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Old Jun 14, 2008, 10:29 AM   #1
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Intel Preparing Low-cost Core 2 Quad Q8200 Processor

Latest report from DigiTimes brings us a word of new Core 2 Quad Q8000 series processors.
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Intel is planning to launch a Core 2 Quad Q8000 CPU series, offering entry-level prices to counter AMD's triple-core CPUs in the mainstream market, according to sources at motherboard makers. Intel will launch the Core 2 Quad Q8200 in the third quarter this year, supporting FSB up to 1333MHz, L2 cache of 4MB and a core frequency of 2.33GHz. Pricing will be set around US$203 in thousand-unit quantities. In order to separate the Q8000 series from Intel's Q9000 CPU family, the Q8000 CPU series will not support Intel's VT and TXT technology.
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Old Jun 14, 2008, 10:35 AM   #2
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i wonder how these will fair against the tricore's?
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Considering the price of 1000 units is $203 won't be the price at retail too high to compete against tri-cores?
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400 FSB = 2.8GHz quad, prolly around the $250au price point... sounds expensive/not that good
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hmm i have seen Q6600 for around 220-250AU so this doesn't look like a good deal to me at all
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yea the q6600's are close to that price in the uk already so what does this offer that the q6600 doesnt lower clock rate, same cache
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yea the q6600's are close to that price in the uk already so what does this offer that the q6600 doesnt lower clock rate, same cache
lower clocks, lower multiplier, lower cache (q6600 is 8MB) higher stock FSB (1333 vs 1066)

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I'm glad to see that the production of Quads is getting to the point where we have budget Quad-Core CPUs. But 200$ is really not budget, when I can get a Q6600 for about the same price. There's really no reason to upgrade from a Q6600 at this point in any way. A new architecture would be the only viable upgrade path.

But, I doubt that a 3.2-3.6Ghz Quad-Core CPU won't hold it's own for at least 2 years. Not even Crysis takes more than 50%.
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I wonder if these would be 45nm or 65nm. If it was 45nm I could see it doing ok, with the lower power req's and temps.
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I'm glad to see that the production of Quads is getting to the point where we have budget Quad-Core CPUs. But 200$ is really not budget, when I can get a Q6600 for about the same price. There's really no reason to upgrade from a Q6600 at this point in any way. A new architecture would be the only viable upgrade path.

But, I doubt that a 3.2-3.6Ghz Quad-Core CPU won't hold it's own for at least 2 years. Not even Crysis takes more than 50%.
that 50%, means its maxing out two cores. crysis doesnt utilise quads.

Its a common misconception due to how windows reports CPU usage.
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so many cpus, so little time.....
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That price will fall, didnt take long for intel to come off their $600 Q6600, so within 6-8 months this will be a budget minded builders dream. With 1333 fsb it will make for a awesome clocker too, we hope. ALLEN
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wonder if these will be like the e7200s 4ghz quads on air sounds good to me
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For the same price as a Q6600 and weaker specs idk.. Might as well grab a Q66..
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If you already have a Q6000 then you're set for a while, especially with the G0s. Even the last Q6600 I bought can reach 4Ghz with no problem. That price will last for a week. The Q6000s will also eat these alive because of the cache. It doesn't get any more simple than that.
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With the latest Q6600's clocking like complete ass, and these new chips being 45nm, this might be worth it over a new Q6600. They will probably reach higher clock speeds. It would be a hard decision if you were buying new, IMO.
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yea the q6600's are close to that price in the uk already so what does this offer that the q6600 doesnt lower clock rate, same cache
Are we forgetting Intel is doing a "clearence sale" on Q6x00? They want to flush Kentsfield off the market.
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that 50%, means its maxing out two cores. crysis doesnt utilise quads.

Its a common misconception due to how windows reports CPU usage.
If Windows Vista doesn't report idividual CPU core usage correctly, then what are we to do to find out what the actual usage is?

I am more than 100% sure that Crytek put an exclamation on Quad-Core CPU's. This is evident further by their work with and funding from Intel themselves.
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If you already have a Q6000 then you're set for a while, especially with the G0s. Even the last Q6600 I bought can reach 4Ghz with no problem. That price will last for a week. The Q6000s will also eat these alive because of the cache. It doesn't get any more simple than that.
on air stable doubtful...
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on air stable doubtful...
Who can get a Q6 to 4 GHz on air, winter air maybe, but not room temp. The only stable 4 Ghz I've been able to get was on water.
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If you already have a Q6000 then you're set for a while, especially with the G0s. Even the last Q6600 I bought can reach 4Ghz with no problem. That price will last for a week. The Q6000s will also eat these alive because of the cache. It doesn't get any more simple than that.
mine certainly wont on air. neither does the 3-4 i've seen around. The earliest batches did that, but not for long - 3.6 is the most common clocking off them. The latest batches struggle for 3.2 (i made a thread about it here on TPU a while back)
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If Windows Vista doesn't report idividual CPU core usage correctly, then what are we to do to find out what the actual usage is?

I am more than 100% sure that Crytek put an exclamation on Quad-Core CPU's. This is evident further by their work with and funding from Intel themselves.
If Crysis was able to use Quad cores, you would be seeing greater than 75% cpu usage. As it stands, Crysis is only able to max the equivalent of 2 cores.
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If Crysis was able to use Quad cores, you would be seeing greater than 75% cpu usage. As it stands, Crysis is only able to max the equivalent of 2 cores.
windows reports it as 25% per core.

Crysis advertised 'best on intel quad core' but that doesnt mean the game even supports them.

25% = 1 core 50% = 1 cores, and so on.
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windows reports it as 25% per core.

Crysis advertised 'best on intel quad core' but that doesnt mean the game even supports them.

25% = 1 core 50% = 1 cores, and so on.
Yep, that's why I said Crysis would use > 75% if it was able to use a quad. That's a minimum of 3 maxed cores, plus whatever you throw on top of that.
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