ASUS Official Response on GIGABYTE Faulty Claims

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ASUS today issued a statement in regard to the GIGABYTE claims posted here.

It has come to our attention that a certain Taiwanese Motherboard Manufacturer has made false claims against ASUS motherboards. These claims have given rise to false information being communicated in both the mainstream media and technology channels. ASUS wishes to clarify the issues and so avoid any further confusion. After investigation, it is clear that this company in question made use of a sponsored gathering of local and international media to deliberately spread information that we consider both untrue and without credible verification. This “disinformation” is not only extremely damaging to ASUS but also completely misleading to the consumers.

ASUS reserves the right to take legal action against any individual, organization or corporation which creates or spreads such rumors.

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Source: ASUS

[a111087]

heh, now tell me who is lying?

[Exavier]

It's like Asus are slamming Gigabyte just by calling them "a certain Taiwanese Motherboard Manufacturer"
feel the burn, haha
I don't think there's anything wrong with Asus at all, their new P45 lineup looks pretty nice tbh, as does the Formula series in X38/48..

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

All that sounds like when i ask someone the time and they give me a history lesson.

[imperialreign]

huh . . . ASUS is only talking about the P5Q series, although the high-end P5E series have EPU as well . . .


hmmm . . . I wonder why ASUS is only going on about it's new series . . .

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Originally Posted by imperialreign

huh . . . ASUS is only talking about the P5Q series, although the high-end P5E series have EPU as well . . .


hmmm . . . I wonder why ASUS is only going on about it's new series . . .

exactly .. smoke and mirrors ... boo for ASSUS

[Silverel]

Funny how their entire "response" just looks like a press release for a new product. Doesn't seem to be anything at all in here besides the quote. Whenever they would like to actually explain something, I'm sure we'll all be waiting.

It's like Marketing is answering the Customer Service lines or something.
I don't want you to try and sell me the board again, just throw down some facts as to how Gigabyte is wrong.

[newtekie1]

I like how ASUS did their anouncement with some class, and Gigabyte just came out and called them liars. I wouldn't buy a Gigabyte board anyway, but after their little childish stunt, I definitely don't want to give them any business.

It is one thing to talk about the compeition and present information in a classy method, it is another to just call them liars and attack them. Gigabyte's media stunt just backfired on them because it lost them respect from me, and I'm sure many others, and ASUS's response gained them more respect from me. Gigabyte's oriignal attack sounds like a fanboy postings on a forum.

[niko084]

Was waiting for that one.... Wonder if we will see a slander suit.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

I like how ASUS did their anouncement with some class, and Gigabyte just came out and called them liars. I wouldn't buy a Gigabyte board anyway, but after their little childish stunt, I definitely don't want to give them any business.

It is one thing to talk about the compeition and present information in a classy method, it is another to just call them liars and attack them. Gigabyte's media stunt just backfired on them because it lost them respect from me, and I'm sure many others, and ASUS's response gained them more respect from me. Gigabyte's oriignal attack sounds like a fanboy postings on a forum.

Classy, that asus release is classy yes but classy what? It does not address the problem.

[niko084]

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

Classy, that asus release is classy yes but classy what? It does not address the problem.

Ya, thats exactly the problem... Although I do love the way they didn't directly quote that it was Gigabytes claims.

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[imperialreign]

Originally Posted by niko084

Was waiting for that one.... Wonder if we will see a slander suit.

yeah, but the funny thing about it, though - from the articles I posted in the EPU vx DES thread, ASUS started this whole mess by calling GIGA as being liars and full of crap - they just did it under the table and quietly. GIGA responded publicly about it, and quite poorly at that, and now ASUS is acting all reserved and professional.

Both companies have stuck their foot in their mouth, IMO.


Other motherboard manufacturers need to hurry up with their high-end competition so that ASUS and GIGA can get back to work instead of acting childish and trying to prove the other is full of shit.

[OnionMan]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

I like how ASUS did their anouncement with some class, and Gigabyte just came out and called them liars. I wouldn't buy a Gigabyte board anyway, but after their little childish stunt, I definitely don't want to give them any business.

It is one thing to talk about the compeition and present information in a classy method, it is another to just call them liars and attack them. Gigabyte's media stunt just backfired on them because it lost them respect from me, and I'm sure many others, and ASUS's response gained them more respect from me. Gigabyte's oriignal attack sounds like a fanboy postings on a forum.

I couldn't disagree more...

Asus gave a response that seems to be right from the side of the box.. WooHoo.. They haven't provided anything but words to back up their claims, where as Gigabyte (via Tom's Hardware) provided photos and a bit more tech. information..

I doubt a company as big as Gigabyte would just make something up like this to push sales in their direction.. There is too big of a risk of backfire for them if it's just an unsubstanciated claim.. Then the accused company does nothing to provide proof that things work.. Not to mention, Asus referenced a model that wasn't mentioned in the Tom's Hardware report.. Hmmmm

If Asus wanted to clear things up, they should have provided better information then what they did..

[niko084]

Originally Posted by imperialreign

yeah, but the funny thing about it, though - from the articles I posted in the EPU vx DES thread, ASUS started this whole mess by calling GIGA as being liars and full of crap - they just did it under the table and quietly. GIGA responded publicly about it, and quite poorly at that, and now ASUS is acting all reserved and professional.

Both companies have stuck their foot in their mouth, IMO.


Other motherboard manufacturers need to hurry up with their high-end competition so that ASUS and GIGA can get back to work instead of acting childish and trying to prove the other is full of shit.

I can agree with that, but at the same time nobody is going to catch them in the high end... DFI and a few other companies make nice boards no doubt, but they cannot touch the top tiers of Asus and Gigabyte.

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

Classy, that asus release is classy yes but classy what? It does not address the problem.

The first statement addresses the issue.

[BigBruser13]

Where is the response Asus, and it's obvious that Asus has been found out, Giga could have used more tact but I'd rather they get to the point in plain English. Thank you Giga!

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Ecs?

[KBD]

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

Classy, that asus release is classy yes but classy what? It does not address the problem.

I have to agree with that statement. They are not responding to the accusations by Gigabyte, that makes me wonder if there is some truth to what Gigabyte said about Asus EPU.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Originally Posted by BigBruser13

Where is the response Asus, and it's obvious that Asus has been found out, Giga could have used more tact but I'd rather they get to the point in plain English. Thank you Giga!

Exactly, how many ppl actually understand technical jargon, you have ppl who think an ati 9800 is faster than a Nvidia 9600GT

[niko084]

Originally Posted by OnionMan

I doubt a company as big as Gigabyte would just make something up like this to push sales in their direction.. There is too big of a risk of backfire for them if it's just an unsubstanciated claim.. Then the accused company does nothing to provide proof that things work.. Not to mention, Asus referenced a model that wasn't mentioned in the Tom's Hardware report.. Hmmmm

Actually slander in business is not unrare at all, you can easily sway people standing on a center line with a statement or even a direct lie. It happens a lot more than most people think, directly and indirectly. So no they would have very good reason to do it, a lot of times its even true just exploded to make sound much worse than it is.

It's all business, and business is cut throat.

[niko084]

Originally Posted by [I.R.A]_FBi

Ecs?

ECS makes decent mid line stuff, nothing high end..

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Originally Posted by niko084

ECS makes decent mid line stuff, nothing high end..

I did it for the lols.

Thread was getting abit high on tensions.

ABIT

[imperialreign]

Originally Posted by KBD

I have to agree with that statement. They are not responding to the accusations by Gigabyte, that makes me wonder if there is some truth to what Gigabyte said about Asus EPU.

the sad part about it, is that everyone already knew (well, review sites and those who've read up on it) how EPU worked before GIGA made their claim . . . which, in my eyes just made them appear childish and full of crap . . . until I stumbled upon these articles:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...5490&Itemid=37
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...6482&Itemid=37

and that seems to be were this bitching match got started:

Furthermore, Asus ridiculed Gigabyte's DES for using software, but it seems like Asus has some software of their own that you need to use to achieve this magical 96 percent power saving, called AI Gear3+. Otherwise, you won't see the full benefit of the EPU from what we gather from the press release.

like I mentioned, ASUS started this mess quietly, GIGA responded openly about it, although somewhat poorly and also made some wild accusations as well. As it stands, both companies have been caught with their pants round their ankles.

[OnionMan]

Originally Posted by niko084

a lot of times its even true just exploded to make sound much worse than it is.

It's all business, and business is cut throat.

That I do agree with.. Exploded.. How much of a difference does this really make to the end user? How many of us really care? Sure energy savings is great, but how often do those 'first of its kind' actually work well.. It's usually the second or third gen. that works the best.. IDK, I'm just of the opinion that Asus is not being 100% honest with us, even if it was wrong for Gigabyte to make these claims.. This might be a different story if an unrelated third party (like TPU or Tom's) made this claim ALONE..

[niko084]

Originally Posted by OnionMan

That I do agree with.. Exploded.. How much of a difference does this really make to the end user? How many of us really care? Sure energy savings is great, but how often do those 'first of its kind' actually work well.. It's usually the second or third gen. that works the best.. IDK, I'm just of the opinion that Asus is not being 100% honest with us, even if it was wrong for Gigabyte to make these claims.. This might be a different story if an unrelated third party (like TPU or Tom's) made this claim ALONE..

Although many of us may not care, some big time "green company" may choose to buy gigabyte boards instead, which could lead to people that work there or on those systems to buy them and recomend them etc.. It all starts somewhere, more people will buy what their friends tell them is good than any advertisement these days.