8500/8600/GT/GTS Mod guide...

[Dobbie]

Originally Posted by wolf

for some reason my 8800Gt wont boot in any system with the quad core overclocked, it always makes it screw up and revert to 2.4ghz, thus my 9600GT is currently my fastest card, which is weird cos my 8800GT is 800/2000/1900 and with the quad at 3.6 should be looking at near 15k 3dmakrs. any ideas on why a mobo oc is sensitive to a gfx card sol?

Try making sure that the PCI-E freq is set to 100. Make sure that all voltages and freq are set by you and not on auto. With the OC cpu, your board might be clocking up something that the card can't handle and thats why PCI-E freq seems like the most likely cause.

You could try base clocks and try OC the cpu slowly and see at which point the card stops responding. Write down the clocks to refer to when this happens.

[Scrizz]

how does two dead X1800XLs sound

[Dobbie]

Originally Posted by Scrizz

how does two dead X1800XLs sound

That sounds like you were drinking and OC too much

[wolf]

not enough oc vitamins

[Dobbie]

Did you get the card working right with the OC?

[Scrizz]

Originally Posted by wolf

not enough oc vitamins

yeah I forgot to take my OC OJ

[wolf]

i would have gotten it working fine, if i hadn't already swapped it for a 9800GTX

[Scrizz]

I can't w8 to get my HD4870x2....

[wolf]

why would you buy that? nvidias next gen will probably woop it, not to mention a single gpu solution will always be better than a dual.

[Scrizz]

b/c why would you get a 9800gtx when a g92..... $$$ me want 9600gt?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Scrizz

b/c why would you get a 9800gtx when a g92..... $$$ me want 9600gt?

what?? that didnt make sense

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by wolf

why would you buy that? nvidias next gen will probably woop it, not to mention a single gpu solution will always be better than a dual.

why woudl a single gpu always be better than dual that doesn't make any sense. did you forget these aren't like the nv dual cards they are actually thought out and well planned not just 2 gpus taped together

[wolf]

Originally Posted by cdawall

why woudl a single gpu always be better than dual that doesn't make any sense. did you forget these aren't like the nv dual cards they are actually thought out and well planned not just 2 gpus taped together

well it must work because their 2 gpu's "taped" together whips ati's 2 that are "well planned" lol.

and what i mean about the single gpu remark is that a better gpu will always work better than 2 worse ones. obviously per say 2x8800GT will outperform one.

for example ill compare 2x8600GT with one 9600GT. one 8600GT is exactly half of the 9600GT, with 8 ROPS, 32 shaders, and a 128 bit bus, but when in SLi they wont perform as well as one 9600GT (assuming clocks are the same). therefore the single card is better than 2.

and here in aus the 3870 can be had at ~200$ whereas the X2 is ~600$, not to mention an X2 does not run games twice as fast as a single card. so the single card is waaaaaaay better value for money ($$ for FPS)

what im suggesting is to wait for a single card that is as beefy as 2 are now, for example an nvidia card with 32 ROPS, 256 shaders, and 1024mb of vram over a 512-bit bus, as oppose to a GX2 (just an example)

so far the rumors indicate that the 4xxx series will be up to 50% faster than the 3xxx series. at least the rumors of nvidias new gpu make it seem like a true generational leap, as oppose to the revision war thats been going on, not that it works out bad for us consumers

[Dobbie]

Originally Posted by wolf

i would have gotten it working fine, if i hadn't already swapped it for a 9800GTX

9800 GTX.............I want one

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Dobbie

9800 GTX.............I want one

so cheap, so good, cant argue with over 16k 3dmarks. no game i have tried at 1600x1200 + AA has put it thru its paces yet.

[Dobbie]

Originally Posted by wolf

so cheap, so good, cant argue with over 16k 3dmarks. no game i have tried at 1600x1200 + AA has put it thru its paces yet.

nice. I might OC my new 8800 GTS 320 thats on it's way and sell it and get one myself

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by wolf

well it must work because their 2 gpu's "taped" together whips ati's 2 that are "well planned" lol.

and what i mean about the single gpu remark is that a better gpu will always work better than 2 worse ones. obviously per say 2x8800GT will outperform one.

for example ill compare 2x8600GT with one 9600GT. one 8600GT is exactly half of the 9600GT, with 8 ROPS, 32 shaders, and a 128 bit bus, but when in SLi they wont perform as well as one 9600GT (assuming clocks are the same). therefore the single card is better than 2.

and here in aus the 3870 can be had at ~200$ whereas the X2 is ~600$, not to mention an X2 does not run games twice as fast as a single card. so the single card is waaaaaaay better value for money ($$ for FPS)

what im suggesting is to wait for a single card that is as beefy as 2 are now, for example an nvidia card with 32 ROPS, 256 shaders, and 1024mb of vram over a 512-bit bus, as oppose to a GX2 (just an example)

so far the rumors indicate that the 4xxx series will be up to 50% faster than the 3xxx series. at least the rumors of nvidias new gpu make it seem like a true generational leap, as oppose to the revision war thats been going on, not that it works out bad for us consumers

no not quite

http://fxvideocards.com/MSI-Radeon-H...E-p-16260.html
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-...f2f7408fe04ee0


$425 fro the X2 $170 for the single while its not exactly scaled you do get the abilty to run 4 gpus on a dual board which is going to be well past what you can do on 2x 3870s or you could get an X2 and a single and have trifire on the cheap which ALSO BEATS A PAIR.

the comment on nv's card is stupid everyone knows that it beats theX2 and everyone knows a 8800GTS G92 beats the 3870 so why point it out? its still a bad design

2x 8600GTS is not the same as a single 9600GT the are 2 way different cores with different mem buses which a pair of doesn't make it 256bit


however on the wait for the new gpus i do agree with not on the same principles but hey the ideas the same

[Solaris17]

did i miss the memo were we were talking about ATI and 8800/9 series cards in this thread?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

did i miss the memo were we were talking about ATI and 8800/9 series cards in this thread?

obviously

Originally Posted by cdawall

2x 8600GTS is not the same as a single 9600GT the are 2 way different cores with different mem buses which a pair of doesn't make it 256bit

thats pretty much my point.....

Originally Posted by cdawall

the comment on nv's card is stupid everyone knows that it beats theX2 and everyone knows a 8800GTS G92 beats the 3870 so why point it out? its still a bad design

i don't get it man? if everyone knows its better then why is it a bad design? since they cheaped out and slammed 2 together and it STILL beats ATI's heavily R&D'd card, doesn't that make it a BETTER design? it does imo.

[Solaris17]

o cool my bad i hadent noticed take a look at this

8500/8600/GT/GTS Mod guide

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by wolf

thats pretty much my point.....

but they are way different designs thats like comparing a pair of 6600s to a 7800GT

Originally Posted by wolf

i don't get it man? if everyone knows its better then why is it a bad design? since they cheaped out and slammed 2 together and it STILL beats ATI's heavily R&D'd card, doesn't that make it a BETTER design? it does imo.

it makes the core a better design not the card G92 beats R670 its as simple as that, but if you look ATi's design can be more easily cooled and is alot easier to mod hence better design IMO. also 6x 3870 beats 4x 8800GTS

[Solaris17]

can we play not highjack my thread? sry the nice posts didnt seem 2 work

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

can we play not highjack my thread? sry the nice posts didnt seem 2 work

sorry sol

[Solaris17]

its ok cdawall i still love you

[Scrizz]

Originally Posted by wolf

what?? that didnt make sense

I know. I was just over you getting a 9800gtx

Sorry Solaris17 I'm the one guilty for starting all the ATI stuff