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Old Jul 18, 2008, 11:23 AM   #1751
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that thing that was linked. I installed it and got a bout 100ppd more that is what Fahmon says.
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Old Jul 18, 2008, 05:22 PM   #1752
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Just bought a 9600gt card, will stick that into the kids 175 939 machine tonight. Not sure how much that will produce but i'd dare say atleast 2k PPD? In any case better than the measly 500PPD it's doing on the standard client.

Just hope it fits in after my chipset fan mod i had to do after the stock 1 died sometime ago. Bloody ASUS boards and their poxy cheapo fans!

Hmmm i just bought an ASUS vid card
my 9600gt @ 825/2100/1000 is pushing ~4400 ppd. 177.39 vista x64

gonna try 177.66 to see if there are any differences
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Yeah skitzo, it seems to be a bit of trial and error i have noticed with drivers etc. My problem is i am using XP32. Nvidia did a hack on 177.35 just for folders with XP!!

I noticed today we did pretty good in the stats on EOC. Not much ahead of us but a team called Estonia has a slight lead in PPD and is slowly catching us. Don't think we can let that stand

Not sure if I saw all the URL's for all the stats on the many pages i read last night? But here is a few so people can get the feel for the stats our team is throwing out there.

EOC team stats:- http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=50711

Server status:- http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html

Work Unit summary and points value :- http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html

FahMon, lets you keep track of your WU's, gives PPD etc :- http://fahmon.net/

I love keeping track of the scores and stats etc. So if anyone missed them, that will get you going.
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Yeah skitzo, it seems to be a bit of trial and error i have noticed with drivers etc. My problem is i am using XP32. Nvidia did a hack on 177.35 just for folders with XP!!

I noticed today we did pretty good in the stats on EOC. Not much ahead of us but a team called Estonia has a slight lead in PPD and is slowly catching us. Don't think we can let that stand

Not sure if I saw all the URL's for all the stats on the many pages i read last night? But here is a few so people can get the feel for the stats our team is throwing out there.

EOC team stats:- http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=50711

Server status:- http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html

Work Unit summary and points value :- http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummary.html

FahMon, lets you keep track of your WU's, gives PPD etc :- http://fahmon.net/

I love keeping track of the scores and stats etc. So if anyone missed them, that will get you going.


just installed 177.66 from guru for 8600gt xp x32, it's been running for about an hour with no issues. No noticable performance increases either. (875/1912/860 = ~1800ppd)
Will try it on vista x64 this weekend.

EDIT: moving to 177.66 from 175.xx reduced cpu load for the gpu client from 100% of a single core to ~7%

On another note, I looked into the smp client a bit more and passkeys are not being enforced so 5.9x will work if you setup a passkey for your FAH user name. My daily average should start to climb a bit thanks to the smp clients

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Just installed the 9600gt into the kids opteron 175 AMD machine, chucked 177.35 drivers straight in and without any tweaking as yet it's doing 3,400PPD. A bit better than i thought, I always assumed the 9600 series cards weren't much chop.

A nice step up for the kid as this card replaces a 7600gt.

So a total of nearly 9k PPD from my machine, with a 9800gtx and the kids machine, 9600gt using the GPU2 client. Not bad, turned off all standard clients and shut down the socket A machine completely.

See how the 96 goes for a day or so then will give it a tweak.
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Just installed the 9600gt into the kids opteron 175 AMD machine, chucked 177.35 drivers straight in and without any tweaking as yet it's doing 3,400PPD. A bit better than i thought, I always assumed the 9600 series cards weren't much chop.

A nice step up for the kid as this card replaces a 7600gt.

So a total of nearly 9k PPD from my machine, with a 9800gtx and the kids machine, 9600gt using the GPU2 client. Not bad, turned off all standard clients and shut down the socket A machine completely.

See how the 96 goes for a day or so then will give it a tweak.
the 8600 cards were poor, the 9600's are a small step below an 8800GT (less shaders, but higher clocked)
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Good stuff, thnx for posting skitzo.

wooo, catching sneekypete!!

I'm still only getting ~3000ppd on the GPU2 client after i reinstalled it.



^Should i put -advmethods in the 'additional client parameters' box?
WU's are taking appox 4hrs to churn out atm, with my 8800gts running 700/1620/1800, and my e6400 @ 3.5ghz.

Would it run faster on the 177.xx beta drivers?
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I have it ticked.

Core priority i have at lowest, i don't have locked cores ticked and -forceasm isn't needed as a flag for the GPU2 client, as GPU's don't use or need it. Just an old hang on from the old days when tinker cores were used for the Intel CPU's. AMD's used to use the -ForceSSE flag for the same effect.

With those settings and 177.35 drivers used, my lowly 9600gt is now getting 4kPPD after a little O/Cing
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Good stuff, thnx for posting skitzo.

wooo, catching sneekypete!!

I'm still only getting ~3000ppd on the GPU2 client after i reinstalled it.



^Should i put -advmethods in the 'additional client parameters' box?
WU's are taking appox 4hrs to churn out atm, with my 8800gts running 700/1620/1800, and my e6400 @ 3.5ghz.

Would it run faster on the 177.xx beta drivers?
you should check to allow for the biggest wu's, and set priority to slightly higher. I don't use any additional flags or parameters. If you are running a cpu client, the move to 177.xx will lower the cpu requirments for the gpu client. for me it dropped from a single cpu core @ 100% to a single @ 7% - 16%. i did notice an increase of ~100 ppd so far with 8600gt but it's hard to say without comparing wu benchmarks.

8600gt = ~1900 ppd, xp x32 177.66 875/1912/860
9600gt = ~4400 ppd, vista x64 177.39 825/2100/1000
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Was just over at the ESTONIA forum and they seem to have us written off.

The overtake time for them has shortened in the last few days and they have noticed. We have to be aware of teams like that.

At the current rate they will get past us inside 2 years. But the stats only relay the current numbers. Doesn't take into account a ramp, which of course it can't possibly do. I think they have some new bloke folding who is really giving it a go. There PPD has increased.

We need more dedicated folders if we are too repel teams our own size. I'm at 100% effort at the moment folding 24/7. The new 9600gt card is working flawlessly. Plus my card in this machine is still grinding away.

Do any mods or the web site owner fold for us, does anyone know? Some front page pimpage would be good to get the word out about folding and that TPU has a team.

Anyway, just a thought.

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I am currently folding 24/7 with a 3870. I am torn between waiting for the new core or buying an NV card. I could really use the 2x increase. NV cards are dropping in price. Any suggestions for the best bang for the buck?
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I am currently folding 24/7 with a 3870. I am torn between waiting for the new core or buying an NV card. I could really use the 2x increase. NV cards are dropping in price. Any suggestions for the best bang for the buck?
9600GT and 8800GT.

to be honest, the others are faster but they cant match the dollar value of the ATI cards (except when folding)

get an 8800GT, bios mod it and OC the heck out of it, and for $200 (au) you get a nice 4,500ppd
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I am currently folding 24/7 with a 3870. I am torn between waiting for the new core or buying an NV card. I could really use the 2x increase. NV cards are dropping in price. Any suggestions for the best bang for the buck?

G'day BN,

No idea what prices are in the US for cards, but i'd say the 8800gt would be around about the best bang for buck.

Should get 4kppd easily, that's being conservative. As i'm getting that now on a 9600gt, but with an O/C.

My 9800gtx is doing 5.5k PPD. But for some reason i can't keep it stable with an O/C and fold. In fact have had to under clock the thing to get it stable for F@H. Yet plays games fine if i wind it up Most likely a thing to do with the folding client and not the card itself?

Grab a cheap 8800gt would be my suggestion, on prices in OZ anyway. Will only be cheaper in the US, even though our dollars have parity. Some bulldust about distance or some such thing
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Was just over at the ESTONIA forum and they seem to have us written off.

The overtake time for them has shortened in the last few days and they have noticed. We have to be aware of teams like that.

At the current rate they will get past us inside 2 years. But the stats only relay the current numbers. Doesn't take into account a ramp, which of course it can't possibly do. I think they have some new bloke folding who is really giving it a go. There PPD has increased.

We need more dedicated folders if we are too repel teams our own size. I'm at 100% effort at the moment folding 24/7. The new 9600gt card is working flawlessly. Plus my card in this machine is still grinding away.

Do any mods or the web site owner fold for us, does anyone know? Some front page pimpage would be good to get the word out about folding and that TPU has a team.

Anyway, just a thought.

Fold On.
I looked through the over take list for threats earlier this morning, we only had two behind us. We are picking up the pace atm too... FAHmon now has me between 8100 - 9000 ppd depending on the wu. Don't forget that in the " suggested overtake time" we will move quite a ways up the rankings at our present rate

I agree we need more folders, this site has a decent number of members, there must be some willing to fold with us...

I started to put together a post to make things easier to understand, hopefully scaring away less possible donors. It needs more info, more explanations, install guides, flag lists and descriptions, trouble shooting tips etc. If it is done well, it could be in a thread by itself ( a sticky would be a big help) as informational (no discusion) Everything anyone could need to know to fold.

FAH Post, Work in Progress

I've only been folding for a month so my experience with FAH is very limited. I don't think I'm going to be able to put alot of time into completing the post in a timely fashion; it is important and I'm hoping others here will be willing to help make it happen.

If there is interest in helping, we can fire up a work in progress thread where everyone adds what they can, it'll have to be edited and re edited and continuously updated but is well worth the effort.
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Thanks for all the help guys.

I updated to the 177.66 drivers, and now it's churning out units crazily fast! FahMon says it's doing 4716ppd
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No worries infrared, glad it helped. BTW NICE production there mate.

Skitzo,

That page in progress is great, exactly whats needed. And you are right, it will need to be updated at times.

May i suggest also a few links to some stats pages. EOC the official F@H score page for our team, that sorta thing. Other than that, you've done a beaut job.

All we need is for it to be a sticky. If we could get our own little secton in the forums would be a massive boost. This single thread for all things folding is a pain. Our own section would be excellent.

If you look at the big teams, they all have there own F@H section in their forums section. Plus you may also notice that the top 4 teams are places exactly like TPU!. Hardware orientated O/C type sites. I also noticed the #2 team is Australian. a nice thing to see


Well done mate exactly what we need to get F@H up and become apart of TPU. All we need now is to get the bosses eye onto us or even a few mods to help out and we'd be away.


edit:- Just noticed on a re-read you have those stats pages listed.

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I second Auslander's suggestion. We need a separate section. Mod's, please take note. It's time to step up our efforts and commitment. Everyone benefits, including TPU.
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i got my shader clocks higher again (solved my random BSOD issue, so back to my OC'd clocks)



so, anyone peeved that my 'budget' card manages 5,120 PPD?
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so, anyone peeved that my 'budget' card manages 5,120 PPD?

HEHEHE not peeved at all. Great to see. We need all the horse power we can get.
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imagine a quad core and three of these biatches, you could get 17,500PPD + (3 GPU clients + one single core client)
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That's fookin' nice Mussels!



Problem is I use my computer quite a lot and i prefer to close the clients before gaming. I usually leave it folding overnight though.

EDIT: Looks as though you're set to overtake me soon, if not by the next stats update.... Git!
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Dunno if any of you have really given that affinity changer a shot, but it's kicking ass on my rigs...I seem to be getting work done faster on both rigs...my G/F's e6300 rig with one instance of FAH SMP is averaging around 1400-1500ppd up from 1100-1200, sure it's not huge, but that's an increase in speed of getting work done which makes her happy.

I've gote two instances of SMP on my Q6600 rig, SMP 1 is right at 1750, SMP2 is right at 1660, which at around 3410, is quite an increase from 2000-2400 folks! I have 2 WU's running at the same time and while initially slower i'm getting more work done!

My 9600GT is running right around 4300-4400ppd, OC'd to 850/2125 & 1100mem on 177.39 modded beta drivers...seems kind of on the lower spectrum, I may try larger WU's on it though. I don't have larger than 5/10mb jobs ticked on any instance yet tho.

Also, my G/F has been gaming a ton on my rig...I have left all 3 clients chruning away, and have had NO issues at all with performance, stuttering, crashing...NADA... ...so it seems they are doing their job of throttling down when a game or task comes up. My PPD does of course drop substantially when gaming, but it's still working which is cool..and I don't mind! I've included a screeny of my current FAHMon results..they've seemed to level out a bit over the last couple of days.

I hope we can get more people folding, http://kakaostats.com/t.php?t=50711 if you look under the 24HR bracket, total for TPU there's about 65K points, and 7 Days is 400K! Still pretty amazing stuff!

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this is me atm.
The am2 smp wu is a brutal one

Edit: I'm running the affinity changer on my C2D, bumped it up ~100ppd. I read it causes ppd loss with amd so it's not on that machine.
EDIT: if people want to compare performances, look for benches in FAHmon with the same completed wu.
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Nice! That AMD score is scary, but hey as long as it keeps chipping away and not spawning demons I suppose it's all good!

Yeah like I said I noticed about a 1-200PPD increase on my G/F's e6300...took a while for it to increase to almost 1500 though, but that could've been the WU it was on. I figure if it get's just a little more done, it can't hurt can it?

Still some pretty healthy numbers you're putting down man! I wonder if they'll make a super-threaded affinity changer for the GPU2? Wonder if it'd even work? Imaging getting 50% more work done on a GPU?!
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