help

javaking · May 15, 2008, 06:35 AM

trying to get this blasted 3800 cf to work on my board you can check my specs and see if it's my cpu or mb which I'am not trying to use crossfire

CrackerJack · May 15, 2008, 06:45 AM

are you sure you have the 939 3800+ and not the AM2

or are you talking about the 3800 series video cards?
if so, you can't crossfire!

javaking · May 15, 2008, 07:28 AM

It's a 939 socket processor amd and I have a ati3800 video card not trying to crossfire which I can't get to work peroid so I put evga 7100 back in

javaking · May 15, 2008, 07:29 AM

also I'am new at this forum thing

farlex85 · May 15, 2008, 07:35 AM

What card exactly is it? And is this the only problem? As in you put the 38xx in and it doesn't turn on at all, then you put in the 7100 and it boots right up?

javaking · May 15, 2008, 07:53 AM

it turns on but when I download the drivers from catalyst 8.4 and install thats when the problem starts it boots up before the install but after the pages loads times drop anywhere of 2min to 10 min and I had a first last of a black screen

Saakki · May 15, 2008, 07:57 AM

hopefully u removed old nvidia drivers before..im bit confused here

javaking · May 15, 2008, 07:58 AM

crackerjack may have given me some insight on what to do but if you have a system of how to cure my computer I'am listen everyone

javaking · May 15, 2008, 07:59 AM

yes I removed the old drivers before I took the 7100 out

javaking · May 15, 2008, 08:02 AM

my technical savy is limited but I'am learning by trial and error

farlex85 · May 15, 2008, 08:03 AM

Yeah I'm still confused too. So when you try to install the drivers, your computer reboots? Or your computer freezes? I can't tell what your saying.

javaking · May 15, 2008, 08:13 AM

It does not freeze at the reboot when I first put in the 38xx only after the drivers are installed and rebooted the second time for the drivers to take effect that everything goes crazy

farlex85 · May 15, 2008, 08:21 AM

Ok so you install the drivers, do a restart, and it gives a black screen? Hmmm. And what card is it exactly? 3650, 3850, 3870, 3870x2? Your doing this on vista business? It is possible thats causing a problem, but maybe not. Have you tried any other drivers? Do you know if it works with xp? Are you able to reformat and reinstall your os?

Your cpu will be a bottleneck for this card, whatever it is, but it should still work.

javaking · May 15, 2008, 08:32 AM

sapphire HD3870 512mb not the x2 version when my system locked up I did a clean re- install of OS reformatted the HDD's I have XP Home OS laying so your possibly saying that vista business may be what causing my problem and my other build has XP PRO

javaking · May 15, 2008, 08:34 AM

I may try that to see

javaking · May 15, 2008, 08:37 AM

and no I have not tried any other drivers I've seen some mention of an 8.49 and 8.50 catalyst drivers but I have yet to find them

farlex85 · May 15, 2008, 08:38 AM

Well its hard to say for sure. Gathering the info I think I've got, it seems that the problem only occurs when the drivers are installed, which suggests to me a software issue. You might want to try different drivers before xp.

Now, there is the issue of your psu too. Codegen as far as I know is not a very solid brand. Can you tell me how many amps are on the 12V rail? It will be plainly put on the side of the psu. Its likely those are too low for a 3870 and are pushing it too much. And of course you are plugging in the pci connector right?

javaking · May 15, 2008, 08:48 AM

you are probably right it may be the power supply Straight down from the 12v under it I'am reading 12amps the 12v reads 15amps

farlex85 · May 15, 2008, 08:56 AM

Yeah thats low. The 3870 I think uses a little over 10 itself, but if your dealing w/ a crappy psu they often perform under what they are rated for, so that may be whats going on. Be careful w/ that too, b/c a failing psu can take other prisoners w/ it, and that 3870 may not work at all.

Still, if you plugged in the pci connector to the end of the card, and it worked fine until the drivers, it seems like it could be software related. However, considering a poor psu is nothing to play around w/, I would suggest investing in a solid 450-500w psu, from a solid brand.

Read through this guide, and pick a good brand w/ solid amps on the 12v rail (30+).

javaking · May 15, 2008, 09:06 AM

that would save me some money if it's the psu which I hope it is because this is suppose to be a 450w psu but now I'am reading (3.3v&+5v,=235W max,+12v&12v,+320W max all output extended to450W max) that is what it reads at the bottom of psu

farlex85 · May 15, 2008, 09:19 AM

Yeah get a new one definately. Thats probably what the problem is, and even if it isn't, a new psu would be a very good idea.

May 15, 2008, 06:35 AM	#1
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	help trying to get this blasted 3800 cf to work on my board you can check my specs and see if it's my cpu or mb which I'am not trying to use crossfire

Processor:	B93 x4 AMD
Motherboard:	biostar 790GX 128M
Cooling:	CM Hyper 212 EVO
Memory:	8 gb Gskill pc8500 1066 4x2
Video Card:	XFX HD6870 1gb
Hard Disk:	corsairs vertex2 ssd 60gb,seagate750
Optical Drive:	Liteon DVD/CD
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung Syncmaster 943BSW
Case:	NZXT beta evo,
Sound Card:	on board
PSU:	TX Corsairs 750 Watt
Software:	W7x64

System Name:	Mine \| Daughter \| Wife
Processor:	FX-8120 4.2GHz \| Phenom II 955 BE \| E450
Motherboard:	GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 \| GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-DS4 \| Laptop
Cooling:	H80 COUGAR CF-V12HP (x2)\| OEM \| Latop
Memory:	G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB DDR3 1600 \| ADATA 2Gb DDR2 800 \| G.SKILL 6gb DDR3 1333
Video Card:	ASUS GTX 660 Ti \| HD 6870 \| HD6320
Hard Disk:	Corsair Force Series GT 120GB (OS) + WD 320GB + WD 1TB \| 500GB \| 320GB
Optical Drive:	Lite-On\| LG \| Built-In
CRT/LCD Model:	ASUS 24" VW246H \| HP 19" f1905 \| 15.6"
Case:	CM Storm \| Cooler Master \| A53U-EH2
Sound Card:	Onboard \| Onboard \| Onboard
PSU:	Corsair TX750\| Corsair CX600 \| Laptop
Software:	7 Home 64-Bit \| 7 Home 64-Bit \| 7 Home 64-Bit

May 15, 2008, 07:28 AM	#3
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	help It's a 939 socket processor amd and I have a ati3800 video card not trying to crossfire which I can't get to work peroid so I put evga 7100 back in

Processor:	B93 x4 AMD
Motherboard:	biostar 790GX 128M
Cooling:	CM Hyper 212 EVO
Memory:	8 gb Gskill pc8500 1066 4x2
Video Card:	XFX HD6870 1gb
Hard Disk:	corsairs vertex2 ssd 60gb,seagate750
Optical Drive:	Liteon DVD/CD
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung Syncmaster 943BSW
Case:	NZXT beta evo,
Sound Card:	on board
PSU:	TX Corsairs 750 Watt
Software:	W7x64

May 15, 2008, 06:45 AM	#2
CrackerJack Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East TN Posts: 2,392 (1.20/day) Thanks: 408 Thanked 439 Times in 342 Posts System Specs	are you sure you have the 939 3800+ and not the AM2 or are you talking about the 3800 series video cards? if so, you can't crossfire!

May 15, 2008, 07:29 AM	#4
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	also I'am new at this forum thing

May 15, 2008, 07:35 AM	#5
farlex85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,114 (1.83/day) Thanks: 369 Thanked 647 Times in 612 Posts System Specs	What card exactly is it? And is this the only problem? As in you put the 38xx in and it doesn't turn on at all, then you put in the 7100 and it boots right up?

Processor:	Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 3.65ghz 1.18v
Motherboard:	Gigabyte P35-DS3R (v2.1)
Cooling:	Sunbeam Core Contact CR-CCTF, stock tempest cooling atm (6x120mm fans)
Memory:	2x2gb G.Skill PC8000 @ 1018Mhz 5-5-5-15-2T 2.1v
Video Card:	XFX 6850
Hard Disk:	Raptor X 150gb, SE 250gb, SE16 320gb and 640gb, RE 2TB
Optical Drive:	LG Blu-ray burner, 20x Lite-On DVD burner
CRT/LCD Model:	22" Samsung 2232BW 2ms
Case:	NXZT Tempest
Sound Card:	FireStudio Project
PSU:	OCZ GameXstream 700W
Software:	7 Home Premium x64

May 15, 2008, 07:53 AM	#6
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	it turns on but when I download the drivers from catalyst 8.4 and install thats when the problem starts it boots up before the install but after the pages loads times drop anywhere of 2min to 10 min and I had a first last of a black screen

May 15, 2008, 07:57 AM	#7
Saakki Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 285 (0.15/day) Thanks: 36 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts System Specs	hopefully u removed old nvidia drivers before..im bit confused here __________________ Power UP, Gamers says Guimo

System Name:	JGG
Processor:	Q6600 @ 3,4ghz
Motherboard:	Rampage Formula
Cooling:	Xigmatek, Nexus
Memory:	1100 mhz Pi
Video Card:	6950 + Accelero Xtreme Plus
Hard Disk:	1tb+1tb
Optical Drive:	LG DVD RW dl plus Samsung DVD RW dl
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer 19" LCD 5ms + 17 " Hitachi
Case:	Fractal Design Define R2
Sound Card:	X-FI
PSU:	XFX Core 650
Software:	Win 7 ultimate x64
Benchmarks:	Q6600 @ 3.5 ghz + and 6950 @ 6970 +

May 15, 2008, 07:58 AM	#8
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	crackerjack may have given me some insight on what to do but if you have a system of how to cure my computer I'am listen everyone

May 15, 2008, 07:59 AM	#9
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	yes I removed the old drivers before I took the 7100 out

May 15, 2008, 08:02 AM	#10
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	my technical savy is limited but I'am learning by trial and error

May 15, 2008, 08:03 AM	#11
farlex85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,114 (1.83/day) Thanks: 369 Thanked 647 Times in 612 Posts System Specs	Yeah I'm still confused too. So when you try to install the drivers, your computer reboots? Or your computer freezes? I can't tell what your saying.

May 15, 2008, 08:13 AM	#12
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	It does not freeze at the reboot when I first put in the 38xx only after the drivers are installed and rebooted the second time for the drivers to take effect that everything goes crazy Last edited by javaking; May 15, 2008 at 08:21 AM. Reason: adding a few words

May 15, 2008, 08:21 AM	#13
farlex85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,114 (1.83/day) Thanks: 369 Thanked 647 Times in 612 Posts System Specs	Ok so you install the drivers, do a restart, and it gives a black screen? Hmmm. And what card is it exactly? 3650, 3850, 3870, 3870x2? Your doing this on vista business? It is possible thats causing a problem, but maybe not. Have you tried any other drivers? Do you know if it works with xp? Are you able to reformat and reinstall your os? Your cpu will be a bottleneck for this card, whatever it is, but it should still work. Last edited by farlex85; May 15, 2008 at 08:30 AM.

May 15, 2008, 08:32 AM	#14
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	sapphire HD3870 512mb not the x2 version when my system locked up I did a clean re- install of OS reformatted the HDD's I have XP Home OS laying so your possibly saying that vista business may be what causing my problem and my other build has XP PRO

May 15, 2008, 08:34 AM	#15
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	I may try that to see

May 15, 2008, 08:37 AM	#16
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	and no I have not tried any other drivers I've seen some mention of an 8.49 and 8.50 catalyst drivers but I have yet to find them

May 15, 2008, 08:38 AM	#17
farlex85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,114 (1.83/day) Thanks: 369 Thanked 647 Times in 612 Posts System Specs	Well its hard to say for sure. Gathering the info I think I've got, it seems that the problem only occurs when the drivers are installed, which suggests to me a software issue. You might want to try different drivers before xp. Now, there is the issue of your psu too. Codegen as far as I know is not a very solid brand. Can you tell me how many amps are on the 12V rail? It will be plainly put on the side of the psu. Its likely those are too low for a 3870 and are pushing it too much. And of course you are plugging in the pci connector right?

May 15, 2008, 08:48 AM	#18
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	you are probably right it may be the power supply Straight down from the 12v under it I'am reading 12amps the 12v reads 15amps

May 15, 2008, 08:56 AM	#19
farlex85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,114 (1.83/day) Thanks: 369 Thanked 647 Times in 612 Posts System Specs	Yeah thats low. The 3870 I think uses a little over 10 itself, but if your dealing w/ a crappy psu they often perform under what they are rated for, so that may be whats going on. Be careful w/ that too, b/c a failing psu can take other prisoners w/ it, and that 3870 may not work at all. Still, if you plugged in the pci connector to the end of the card, and it worked fine until the drivers, it seems like it could be software related. However, considering a poor psu is nothing to play around w/, I would suggest investing in a solid 450-500w psu, from a solid brand. Read through this guide, and pick a good brand w/ solid amps on the 12v rail (30+). Last edited by farlex85; May 15, 2008 at 09:26 AM.

May 15, 2008, 09:06 AM	#20
javaking Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calumet City,IL Posts: 61 (0.03/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	that would save me some money if it's the psu which I hope it is because this is suppose to be a 450w psu but now I'am reading (3.3v&+5v,=235W max,+12v&12v,+320W max all output extended to450W max) that is what it reads at the bottom of psu

May 15, 2008, 09:19 AM	#21
farlex85 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,114 (1.83/day) Thanks: 369 Thanked 647 Times in 612 Posts System Specs	Yeah get a new one definately. Thats probably what the problem is, and even if it isn't, a new psu would be a very good idea.

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