about average for vista adding more memory really helped when i went from 2gigs to 3gigs multitasking was allot better edit: and since you have 64bit you might as well get 4gigs : )

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Apr 2, 2008, 09:27 PM	#10
stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	true, but the ECS mobo i have sucks and only has 2 DDR2 slots.... __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

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stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	my ram runs at 667mhz and are clocked @ 4-4-4-12 __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

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Apr 2, 2008, 09:36 PM	#14
stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	no i had it installed it with a crappy CPU/mobo combo then changed out the mobo and CPU (which has always worked for me) i went from intel to intel same socket and mobo manufacturer __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

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stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	i already did all that, im not an idiot..... __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

Apr 2, 2008, 09:45 PM	#19
stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	i never reinstall, in my experiences, my system always seemed fine with xp(when changing out parts).......it an IDE, but it is newer..... 8MB cache.... __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

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mullered07 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,253 (0.98/day) Thanks: 65 Thanked 206 Times in 170 Posts System Specs	whats ur hdd model and what size cacjhe does it have thats the only reason i can think of why it would be running slow on your specs so have you done a clean install ? also 8mb cache 200gb hdd not very fast tbh when u change a mobo you ALWAYS need to reinstall clean

Apr 2, 2008, 09:51 PM	#21
stupidbiznitch9 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 245 (0.10/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts System Specs	i havent unless im goinf from intel to AMD or vice versa... __________________ COMPUTERS ARE LIFE, GET USED TO THEM!!!!!!!

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Mussels Doctor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA) Posts: 34,554 (10.97/day) Thanks: 3,699 Thanked 8,692 Times in 6,391 Posts System Specs	he just said he never reinstalls. seriously, you need to. the only times you dont have trouble is if you're going to the same IDE/sata controller - your problem sounds just like a slow hard drive issue, which really commonly happens when doing what you've done with moving the HDD to another mobo. __________________ Edumacational thread about PC Audio My external HDD's.5x samsung 1TB + 2x Seagate 1.5TB = 8 TB external storage 32 Bit OS vs 64 bit OS information How to get hardware accelerated H264 playback (DXVA) Netbook Owners United!

Apr 2, 2008, 09:57 PM	#24
mullered07 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,253 (0.98/day) Thanks: 65 Thanked 206 Times in 170 Posts System Specs	just back up what u need to keep and do a fresh install, what do you expect ur hdd has 8mb cache and is prolly clunking itself to death, you need to clear all the crap off it and perform a clean install simple

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