Danamics Innovates the First Liquid-metal Based CPU Cooler

btarunr · Jul 18, 2008, 10:45 AM

Here's something new: A CPU cooler that comprises of a circulatory mechanism of liquid-metal, the liquid-metal has higher thermal conductivity than other liquid media, flowing liquid metal across an array of metal fins to disperse heat, and the cycle continues. What's more, the liquid is inextinguishable. That's 'cool'. Danamics innovated such a cooler for today's CPUs called the LM10.

The cooler also has no moving parts. The pump that circulates liquid-metal across tubes doesn't have them either. The pump functions on the principles of electromagnetic flow, the ferromagnetic liquid is subjected to flow caused due to changes in polarity of electromagnets. With no moving parts, the MTBF is substantially increased. Of course, you can use a retention module of some sort to hook up a fan or two on each side of the heatsink. This product will be available soon. For more information, please visit this page.

Source: Danamics

Wile E · Jul 18, 2008, 10:49 AM

Neat idea. I'll care when I see how it performs tho.

kuroikenshi · Jul 18, 2008, 10:58 AM

Cools your computer during the day and searches for Sara and John Conner at night!

Wile E · Jul 18, 2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kuroikenshi

Cools your computer during the day and searches for Sara and John Conner at night!

lol. That's the first thing I thought of too. Just watched that earlier today.

btarunr · Jul 18, 2008, 11:01 AM

But I (most of us) use the computer at nights lol.

Odin Eidolon · Jul 18, 2008, 11:01 AM

Wow!

Lozza · Jul 18, 2008, 11:03 AM

Taken from their website:

Quote:

The cooling capabilities exceeds most watercoolers in a single device.

If it lives up to that, it will be very interesting.

Wile E · Jul 18, 2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lozza

Taken from their website:

If it lives up to that, it will be very interesting.

Yeah, but what do they mean by "most". If they are talking about all those all-in-one kits on the market, that's not really all that impressive.

btarunr · Jul 18, 2008, 11:06 AM

But more convenient than maybe a Corsair Nautilus / Gigabyte Galaxy / CM Aquagate, etc.

Wile E · Jul 18, 2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by btarunr

But more convenient than maybe a Corsair Nautilus / Gigabyte Galaxy / CM Aquagate, etc.

Meh. Convenience isn't a factor for someone like me.

VulkanBros · Jul 18, 2008, 11:09 AM

We will have to wait and see....It sounds interesting tho...
And hey...you guys are seeing to many movies....The Terminator is terminated....

Darknova · Jul 18, 2008, 11:16 AM

Eh, it's probably yet another of those ideas that they try out but in the end fails. Let's see how it performs first, but I really don't see it being a hit.

kuroikenshi · Jul 18, 2008, 11:18 AM

I was a bit disappointed when I saw this on the front page... I thought TPU had done a review on it and I was excited to see how it did... but I was wrong and we have to wait.

VulkanBros · Jul 18, 2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Darknova

Eh, it's probably yet another of those ideas that they try out but in the end fails. Let's see how it performs first, but I really don't see it being a hit.

your maybe right....like Asetek´s VapoChill Micro....was genius...but did´nt hit........
....hmmmm both companies are from Denmark....what a coincidens.....

tkpenalty · Jul 18, 2008, 12:07 PM

hmm liquid metal... isnt that the stuff that eats aluminium? That DEFINATELY has a far higher thermal counductivity versus water. Wouldn't be surprised if their claims were valid.

wonder when they'll have liquid metal wc kits?

warhammer · Jul 18, 2008, 12:20 PM

More info here
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=14502
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...-may-be-on-ice
http://en.expreview.com/2008/07/18/l...10-cpu-cooler/

alexp999 · Jul 18, 2008, 12:38 PM

This could turn out to be another great idea which didnt really do as well as it should. Like the xigma all in one watercooler. or the akasa bubble (thing, lol) cooler.

I'm still gonna order my zerotherm nirvana. its purdy, lol.

Scrizz · Jul 18, 2008, 12:44 PM

This is very interesting

Silverel · Jul 18, 2008, 01:28 PM

Damn. I've been talking about this exact thing since heatpipe coolers came out quite a few years ago. Indium, Gallium, and Tin can be made into an alloy that has a melting point at anywhere between -20C and up, only problem is that it does indeed eat aluminum. Simple solution though, use steel or copper heatpipes. o.o

Thermal conductivity is quite good as well. Between 30 and 80 W/(m - K) depending on the mixture. Compare this with water at .6 W/(m - K), most thermal pastes at .5 to 6 W/(m - K), Aluminum at 240 W/(m - K), or copper at 401 W/(m - K).

The only thing that has been keeping this from happening sooner is the availiablity and efficiency of the process required to extract the different rather rare materials from raw sources. Two years ago I couldn't find more than a few specialized companies that even made the stuff. Now I've run into half a dozen without really trying.

This excites me quite a bit, needless to say.

twicksisted · Jul 18, 2008, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverel

This excites me quite a bit, needless to say.

here's a kleenex...

Silverel · Jul 18, 2008, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicksisted

here's a kleenex...

I think a shammy would do the job better

[I.R.A]_FBi · Jul 18, 2008, 02:17 PM

call a janitor1

tkpenalty · Jul 18, 2008, 02:29 PM

hmm with carbon nanotubes you could make a carbon nanotube based liquid metal vapour direct touch heatpipe cooler

cdawall · Jul 18, 2008, 02:41 PM

what a fun idea wonder how long befor it fails

jtleon · Jul 18, 2008, 02:43 PM

What about the poor surface wetting...(not related to the Chamy above). Consider your childhood days playing with that liquid mercury (so much fun!). Those beads running everywhere. To effectively transfer heat, you need thorough surface wetting (easily achieved with water and common surfactants such as jet-dry, etc.)

From my feeble liquid metal experience, I don't know how the surface wetting challenge may be solved. I smell something fishy here!

LOL
jtleon

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jtleon Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Southern Arizona, USA Posts: 197 (0.09/day) Thanks: 25 Thanked 23 Times in 21 Posts System Specs	What about the poor surface wetting...(not related to the Chamy above). Consider your childhood days playing with that liquid mercury (so much fun!). Those beads running everywhere. To effectively transfer heat, you need thorough surface wetting (easily achieved with water and common surfactants such as jet-dry, etc.) From my feeble liquid metal experience, I don't know how the surface wetting challenge may be solved. I smell something fishy here! LOL jtleon __________________ Abit NF8-V, Mobile Athlon 4000+ @2.92Ghz.....[100% 3D STABILITY] MUSHKIN DDR452 ES 1GB x 2 2-3-2-5 CR1........[TO 84°F (29°C) ] HIS ICQ3 HD3850 512MB AGP--PC P&C 610W Silencer...[AMBIENT] Or visit my Legacy Dual P3 Tualatin Work Machine RIP

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