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Old Jul 7, 2008, 11:44 AM   #1576
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Mine failed too at night, rebooted by itself alone and i can't resume the work now (48% was done) ... though it all, it's still Prime Stable ... and if i start the SMP client it will work but not as accurate as yesterday, can be a software bug more than stability ???

update: i was using 5.92 beta instead of 5.91 beta 6 cause in the F@H web they were saying it's more reliable and stable ...
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Mine failed too at night, rebooted by itself alone and i can't resume the work now (48% was done) ... though it all, it's still Prime Stable ... and if i start the SMP client it will work but not as accurate as yesterday, can be a software bug more than stability ???

update: i was using 5.92 beta instead of 5.91 beta 6 cause in the F@H web they were saying it's more reliable and stable ...
Your computer is more than likely unstable. F@H is super senative to instability, I found it way more sensitive than Prime95(and I assume you are using the Prime95 designed for multi-core systems right?)

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Yes newtekie1, passed 3 hours the Small-FFT's on a lower voltage and 12h 30m the Blend test, i'm using last version 25.6 for 32 bits (i'm on XP 32 right now) ... i did some tests and i decided to upgrade some other voltages (PLL, NB and RAM) a notch except CPU one (arrives till 1.344V on load and sometimes max to 1.352V) ... it's working better than yesterday now (2444 PPD vs 2276 PPD), completing a cycle in 10m instead of 11 ... but i'll gotta look further if will crash or not.

Thank you for the advice related to F@H, i thought Prime95 was the more exigent in stability tests, i'll keep that in mind

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Yes newtekie1, passed 3 hours the Small-FFT's on a lower voltage and 12h 30m the Blend test, i'm using last version 25.6 for 32 bits (i'm on XP 32 right now) ... i did some tests and i decided to upgrade some other voltages (PLL, NB and RAM) a notch except CPU one (arrives till 1.344V on load and sometimes max to 1.352V) ... it's working better than yesterday now (2444 PPD vs 2276 PPD), completing a cycle in 10m instead of 11 ... but i'll gotta look further if will crash or not.

Thank you for the advice related to F@H, i thought Prime95 was the more exigent in stability tests, i'll keep that in mind

use OCCT or orthos. they're the best multi core testers out there (OCCT being the only native quad core tester i know)
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use OCCT or orthos. they're the best multi core testers out there (OCCT being the only native quad core tester i know)
Prime95 v25 and higher has native quad-core support. The problem is that Prime95 and all other stability testing programs don't test every aspect of the CPU. So one program might be perfectly stable, but another might crash. I've had CPUs that were Orthos/Prime stable for 24+ hours, but F@H would crash(or give EUEs) almost instantly when I tried to run it.
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Prime95 v25 and higher has native quad-core support. The problem is that Prime95 and all other stability testing programs don't test every aspect of the CPU. So one program might be perfectly stable, but another might crash. I've had CPUs that were Orthos/Prime stable for 24+ hours, but F@H would crash(or give EUEs) almost instantly when I tried to run it.
and thats why i use OCCT. usually problems show up within 30 minutes, and i've never needed more than 4 hours testing in it. (the only crashes that happen after 4 hours, are overheating related/due to ambient temps changing)
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OCCT passed in Mix Mode with lower voltage stable for 1 hour too, i always check with Prime95 & OCCT ... the F@H theory wins points
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Wolf, ya took #1 for most productive According to xoc it's gonna take you two months to catch me point wise. Should be alot sooner once ya get your 8600 folding.. It's looking like I sold my folding rig last night. Gotta remove the vrmod stuff I added to the 8600. A friend needs a pc so... but I'll have up to two more weeks to let it fold



on another note. all the beta clients we use to fold have been identified as higher risk folding. They are not tested as much and can result in eue's and core shutdowns. (This is why the ppd value is so high for the wu's going through the beta clients). Any instability in a machine tends to casue probs for FAH clients. FAH clients seem to be an exceptional tool for testing stability. If you are hitting nice oc's and having FAH probs, you should consider re-examing your oc for stablity and look to a more stable client. The FAH website clearly states the risk for beta clients.
It's great to max everything out to push the wu's through, but if they don't make it out the other end consistantly what's the point.
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Wolf, ya took #1 for most productive According to xoc it's gonna take you two months to catch me point wise. Should be alot sooner once ya get your 8600 folding.. It's looking like I sold my folding rig last night. Gotta remove the vrmod stuff I added to the 8600. A friend needs a pc so... but I'll have up to two more weeks to let it fold
It kind of feels odd not being the most productive. I took the spot away from Steevo a while ago, and with the exception of the few times he took it back, I've been unchallenged for some time.

It goes to show how the poor economy affects everything. I would easily still be in the top spot if I could afford it, but I simply can't. The utility bills are simply too high, and running the air conditioning this summer is just killing me. I don't even leave my computers on 24/7 anymore like I used to. Now they are all set to Hibernate or Sleep after 15 minutes. I have my Q6600, E6600, x2 4400+, HD3850, 8800GS, and 9800GTX all going unused right now. That is probably 13000+PPD. I know the 8800GS and 9800GTX can pump out 10000PPD by themselves. Plus my PS3 isn't folding anymore either.

Since I stopped folding, my utility bill has dropped about $75 from what it was, and I've lowered the temperature the air condition was keeping the house from 78F to 74F. When I was folding, not only would the computers be one 24/7, they would be under full load, which draws even more power, plus they were putting out so much heat that the whole house would heat up and the air conditioner would have to run harder, which eats up even more power.
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It kind of feels odd not being the most productive. I took the spot away from Steevo a while ago, and with the exception of the few times he took it back, I've been unchallenged for some time.

It goes to show how the poor economy affects everything. I would easily still be in the top spot if I could afford it, but I simply can't. The utility bills are simply too high, and running the air conditioning this summer is just killing me. I don't even leave my computers on 24/7 anymore like I used to. Now they are all set to Hibernate or Sleep after 15 minutes. I have my Q6600, E6600, x2 4400+, HD3850, 8800GS, and 9800GTX all going unused right now. That is probably 13000+PPD. I know the 8800GS and 9800GTX can pump out 10000PPD by themselves. Plus my PS3 isn't folding anymore either.


Since I stopped folding, my utility bill has dropped about $75 from what it was, and I've lowered the temperature the air condition was keeping the house from 78F to 74F. When I was folding, not only would the computers be one 24/7, they would be under full load, which draws even more power, plus they were putting out so much heat that the whole house would heat up and the air conditioner would have to run harder, which eats up even more power.
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EDIT: are you trying to point out the fact that you could crush us at any given time if you choose to

I hear ya....

Power is too expensive these days My ca was only cycling off for ~10 min per hour with 4 machines folding 9 clients. On average, the top floore is 3-4 *C hotter than the main floor during summer months. After 24 hours of 4 machines folding the differnece was up to 10*C. Well I guess if I only have the one machine folding , power and heat shouldn't be too much of an issue.

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I started like 3 days ago and im already #86 go GPU folding

Does anyone know if the 4850 would fold faster than my 8800GT 1gb?
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Does anyone know if the 4850 would fold faster than my 8800GT 1gb?
There isn't a client for the HD4000 series yet. However, I would guess the HD4850 will be faster than the 8800GT.
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im even now considering giving my sister a CUDA card, even tho she doesn't play games, just cos her comp is on 24/7, id get her to fold wit it.
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Gimme a hand guys

I am running the GPU2 on my 3870 @ 1906 PPD
I have a Phenom X3 8650. Can I run the SMP client on the other 2 cores as to not slow down the GPU? If so, is there a link to a walkthrough for setting up dual clients(GPU2 & SMP)?
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damn it you tards are overtaking my Core Duo 1.66Ghz lappy *shakes fist like an old man*



Ugh i use to be top 20 but now im 23rd n im not sure if i'l be able to keep up with the other speed crunching Demons....

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I think i will need to switch to the dual core version of F@H to stand a chance if at all of clawing back my leet position
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I'm comin for u Shadowfold!!!!!!!!
Actually , I think i eclipsed u already. I can't tell till the next update what i accomplished overnite
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Crap your getting close Im gonna set up a 3850 to start folding too so I dont think you will keep up there!
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I am running the GPU2 on my 3870 @ 1906 PPD
I have a Phenom X3 8650. Can I run the SMP client on the other 2 cores as to not slow down the GPU? If so, is there a link to a walkthrough for setting up dual clients(GPU2 & SMP)?

been wokring on a post to help people fold, but its not finished yet.

I havn't had the opportunity to get right into the smp client, but I'm thinking when the client is run, it should set the affinity for all three cores. If the gpu client will not run, check it's config settings and make sure the priority has been set above just above the lowest. If this doesn't work, the priorities of the executable and the core can be adjusted through the task manager. I'll try to find a link thant better explains it. This info will be added to the"post" when I can.
give it a read, you might find some usefulinfo

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@Wolf lol, well we've dethroned two top ten's. good show. when your ppd average starts to show your new output, that'll be some pertty numbers.

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if its not already, throw this link in your post Skitzo

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=50711

also, i cant wait till multi gpu folding with cuda cards, then i could stick the 9800GTX, 9600GT and 8600GT all in one box and just leave it on to fold, rather than 3 whole systems.
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if its not already, throw this link in your post Skitzo

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=50711
the link isn't working, If it's the xoc stats page, I think the link is near the end of the post

I seemed to have messed up my 8600 . Was playing with my cpu oc yesterday and it fubared my vc oc. Had to re -do the pencil mod 5 times to get it stable at 875/1912/800. PPd didn't come back up though (now ~1450 from ~2200)) gonna reinstall the drivers see if that helps.


edit: the link is working now
k I just noticed my effective ppd rate (8600)has gone up was 900-1100, it's now back up to ~1600. Maybe it doens't like this wu....

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if its not already, throw this link in your post Skitzo

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also, i cant wait till multi gpu folding with cuda cards, then i could stick the 9800GTX, 9600GT and 8600GT all in one box and just leave it on to fold, rather than 3 whole systems.

it would save you some power, but I'm thinking you'd take a serious hit in output. I saw a screenie of Sol's 9600's folding, second card was ~50% output, a third card would prolly be ~50% output of the second card.
Would still be a really nice folding rig
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fah must be adding wu's and adjusting the bonus or something, my 9600 just dropped 50%ppd
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Hmmmm... (bumps Phenom up to 3.01GHZ and 3870 to 915MHZ), if I can keep this 3870 from melting down, I might reach 2100+ ppd.....and then there are the servers at my work.....
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