Idea/project chilled water cooling FITS

[Fitseries3]

OK...

it may be a ghetto idea (sorry if that word offends you) but i think this will work out very good if i can just experiment with it a bit.

here's the initial idea...

take my lonely old thermochill PA120.1 and suspend it in a old crap cooler and fill it with ice, salt and water.

it's been done before. i know. oh well.

now this has led me to think a step further and go extreme.

if the above setup works good im gonna get dry ice and use antifreeze instead of water in the loop. hopefully i can get this crap setup(not really) to cool better then my TEC block.

we shall soon see.

[intel igent]

don't forget pascals law

[dark2099]

That sounds really interestingly cool.

[Fitseries3]

Originally Posted by intel igent

don't forget pascals law

im sure i know of it but remind me again.

[intel igent]

i'm buzzed google is your friend

[cdawall]

In the physical sciences, Pascal's law or Pascal's principle states that "a change in the pressure of an enclosed incompressible fluid is conveyed undiminished to every part of the fluid and to the surfaces of its container."

[intel igent]

Originally Posted by cdawall

In the physical sciences, Pascal's law or Pascal's principle states that "a change in the pressure of an enclosed incompressible fluid is conveyed undiminished to every part of the fluid and to the surfaces of its container."

that may be part of it , but not the right part

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by intel igent

that may be part of it , but not the right part

lol thats what i got off wikipedia

this any better?

A law of physics which states that a confined fluid transmits externally applied pressure uniformly in all directions. More exactly, in a static fluid, force is transmitted at the velocity of sound throughout the fluid. The force acts normal to any surface. This natural phenomenon is the basis of the pneumatic fire, balloon, hydraulic jack, and related devices.

[Fitseries3]

sorry. my brain is off right now. i haven't slept for 5 days now.

so your saying that i need some sort of movement in the liquid?

[intel igent]

that not it

am i so buzzed i forgot what i learned?

where's ma damn text book's.......

woops! don't i feel like an ass, youv'e got the right one one i'm wrong

something to do with heat transfer......

still looking......

[Skitzo]

k inteli are you talking bout the pressure drop due to temp in the closed loop because of the dry ice? i think if the loop was open to allow the coolant to drop in temp without restriction, it might be okay. Close it up when you fire it up and there should be less of a pressure change.

Is the antifreeze going in the dryice solution or the cooling loop? i guess both would be best

salt in ice water is the best way to chill a warm beer lol, doesn't the salt make the ice melt faster? how long would it cool effectively.

[intel igent]

no, no pressure drop.

heat transfer...

now i'm thinking (NOT good)

still looking.......

[Fitseries3]

this is why i posted this before i tried the DICE.

[Skitzo]

viscosity change due to pressure and temp can mean more or less heat tranfers right. is that it FTW?

condensation is a concern with sub-zero cooling.
a second rad giving a major chill to the intake air would be a big plus. As long as the coolant temp is below ambient it shouldn't hurt

[intel igent]

admittedly i'm lost

maybe sober time? sooner than i thought?

something to do with an object of any given temp transfering heat to another object of an equal or lesser temp.......

someone else chime in and correct me or assist........

maybe it's just the wording that is making me confused

i think it was advanced fuels class or was it A/C imperial where you at?

let this be a lesson to you kid's at home drug's + alcohol are BAD

make that a DBL straight up!

i'm going for a smoke

[dark2099]

Originally Posted by intel igent

let this be a lesson to you kid's at home drug's + alcohol are BAD

Now someone tells me. So sounded cool in theory but now seems like it could end up being bad, and when I read pascal's law, I totally thought of something else.

[Skitzo]

at this point I can't really think clearly so I agree with intel - maybe after i shake off the inner fog.

I do (waves hand through fog) think your talking about multiple variables. If temps are allowed to balance somewhat before the loop is pressurized it will reduce the effect your talking about. Physiscs is awsome, just dificult to explain sometimes.

[intel igent]

woah i'm a dick pascal's law is in relation to hydraulics theory

still looking for the one i'm reffering to........

you got my brain semi working fits, thnx

[dark2099]

I thought you were referring to the law (or what ever it is) that states "what ever can go wrong will go wrong."

[Skitzo]

that would be my bud Murphey ... he knows his shit lol

[p_o_s_pc]

Originally Posted by intel igent

let this be a lesson to you kid's at home drug's + alcohol are BAD

oh really i never knew that

[Fitseries3]

sneakypeet reminded me of a great idea.

make the longest coil of copper tubing that i can make and put it in the cooler. then put the DICE and water in the cooler. the coil will cool better with the liquid <-> liquid cooling.

[intel igent]

http://www.efunda.com/formulae/heat_...e/overview.cfm

these says it better than i do

i got the theories mixed but dis what i'm thinking........

Originally Posted by fitserie3

sneakypeet reminded me of a great idea.

make the longest coil of copper tubing that i can make and put it in the cooler. then put the DICE and water in the cooler. the coil will cool better with the liquid <-> liquid cooling.

that good idea for simple chiller
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[Fitseries3]

well i figured that dissipating a small amount of heat over a huge area supercooled by DICE would be pretty easy.

[Skitzo]

Originally Posted by intel igent

http://www.efunda.com/formulae/heat_...e/overview.cfm

these says it better than i do

i got the theories mixed but dis what i'm thinking........



that good idea for simple chiller
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that's what I was trying to say except with less words that made less sence