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Old May 8, 2008, 02:11 PM   #1
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$2000 Budget Build:AMD/Intel+Nvidia

Im planning on building a new machine in August/September, and Im planning on only putting AMD/INtel and Nvida Products.And I can go Intel, but no ATI,and I have $2000 budget. Do you have any suggestions, or any pointers?This is what Im planning to put into it. And adding Vista Ultimate 64.

Antec 900 Case
ASUS CROSSHAIR AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813131593
XFX PVT98FYDF9 GeForce 9800 GTX(G92):
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Antec TruePower Quattro TPQ-1000 1000W:
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OCZ SLI-Ready Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820227269
Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10000 RPM:
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LITE-ON Black 20X:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827106072
ZALMAN CNPS9700:
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That's a long ways away in the PC world. All the parts would be different by then.
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i would go intel 45nm and wait till august/sept before choosing parts as new products are constantly being released.
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raptors are to expensive. get a 7200.11 or a samsung singpoint F1 drive. they are almost or as fast a raptor
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raptors are to expensive. get a 7200.11 or a samsung singpoint F1 drive. they are almost or as fast a raptor
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Old May 8, 2008, 02:50 PM   #6
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Yea, waiting til' August/September will mean that really none of this will be the same. By then Nehalem will hopefully be pretty close, so the older LGA775 stuff should go down in price. If the machine in your specs is what you're upgrading, then it's already plenty fast as-is (at least in standards anyways..). If you want to see a performance boost, you'll want to go Intel.

Oh yea, stay away from Raptors. They're nice if you wanna blow the money on them, but the gains aren't really worth the price jump. You could RAID 2x500GB's and have better performance and more space for the same price.
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Old May 8, 2008, 02:52 PM   #7
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that proc will bottlneck your card.
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Old May 8, 2008, 03:38 PM   #8
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i say, wait til end 2008 and get your self an high end core2 system or nehalem
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Old May 8, 2008, 04:31 PM   #9
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try this
case: antec 900 140$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129021

hsf: xigmatek hdt1283 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233012

mobo: EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 780i 260$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188024

ram: 2xG.SKILL 4GB 1066 300$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231166

video: 2xevga 9800GTX 600$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130339

hdd: 500gb 100$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148288

psu: corsair 1000hx 300$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139007

cpu: quad 9300 285$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115043


total: 2025$

this is far far better of your rig, but maybe you should wait till the end of the month to see if ati fourth serie is good as it seems to be.
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Old May 9, 2008, 01:04 PM   #10
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Yeah after reading all of your replies I reconfigured my list, and found out that I was waisting alot of money for what I was planning on putting in there. So here is my reconfigured.

Antec 900 Case
XFX MB-N780-ISH9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813141005
2x XFX PVT98FYDFU GeForce 9800 GTX(G92):
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814150291
Antec TruePower Quattro TPQ-1000 1000W:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16817371012
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115037
OCZ SLI-Ready Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820227269
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822152052
HP Black 20X:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827140026
ZALMAN CNPS9700:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16835118019
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16832116493



And with this later on I can purchase another 9800GTX and tri-sli.
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Tri SLI wont be effictive on any build this year. Sad but true...
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yeah, thats really better, but i still dont like that PSU: it isnt modular and has four 12V rails. Thats not good (see reviews). The corsair 1000 is just amazing

and i HATE ocz memory, but if you dont want to OC, they will work great. Just they arent overclocking monsters. For your budget i'd catch a 1066mhz memory kit

as you can see at frostytech.com, the HDT is better and cheaper then the zalman

evga and xfx are both fantastic, just a bios difference i think. evga has the step-up program (http://www.evga.com/stepup/), while xfx has far superior warranty

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stick with a higher clocking ram kit in 2x1gb variant for more performance...
odin, the antec is indeed modular, as for it compared to the corsair, there is no comparison, in price or performance, you can get the antec for as little as $160 if you look, whereas the corsair is $300
as for you video cards, please I beg you do not spending $600 freaking dollars on 2x 9800GTXs, if anything just get a GX2 and keep your options open, you could get 2x 8800GTS G92s for 2/3rds the price of 2x 9800GTXs and you'd have the same perf.
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Sycth has some sick CPU colers. www.frozencpu.com is a 'cool' site too.

If your going for the e8xxx series, I would save the money and go for the 8200, less MHz out of the gate, but neither can get a 200% OC. You can push a 8200 well into the high 3's. Sure the 8400 can push a half a GHz farther, but there putting out a e8600 @ 3.3 GHz later this year.
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Don't try to part out a PC until you're ready to spend money. Prices drop like crazy over 6 months time, and new stuff will likely be released by both nVidia and ati by then. Over the past 3 months, I ended up with a decent rig, worth almost 300$ less than I paid for it. High-End rigs depreciate even faster.

Hang out at TPU for a few months, you'll have more than enough info when it comes time to build a PC.=)
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1000 Watts? thats too much for a 9800GTX and a windsor.
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yeah, thats really better, but i still dont like that PSU: it isnt modular and has four 12V rails. Thats not good (see reviews). The corsair 1000 is just amazing

and i HATE ocz memory, but if you dont want to OC, they will work great. Just they arent overclocking monsters. For your budget i'd catch a 1066mhz memory kit

as you can see at frostytech.com, the HDT is better and cheaper then the zalman

evga and xfx are both fantastic, just a bios difference i think. evga has the step-up program (http://www.evga.com/stepup/), while xfx has far superior warranty
Im a fan of OCZ, and Im not planning OC the memory. Just the CPU and maybe the GPU's.
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Im a fan of OCZ, and Im not planning OC the memory. Just the CPU and maybe the GPU's.
you have to OC the ram in some cases for some cpu overclocks depending on FSB and multiplier. or to just get a better ratio. the closer you at to 1:1 the better performance you'll have.

so it's best to buy a better kit so you have some overhead for cpu overclocks.
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I would opt for a better power supply, better chip cooling *if you are overclocking*.
Get a Samsung DVD/RW, they are on of the top rated and fastest according to the guys over at cdfreaks or whatever that website is, I have used a few recently and am very pleased.
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I would opt for a better power supply, better chip cooling *if you are overclocking*.
Get a Samsung DVD/RW, they are on of the top rated and fastest according to the guys over at cdfreaks or whatever that website is, I have used a few recently and am very pleased.
a good power supply is a must for OCing, PCP&C ftw
also a good heatsink is very important. one of the Zalman CNPS serires is very good.


my Samsung SH-S183 just died on me so replaced it with a Asus.
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a good power supply is a must for OCing, PCP&C ftw
also a good heatsink is very important. one of the Zalman CNPS serires is very good.


my Samsung SH-S183 just died on me so replaced it with a Asus.
I agree w/the PSU dont fudge on just the wattage, check for a couple of other key features like 12V rails. A single rail system will preform better than a quad.
This forum guide might help.
I suggest a PCP&C 860 these things are crazy good! With 2x9800 you may need the monster 1.2 KW! Sick!
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Well I sold out some extra pc's and parts and ect.... And now I have the money to buy some parts, so im planning on starting to buy the mobo and cpu, should I wait still, or go ahead and get the parts?
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Ok, ive been thinking, what would be better for gaming?
Asus Striker 2 Extreme 780i

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I just wanted to comment on your case selection. Antec 900 is an excellent case, however, for the kind of system you are building with an SLI config or even if you go with a single card i would strongly recomend a larger case. Something both longer and taller. Those cards will be a very tight fit in the 900 and will not get sufficent airflow. Same goes for your other system components, basically the bigger the case the better the airflow. I suggest you take a look at the likes of Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570, Thermaltake Armor and Armor+, Coolermaster Cosmos and the like. What you need is a full tower or a large mid-tower. Also, cases with PSU on the bottom have their disadvantages: cable managent and hiding is more difficult. I have a Silverstone TJ09 with PSU on the bottom and i have had this problem, now i wish i got the Coolermaster Stacker 830.

Also, as others have said get another PSU. Preferably w/ modular cabling. Corsair 1000w is a good choice. So is the Enermax Galaxy line, Silverstone Zeus and Decathlon series, Ultra X3, PC Power & Cooling Silencer Series, Turbo-Cool are also good but they are noisy.
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