Super Talent Launches 2.5-inch SATA SSDs for Notebooks

[malware]

Super Talent Technology, a leading manufacturer of Flash storage solutions and DRAM memory modules, today launched a new line of MasterDrive solid state drives (SSDs) that are 100% interchangeable with hard disk drives (HDDs) but are faster, lighter, use less power and are far more rugged and reliable. MasterDrive SSDs use a SATA (3Gbps) interface and have a standard 2.5-inch form factor.



MasterDrive DX drives employ SLC NAND Flash and support sequential read and write speeds up to 120 and 70MB/sec respectively, and are backed by a three year warranty. MasterDrive MX drives use MLC Flash to achieve maximum sequential read/write speeds of 120 and 40 MB/sec, and include a 1-year warranty. They are available now from NewEgg and eWiz.



Source: Super Talent

[lemonadesoda]

Originally Posted by malware

S...that are 100% interchangeable with hard disk drives (HDDs) but are faster, lighter, use less power and are far more rugged and reliable. MasterDrive SSDs use a SATA (3Gbps) interface and have a standard 2.5-inch form factor to fit in every notebook.

Funny. "Every notebook", "100% interchangeable".

Since 90% of existing laptops (I'm not talking about new ones, I'm talking about existing laptops ... laptops where people might want to "interchange" or upgrade their HDD) are in fact 2.5" IDE, then they arent going to work very well, are they? LOL.

[malware]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

Funny. "Every notebook", "100% interchangeable".

Since 90% of existing laptops (I'm not talking about new ones, I'm talking about existing laptops ... laptops where people might want to "interchange" or upgrade their HDD) are in fact 2.5" IDE, then they arent going to work very well, are they? LOL.

I don't get it, but if that's your word let it be ... it's changed now. I was talking about the HDD fitting as standard 2.5-inch laptop device, of course if you have a DDR slot you won't be attempting to insert DDR2/3 part in it, the same applies to SATA and PATA drives, but all these SATA SSDs are 100% compatible with every SATA 2.5-inch laptop (at least that's what SuperT says).

[Drac]

Originally Posted by malware

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still much expensive and not sure if "these" are better than a normal HDD as they say.

[jydie]

Geesh... for the price you pay, a 1 year warranty seems really weak. I will not even consider upgrading my laptop yet... these SSD drives are WAY to expensive.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

Funny. "Every notebook", "100% interchangeable".

Since 90% of existing laptops (I'm not talking about new ones, I'm talking about existing laptops ... laptops where people might want to "interchange" or upgrade their HDD) are in fact 2.5" IDE, then they arent going to work very well, are they? LOL.

infact...

most EXISTING notebooks are SATA - i bought my laptop back in 2006 & its sata.

ok maybe not most but a great majority of them are - check on scanpc & overclockers.co.uk most of the stuff they sell are for sata maybe with a few IDE flavours around.

[lemonadesoda]

OK, this isnt a very thorough test, but I just looked at the following laptops SOLD TODAY:

Macbook / macbook AIR = PATA (**NO DONT START** LOL)
Sony Vaio TZ range = PATA
Many ultra-laptops = PATA
Most "power laptop/desktop" things = SATA

Also, since SATA 2.5" was launched mid 2006, then, in practice, SATA only become common in laptops from end 2006 onwards. To say that "most EXISTING notebooks are SATA" requires the following statement to be true "most EXISTING notebooks are one year old or less" (give or take a few months). And I cant agree with that. I would say that MOST laptops are more than a year old, OR, are one of the laptops listed above, and are therefore STILL PATA.

P.S. Not trying to argue... just pointing out some facts.

[FatForester]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

OK, this isnt a very thorough test, but I just looked at the following laptops SOLD TODAY:

Macbook / macbook AIR = PATA (**NO DONT START** LOL)
Sony Vaio TZ range = PATA
Many ultra-laptops = PATA
Most "power laptop/desktop" things = SATA

Also, since SATA 2.5" was launched mid 2006, then, in practice, SATA only become common in laptops from end 2006 onwards. To say that "most EXISTING notebooks are SATA" requires the following statement to be true "most EXISTING notebooks are one year old or less" (give or take a few months). And I cant agree with that. I would say that MOST laptops are more than a year old, OR, are one of the laptops listed above, and are therefore STILL PATA.

P.S. Not trying to argue... just pointing out some facts.

Tossing CAPS lock and some sass around then saying "I'm not trying to argue" is the perfect way to start an argument.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

OK, this isnt a very thorough test, but I just looked at the following laptops SOLD TODAY:

Macbook / macbook AIR = PATA (**NO DONT START** LOL)
Sony Vaio TZ range = PATA
Many ultra-laptops = PATA
Most "power laptop/desktop" things = SATA

Also, since SATA 2.5" was launched mid 2006, then, in practice, SATA only become common in laptops from end 2006 onwards. To say that "most EXISTING notebooks are SATA" requires the following statement to be true "most EXISTING notebooks are one year old or less" (give or take a few months). And I cant agree with that. I would say that MOST laptops are more than a year old, OR, are one of the laptops listed above, and are therefore STILL PATA.

P.S. Not trying to argue... just pointing out some facts.

based on the following laptops today??? what are your sources??? put up a link or something otherwise your claims are just as good as a chocolate teapot

[lemonadesoda]

Originally Posted by FatForester

Tossing CAPS lock and some sass around then saying "I'm not trying to argue" is the perfect way to start an argument.

When I laugh, i LOL, i dont snicker, whisper, or act emo. When I LOL, I ROARRRRRRR.................

If it upsets you, turn on your anti-caps-lock filter.

[lemonadesoda]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

based on the following laptops today??? what are your sources??? put up a link or something otherwise your claims are just as good as a chocolate teapot

Oh come on man. Everyone (I mean EVERYONE) knows the Apple Air is PATA. http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3287. And all you need to do is look at spec sheets for the other laptops I mentioned. Ultra DMA, or PATA, or UDMA4, 5 or 6 = IDE. If its SATA, it will say SATA.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

Oh come on man. Everyone (I mean EVERYONE) knows the Apple Air is PATA. http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3287. And all you need to do is look at spec sheets for the other laptops I mentioned. Ultra DMA, or PATA, or UDMA4, 5 or 6 = IDE. If its SATA, it will say SATA.

but hardly a few models of laptops suggest that EVERYONE is using pata/ide - i mean how many laptop manufacturers & laptop models are readily available & you take 4/5 brands/models & claim that if not all then everyone are still using pata/ide

you dont have any proof to back up your claim. whats the point of reading the spec sheets of the laptops you mentioned? yes they are ALL pata/ide but there are many other laptops that dont use pata/ide.

you cant just pull figures & percentages out of thin air just because the few laptops you have looked at are ide.

Im not trying to be an asshole or anything like that so if i seem like im trying to agrivate you i assure you i am not. Im just trying to get things cleard up

[Paulieg]

OK guys, bring it down a notch. Please.

[lemonadesoda]

Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

but hardly a few models of laptops suggest that EVERYONE is using pata/ide

...WTF? Who said EVERYONE was on PATA/IDE? My comment, if you would be so kind as to read before posting, was that it is not correct to say that EVERYONE is on SATA. OMG... I'm out of this discussion... bye.

[panchoman]

super talent is really coming up... they make awesome ddr3 ram and now sata ssds....

[Paulieg]

Originally Posted by panchoman

super talent is really coming up... they make awesome ddr3 ram and now sata ssds....

Yeah, they also made some awesome DDR2 that most people ignored. Ask Infrared about the 4GB DDR2 800 that I sold him. Truly awesome stuff. From a PM I received from him a couple of weeks ago, and I'm sure he won't mind me sharing:

"Well, i pushed them a little bit today!

@ 2.3v they'll do 1240mhz 5-5-5-12! Puts the current DDR3 performance to shame in the everest memory benchmarks! 10400mb/s Read, 9100mb/s Write!" -Infrared

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

...WTF? Who said EVERYONE was on PATA/IDE? My comment, if you would be so kind as to read before posting, was that it is not correct to say that EVERYONE is on SATA. OMG... I'm out of this discussion... bye.

your comment being that 90% of people were still on pata/ide.

thats like saying 1 in 5 people are using sata in their laptops which is incorrect & missleading - also as you still havent provided proof of your claim.

Im not asking for a complete wiki leech - just a page with results from an independant survey & not some figures you generated & assume to be correct

ok so maybe not EVERYONE but a GREATER MAJORITY are

[lemonadesoda]

http://www.researchandmarkets.com/re..._2006_2007.pdf , http://www.linuxelectrons.com/news/h...-increase-2007, http://reports.idctracker.com/webdow...ecastfinal.pdf, etc. etc. etc.

Global Laptop Sales

2001 = 29 million
2002 = 34 million
2003 = 40 million
2004 = 50 million
2005 = 58 million
2006 = 82 million
2007 = 105 million
2008Q1 = 25 million

All laptops prior to mid 2006 were PATA.
Laptops since mid 2006 are mixed (lets say 50/50 PATA/SATA on average as an assumption)
What's the figure in 2008? Probably majority SATA, but still a lot of PATA in new devices.

TOTAL PATA = 336 million excluding all laptops prior to 2001 (79%)
TOTAL SATA = 87 million (21%)

The majority of laptops in existance have PATA drives. QED.

[FatForester]

Originally Posted by lemonadesoda

When I laugh, i LOL, i dont snicker, whisper, or act emo. When I LOL, I ROARRRRRRR.................

...

You're really taking it personally that Super Talent is making SSD's. Their statement can be misleading if you misquote it like you have, but they're obviously talking about SATA drives. I'm pretty sure that someone who is wanting to spend 600+ dollars on a hard drive will know what interface is in their laptop, not to mention the people that can afford it right now will most likely have a system newer than 2006. So although there are existing laptops that use PATA, your argument is pretty moot. Of all the places for someone to get offended, it has to be in a thread talking about SSD's...

[lemonadesoda]

LOL.

#1, all I said is that these devices cannot be used to upgrade EVERY laptop, which is what was in the OP. Malware also saw the peculiarity of the over-generalised statement and editted the news post. +1 to the news editor.

#2, peeps come in here and start bashing me for just pointing out that the information, as presented, wasnt logical

#3, peeps ask for what I consider to be unnecessay proof that the majority of existing laptops are PATA

#4, to help show a few newbies that laptops have been around for a lot longer than they have been drinking beer, and the numbers easily show a lot of PATAs are out there. And Mr. "Show me show me or I no believe you nah-nah" gets pwnd.

#5, then through some logic I cannot fathom, (but then again, I am only a regular bloke and cannot read the minds of the opposite sex), someone says I'm personally against Super Talent and SDDs. WTF?

OMG... there's a few people here that wont be getting a college scholarship! I'll definitely be putting a copy of this thread in the box marked cloud-cuckoo-land.

OVER AND OUT

[infrared]

Originally Posted by Paulieg

Yeah, they also made some awesome DDR2 that most people ignored. Ask Infrared about the 4GB DDR2 800 that I sold him. Truly awesome stuff. From a PM I received from him a couple of weeks ago, and I'm sure he won't mind me sharing:

"Well, i pushed them a little bit today!

@ 2.3v they'll do 1240mhz 5-5-5-12! Puts the current DDR3 performance to shame in the everest memory benchmarks! 10400mb/s Read, 9100mb/s Write!" -Infrared

Yep, that's some wicked ram!!

I'd love to get my hands on an SSD, I'll bet it won't be long before they become more affordable.

[FatForester]

lemonade, I never said I disagreed with you, I was saying your point is moot. Oh yea, Super Talent definitely could have worded it better to avoid confusion, but in the end it is all just marketing and PR. Advertisements everywhere do this all the time, even though in this case there are still millions of older (and some newer) laptops using PATA that Super Talent didn't take into account. About the you personally getting offended, I wasn't actually being serious, it was just really bad timing for sarcasm. Hopefully that clears some things up, as my intentions weren't to add fuel to the fire even though it came off that way.

Oh yea: About your little joke with me being too mental to get scholarships- I'm getting paid to go to college right now.