building second rig amd short on cash need advice

salvation · Jul 13, 2008, 04:22 AM

planning my first amd rig. i am not familiar with amd please need advice. my friend suggested a dfi board, but is not 100% sure please give advice

Squirrely · Jul 13, 2008, 04:24 AM

Depends what type processor you want, an X2 or Phenom. If you want a X2, I would go with a 5000+ BE. I have one, and they are great OC'ers.

jinho11104 · Jul 13, 2008, 04:25 AM

if you want a cheap sli amd rig..

MSI k9n sli

2 X 8600GT(if you don't have a card alrdy)

5000+ AMD Black EDITION

2 gigs is enough

vista/xp (alot of people prefer XP[better preformance] but vista can do the same if you fix preferences)

zalman cooler(overclocking the 5000+)

cheap case..

If you aren't a hardcore gamer... just casual

pick up a 790G chipset mobo.. and a phenom.

salvation · Jul 13, 2008, 04:29 AM

well im going with a 6400+

pepsi71ocean · Jul 13, 2008, 04:30 AM

Hey sal< i glad to see you took my advice and came over. Welcome to TPU!

I suggested a X2 6400+ which runs at 3.2GHz naively.

Squirll, as for the BE i heard you can't hit over 3GHz?

p_o_s_pc · Jul 13, 2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsi71ocean

Hey sal< i glad to see you took my advice and came over. Welcome to TPU!

I suggested a X2 6400+ which runs at 3.2GHz naively.

Squirll, as for the BE i heard you can't hit over 3GHz?

I call BS on that i run 3.2ish on mine benching and 3ghz@stock voltage 24/7

pepsi71ocean · Jul 13, 2008, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

I call BS on that i run 3.2ish on mine benching and 3ghz@stock voltage 24/7

what are your volts like?

salvation · Jul 13, 2008, 04:36 AM

hey pospc do u know any good motherboards

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jul 13, 2008, 04:47 AM

Good motherboards are a dime a dozen, are you going ATi or nVidia? also are you going to run multi-gpu, or just single?

Edit: Also, what's your budget?

p_o_s_pc · Jul 13, 2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsi71ocean

what are your volts like?

3ghz 1.32v (stock for my CPU) 3.2ghz 1.52-1.55v (depends on temps) I have hit 3.3ish unstable with 1.56v

Squirrely · Jul 13, 2008, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsi71ocean

Squirll, as for the BE i heard you can't hit over 3GHz?

I can hit over 3ghz. I got 3.2 a while ago, but just didn't keep it there (1.475v I think), as there was no need too. I think cdawall can hit ~3.475 ghz, but thats with a good bit of volts.

Overall, I think the 5000 BE is good. Its 65nm as well, so that's a +1.

p_o_s_pc · Jul 13, 2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by salvation

hey pospc do u know any good motherboards

here is a nice board. and good overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128081

If you are wanting to crossfire someday
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136044
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130136

If you want to SLI then someone else is going to have to look them up for you because i don't keep up with them

pepsi71ocean · Jul 13, 2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

3ghz 1.32v (stock for my CPU) 3.2ghz 1.52-1.55v (depends on temps)

whats the farthest you have gotten the BE stable? Would you suggest water cooling for it as well?

salvation · Jul 13, 2008, 04:52 AM

im going single im eithier goona choose SAPPHIRE 100227L Radeon HD 3850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card or EVGA 512-P3-N807-AR GeForce 8800GT AKIMBO 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

p_o_s_pc · Jul 13, 2008, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsi71ocean

whats the farthest you have gotten the BE stable? Would you suggest water cooling for it as well?

highest stable i have got would be 3.2ghz @1.52v on a cool day.temp with my HSF was 42c full load. I would recommend water if you wanted to run high voltage (1.5+) 24/7 just for the life of the CPU but a good air cooler would be just fine if your not running as high voltage. Keep in mind alot of the BE get the same clocks with lower V-core. I think i just didn't get a good binned chip and also my mobo is showing its age and isn't overclocking as good anymore.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jul 13, 2008, 04:55 AM

Go with the 8800GT, it will give you better performance than a 3850.
If you're not going with a phenom I wouldn't bother with a nForce700 chip, you'll be fine with either a 500 or 600 chip. You should be able to find a good asus or giga board for under $100

What's your full budget?

p_o_s_pc · Jul 13, 2008, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OzzmanFloyd120

Go with the 8800GT, it will give you better performance than a 3850.
If you're not going with a phenom I wouldn't bother with a nForce700 chip, you'll be fine with either a 500 or 600 chip. You should be able to find a good asus or giga board for under $100

What's your full budget?

+1 on the 8800GT -1 on the 500 or 600
I would still get something that 100% supports Phenom so if one day he does want one then he wouldn't have to get a new board to get the full performance and overclocking out of one

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jul 13, 2008, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by p_o_s_pc

+1 on the 8800GT -1 on the 500 or 600
I would still get something that 100% supports Phenom so if one day he does want one then he wouldn't have to get a new board to get the full performance and overclocking out of one

True, I guess as a biproduct of my extreme-poorness I automatically look for the cheapest thing availabe for relative performance.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jul 13, 2008, 05:05 AM

Mobos
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138081
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131022
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138117

Third one is definately your best bet.

pepsi71ocean · Jul 13, 2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OzzmanFloyd120

What's your full budget?

Hes tight on money, i suggested AMD because its cheaper right now overall compared to intel. And this rig is for his mom's house, his primary computer is at his dad's.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jul 13, 2008, 05:07 AM

Any numbers? Any parts being salvaged?

p_o_s_pc · Jul 13, 2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OzzmanFloyd120

Mobos
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138081
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131022
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138117

Third one is definately your best bet.

all of the mobos are nice but the Gigabyte one i linked i still recommend it over the others.but the 3rd board is the best out of the list

pepsi71ocean · Jul 13, 2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OzzmanFloyd120

Any numbers? Any parts being salvaged?

not really, when he built his first rig we stole most of the good components, Hes basically starting at scratch.

p_o_s_pc · Jul 13, 2008, 05:13 AM

I would recommend the 5kBE,Gigabyte board that i linked a few post up,2gb of ram 667 or higher(any brand really) a 3850 or 3870 or 8800GS or 9600GSO also a 500w antec psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371019
any mid tower case and a ACF64 pro for the CPU

salvation · Jul 13, 2008, 05:14 AM

can someone post a link to a website that sells 5000+ BE

Jul 13, 2008, 04:22 AM	#1
salvation Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 19 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	building second rig amd short on cash need advice planning my first amd rig. i am not familiar with amd please need advice. my friend suggested a dfi board, but is not 100% sure please give advice

Jul 13, 2008, 04:24 AM	#2
Squirrely Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 358 (0.19/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 40 Times in 34 Posts System Specs	Depends what type processor you want, an X2 or Phenom. If you want a X2, I would go with a 5000+ BE. I have one, and they are great OC'ers. __________________

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Motherboard:	Evga 680i SLI
Cooling:	ASUS Arctic Square
Memory:	4GB GSKILL PI Black (2x2GB) 4-4-4-12 @ 1.8v
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 275 Superclocked
Hard Disk:	WD 320GB (B3 revision)/WD 160GB
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer X241W
PSU:	PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750w
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate x64

System Name:	custom
Processor:	6000+ X2 (oc'd 3.3 volt1.4)
Motherboard:	abit an m2
Cooling:	orb thermal take
Memory:	3.5gigs of 800
Video Card:	8800gt (oc'd 735/165/950)
Hard Disk:	500gb hitachi
CRT/LCD Model:	DELL 19inch
Sound Card:	onboard
PSU:	700watt xvs(ultra)
Benchmarks:	11k

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pepsi71ocean Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Peoples Republic of New South Jersey Posts: 1,034 (0.51/day) Thanks: 96 Thanked 134 Times in 120 Posts System Specs	Hey sal< i glad to see you took my advice and came over. Welcome to TPU! I suggested a X2 6400+ which runs at 3.2GHz naively. Squirll, as for the BE i heard you can't hit over 3GHz? __________________ The 2nd Amendment isn't so you can hunt, it to protect the citizens from an oppressive government.... The New General Nonsense Forum Come and Join!! The Nvidia 8800 Series Overclocking and Feedback Thread

Jul 13, 2008, 04:25 AM	#3
jinho11104 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 294 (0.16/day) Thanks: 89 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	if you want a cheap sli amd rig.. MSI k9n sli 2 X 8600GT(if you don't have a card alrdy) 5000+ AMD Black EDITION 2 gigs is enough vista/xp (alot of people prefer XP[better preformance] but vista can do the same if you fix preferences) zalman cooler(overclocking the 5000+) cheap case.. If you aren't a hardcore gamer... just casual pick up a 790G chipset mobo.. and a phenom.

Jul 13, 2008, 04:29 AM	#4
salvation Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 19 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well im going with a 6400+

System Name:	The Grand Phoenix Clusterflop
Processor:	AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb @3.4GHz
Motherboard:	ASRock 870 EXTREME3
Cooling:	Xigmatec S1284 (Lapped)1x200mm, 4x120mm
Memory:	Muskin Silverline 4GB DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) 9-9-9-24
Video Card:	eVGA GTX 470 SC Edition 1280mb RAM (C/S/M)(640/1280/1705)
Hard Disk:	2x500GB Seagate, 32MB Cache 1xWD 40GB UMD IDE Hdd.
Optical Drive:	ASUS-1 DVD R-,R+/CD-R, CD-RW, LG Lightscribe DVD writer, Norcent CD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	SAMSUNG 22" LCDTV HD Monitor and Samsung 24"
Case:	COOLER MASTER RC-690
Sound Card:	USB 2.0 Sound (USB out to my Stero System)
PSU:	Thermaltake XT TPX-775M 775W
Software:	Windows XP Home SP3

System Name:	el'lappy\|Cruncher \| Cruncher 2
Processor:	intel C2D T6400 \| i7 3770k @4.2ghz \| AII X2 220 @3.4ghz
Motherboard:	some Acer \| Asus P8Z77-V Pro \|Gigabyter GA-M61p-S3
Cooling:	dual 80mm cooling fan \| Xiggy S1283 (WC'ing OTW) \|cheapo
Memory:	2x2gb ddr3 \| 2x2gb Ripjaws 1600 \|4x512mb D9s
Video Card:	onboard \| Asus DirectCU GTX460 1GB(+GTX 465 STB) \|8800GTS
Hard Disk:	Momuntus xt 320gb \|Kingston Hyper X 120gb SATA III\|500gb WD
Optical Drive:	DVD-RW \| None (STB blu-ray player,maybe) \|DVD-RW Lightscribe
CRT/LCD Model:	17in \| 40" 1080P HD TV
Case:	lappy case \| open air ATM (STB CM HAF XB) \|none yet
Sound Card:	onboard \| onboard \| onboard
PSU:	Dell powerbrick with Acer end \| Antec EW 650w \|Antec SP 350w(upg.soon)
Software:	Windows 7 Ult. 64bit---->------->

Jul 13, 2008, 04:36 AM	#8
salvation Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 19 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hey pospc do u know any good motherboards

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OzzmanFloyd120 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pontaic Michigan Posts: 2,150 (1.15/day) Thanks: 177 Thanked 305 Times in 270 Posts System Specs	Good motherboards are a dime a dozen, are you going ATi or nVidia? also are you going to run multi-gpu, or just single? Edit: Also, what's your budget? __________________ Help, I need to sell my stuff to pay bills! - TPU's ATHF Fan Club! - The Video Editors' Clubhouse

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Processor:	Intel Atom n270
Memory:	1GB DDR2 533mhz
Video Card:	Intel G945
Hard Disk:	250GB
CRT/LCD Model:	10.1" LCD
Software:	Microsoft Windows 7 Starter x86

Jul 13, 2008, 04:52 AM	#14
salvation Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 19 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	im going single im eithier goona choose SAPPHIRE 100227L Radeon HD 3850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card or EVGA 512-P3-N807-AR GeForce 8800GT AKIMBO 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card __________________

Jul 13, 2008, 04:55 AM	#16
OzzmanFloyd120 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pontaic Michigan Posts: 2,150 (1.15/day) Thanks: 177 Thanked 305 Times in 270 Posts System Specs	Go with the 8800GT, it will give you better performance than a 3850. If you're not going with a phenom I wouldn't bother with a nForce700 chip, you'll be fine with either a 500 or 600 chip. You should be able to find a good asus or giga board for under $100 What's your full budget? __________________ Help, I need to sell my stuff to pay bills! - TPU's ATHF Fan Club! - The Video Editors' Clubhouse

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OzzmanFloyd120 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pontaic Michigan Posts: 2,150 (1.15/day) Thanks: 177 Thanked 305 Times in 270 Posts System Specs	Mobos http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138081 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131022 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138117 Third one is definately your best bet. __________________ Help, I need to sell my stuff to pay bills! - TPU's ATHF Fan Club! - The Video Editors' Clubhouse

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OzzmanFloyd120 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pontaic Michigan Posts: 2,150 (1.15/day) Thanks: 177 Thanked 305 Times in 270 Posts System Specs	Any numbers? Any parts being salvaged? __________________ Help, I need to sell my stuff to pay bills! - TPU's ATHF Fan Club! - The Video Editors' Clubhouse

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p_o_s_pc F@H&WCG addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newark ohio Posts: 9,916 (4.49/day) Thanks: 3,158 Thanked 2,215 Times in 1,685 Posts System Specs	I would recommend the 5kBE,Gigabyte board that i linked a few post up,2gb of ram 667 or higher(any brand really) a 3850 or 3870 or 8800GS or 9600GSO also a 500w antec psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371019 any mid tower case and a ACF64 pro for the CPU __________________ crunching for TPU on 30 CPU Threads + 688 Cuda cores More to come

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