Fit's Mini Phase build log

Fitseries3 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:09 AM

After a few months of contemplating whether or not just buy a phase or to just build one myself i have decided to just do it myself. why? most phases are $500+ and are USUALLY in a generic yet decent looking case and have a short suction line which doesn't allow for flexibility in tech-station/ benching situations. most pre-built/manufactured phases are designed to be put under a case such the ever so popular LIAN LI styled cases. i choose to build my own to better suit my wants and needs.

i have sought after a reasonably small compressor to take up as little room as possible. while not as powerful as larger compressors, it will still perform wonderfully for what im wanting to use it for. most people go for the big setups to get as cold as possible but im shooting for -40 degrees Celsius while using easy to find and low cost parts and supplies. i will try to build this for under $200, which i know sounds crazy but im gonna show you that a good quality phase doesn't have to cost more than a water setup.

dont get TOO excited now... this build is going to take a few weeks at the least but please keep watching... it will be exciting!

DanishDevil · Jul 8, 2008, 02:10 AM

IM ALREADY Tooooooooooooooooooo EXCITED!

dark2099 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:10 AM

Oh..a project log for this, should be fun to see it grow.

PVTCaboose1337 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:22 AM

I pray there will be no fail... but I believe that there might be some problems on the way. IE: Fire, and generally death...

Fitseries3 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

I pray there will be no fail... but I believe that there might be some problems on the way. IE: Fire, and generally death...

heh.. maybe if planned. i've got my HVAC license .

farlex85 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

I pray there will be no fail... but I believe that there might be some problems on the way. IE: Fire, and generally death...

Whoa whoa there, no need to be all foreboding. I think it'll go swimmingly, patience being the key. Now you can put up some real outrageous benchies w/ all that hardware moving through your rig all the time,

.

dark2099 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:26 AM

In the unfortunate case of fit's death, I hereby lay claim to all his computer stuff.

Cold Storm · Jul 8, 2008, 02:27 AM

Damn man, your into everything aren't you!? Sweet, now I am hit into this! Sounds like nothing more then fun my friend!

DanishDevil · Jul 8, 2008, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark2099

In the unfortunate case of fit's death, I hereby lay claim to all his computer stuff.

Sorry. All electronics already go to me. It's in his will.

farlex85 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanishDevil

Sorry. All electronics already go to me. It's in his will.

That seems a little suspicious that you know that if you ask me..........

Fitseries3 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:45 AM

here's a few...

im LUCKY that i found a pump that runs on straight R134a. im gonna use a 80/20 split R134a and anhydrous ammonia.

dark2099 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanishDevil

Sorry. All electronics already go to me. It's in his will.

And where is you're proof?

Fitseries3 · Jul 8, 2008, 04:46 AM

im getting one of these custom made from Piotres...
mine will be sleaved in orange though.

Silverel · Jul 8, 2008, 05:08 AM

Oh do I wanna see this happen. Looks like quality craftsmanship so far.

erocker · Jul 8, 2008, 05:22 AM

Awesome fit! Looks real good so far, I may be doing this myself someday!

Chicken Patty · Jul 8, 2008, 05:52 AM

subscribed. Convince me and i'll do one myself as well!!!

Chicken Patty · Jul 8, 2008, 05:53 AM

looking great so far. Nice work. Keep us updated.

ZenEffect · Jul 8, 2008, 06:19 AM

peter is from poland, and his machine work is top notch. if you plan to build one, take in mind that it is not easy. tuning, cap tube diameter and length, getting nitrogen (purging w/ propane is a big safety hazard), gauges, torches, brazing rods, refrigerant, refrigerant license if you want anything other than r134, load tester, condenser size, fans, insulating, making a housing....

but once you build 1, you could build more to recoup what you just spent in building it

im assuming you have to acrylic fabrication from your dtek tops so, an acrylic case would be cool!

Chicken Patty · Jul 8, 2008, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenEffect

peter is from poland, and his machine work is top notch. if you plan to build one, take in mind that it is not easy. tuning, cap tube diameter and length, getting nitrogen (purging w/ propane is a big safety hazard), gauges, torches, brazing rods, refrigerant, refrigerant license if you want anything other than r134, load tester, condenser size, fans, insulating, making a housing....

but once you build 1, you could build more to recoup what you just spent in building it

im assuming you have to acrylic fabrication from your dtek tops so, an acrylic case would be cool!

thats a piece of pie

Fitseries3 · Jul 8, 2008, 01:46 PM

er.... my budget just got smashed...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotres via email

Hello
Sure I can make suction Line for You, I propose specs :

-130 cm of DN10 braided flex hose
-cpu evap with enclosure
-360 cm of 0.09 mm captube (0,036’)
-insulation 18 mm
-suction line sleeve orange or light red (I’m not sure if I have orange so much I must check).
-kprobe to measure temperature

Price 230$

Shipping :
Normal pack – goes to USA 3-5 weeks = 41 $
Express pack – should go 2-3 weeks = 71$

Thanks a lot
Please let me know.
Peter

it wasn't a surprise though. good craftsmanship costs money. i think it's worth the price for a good suction line/evap setup.

intel igent · Jul 8, 2008, 02:05 PM

not to rain on the parade but -25 to -45 idle temp's would prolly equate to just a few degrees below 0 which you could easily achieve with a good TEC setup

and better look at different refrigerant's other than 134a

good luck and post lot's of pix

Fitseries3 · Jul 8, 2008, 02:11 PM

this is gonna sound odd but.... im not trying to go extreme with my extreme cooler here. -100c is not needed for me. i'll be happy with -40c which is -40f(odd but true). actually... i may shoot for a bit colder.. how about -50c which is -58f.

intel igent · Jul 8, 2008, 02:21 PM

according to you that's idle temp, apply a load to it and see where you end up? not far off from a good TEC setup i bet.

maybe you should spend some time looking through here to help you more http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=80

have fun!

ZenEffect · Jul 8, 2008, 04:26 PM

well. fit, i may have some good news for you. i have a vapochill that can hold my e8500 @ -40c loaded w/ 1.7v

it also just so happens that i am moving and need to get rid of it

send me a pm.

Fitseries3 · Jul 8, 2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intel igent

according to you that's idle temp, apply a load to it and see where you end up? not far off from a good TEC setup i bet.

maybe you should spend some time looking through here to help you more http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=80

have fun!

i have spent hours and hours and hours reading countless pages. im not a dummy in HVAC/R either. i have a license and i have worked in HVAC/R before so i have plenty of experience.

im trying to build one that will fit in my TJ07 and run 24/7 with the least amount of condensation and not have to insulate the entire computer.

Jul 8, 2008, 02:09 AM	#1
Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.29/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	Fit's Mini Phase build log After a few months of contemplating whether or not just buy a phase or to just build one myself i have decided to just do it myself. why? most phases are $500+ and are USUALLY in a generic yet decent looking case and have a short suction line which doesn't allow for flexibility in tech-station/ benching situations. most pre-built/manufactured phases are designed to be put under a case such the ever so popular LIAN LI styled cases. i choose to build my own to better suit my wants and needs. i have sought after a reasonably small compressor to take up as little room as possible. while not as powerful as larger compressors, it will still perform wonderfully for what im wanting to use it for. most people go for the big setups to get as cold as possible but im shooting for -40 degrees Celsius while using easy to find and low cost parts and supplies. i will try to build this for under $200, which i know sounds crazy but im gonna show you that a good quality phase doesn't have to cost more than a water setup. dont get TOO excited now... this build is going to take a few weeks at the least but please keep watching... it will be exciting! Last edited by Fitseries3; Jul 8, 2008 at 02:21 PM.

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PVTCaboose1337 Graphical Hacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 7,478 (2.80/day) Thanks: 798 Thanked 1,174 Times in 834 Posts System Specs	I pray there will be no fail... but I believe that there might be some problems on the way. IE: Fire, and generally death... __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.29/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	here's a few... im LUCKY that i found a pump that runs on straight R134a. im gonna use a 80/20 split R134a and anhydrous ammonia. Attached Thumbnails

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Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.29/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	im getting one of these custom made from Piotres... mine will be sleaved in orange though.

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erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,957 (12.78/day) Thanks: 2,793 Thanked 12,318 Times in 7,831 Posts System Specs	Awesome fit! Looks real good so far, I may be doing this myself someday!

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Jul 8, 2008, 06:19 AM	#18
ZenEffect Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 613 (0.32/day) Thanks: 52 Thanked 87 Times in 80 Posts	peter is from poland, and his machine work is top notch. if you plan to build one, take in mind that it is not easy. tuning, cap tube diameter and length, getting nitrogen (purging w/ propane is a big safety hazard), gauges, torches, brazing rods, refrigerant, refrigerant license if you want anything other than r134, load tester, condenser size, fans, insulating, making a housing.... but once you build 1, you could build more to recoup what you just spent in building it im assuming you have to acrylic fabrication from your dtek tops so, an acrylic case would be cool!

Jul 8, 2008, 02:05 PM	#21
intel igent Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,242 (1.11/day) Thanks: 453 Thanked 445 Times in 413 Posts System Specs	not to rain on the parade but -25 to -45 idle temp's would prolly equate to just a few degrees below 0 which you could easily achieve with a good TEC setup and better look at different refrigerant's other than 134a good luck and post lot's of pix

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Jul 8, 2008, 02:11 PM	#22
Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 14,993 (7.29/day) Thanks: 4,318 Thanked 3,285 Times in 2,186 Posts System Specs	this is gonna sound odd but.... im not trying to go extreme with my extreme cooler here. -100c is not needed for me. i'll be happy with -40c which is -40f(odd but true). actually... i may shoot for a bit colder.. how about -50c which is -58f.

Jul 8, 2008, 02:21 PM	#23
intel igent Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,242 (1.11/day) Thanks: 453 Thanked 445 Times in 413 Posts System Specs	according to you that's idle temp, apply a load to it and see where you end up? not far off from a good TEC setup i bet. maybe you should spend some time looking through here to help you more http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=80 have fun!

Jul 8, 2008, 04:26 PM	#24
ZenEffect Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 613 (0.32/day) Thanks: 52 Thanked 87 Times in 80 Posts	well. fit, i may have some good news for you. i have a vapochill that can hold my e8500 @ -40c loaded w/ 1.7v it also just so happens that i am moving and need to get rid of it send me a pm.

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