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HTC · Aug 6, 2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fitseries3

omg... THE DIE OF THE CHIP. NOT the whole chip. the DIE. the DIE is covered by the IHS so no one can see it to prove or disprove me wrong or right.

its totally obvious that the whole chip is bigger and so is the socket.

from what i've read intel is trying to use the same hole pattern as the 775 uses. MAYBE that has changed.

im not trying to be mean but like 3-4 people have misunderstood me now. im JUST clarifying what i meant.

Sorry, dude: i miss understood you

As for the hole pattern, since in the LGA775 its so much bigger then the actual socket, it would stand to reason that it would be compatible with the Nehalem socket, despite it being quite a bit bigger: my guess is the Motherboard makers will have the final say about this.

Morgoth · Aug 6, 2008, 11:06 PM

wont work on 775

FatForester · Aug 6, 2008, 11:08 PM

I for one am glad to see Intel doing away with IDE on their X58 board. IDE's death has been long overdue.

Fitseries3 · Aug 6, 2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FatForester

I for one am glad to see Intel doing away with IDE on their X58 board. IDE's death has been long overdue.

and floppy too!

intel needs to look at other board makers boards and get some design cues. intel boards are black but thats about the only good thing. everything else is just odd.

ShadowFold · Aug 6, 2008, 11:16 PM

Yea nothing I have is IDE anymore. I do still use a floppy drive to flash my bios tho.

DOM · Aug 6, 2008, 11:17 PM

im on a ide hd right now on Vista Ultimate X64

HTC · Aug 6, 2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowFold

Yea nothing I have is IDE anymore. I do still use a floppy drive to flash my bios tho.

That doesn't work with some motherboards because the BIOS has 2 MB or more. In a Rampage Formula, for example, the BIOS is 2 MB.

Morgoth · Aug 6, 2008, 11:21 PM

there are flopy's of 2mb

HTC · Aug 6, 2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgoth

there are flopy's of 2mb

Yes, but the floppy drives are 1.44, i believe.

It would be risky, IMO, to try and flash a Motherboard BIOS with a 2.88 MB floppy disk, being read in a 1.44 MB floppy drive.

ShadowFold · Aug 6, 2008, 11:39 PM

I have a really old floppy I got off of my Pentium 1 system lol i dont think it reads 2mb ones.

Scrizz · Aug 7, 2008, 03:18 AM

I use my flash drive for flashing lol

ktr · Aug 7, 2008, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatForester

I for one am glad to see Intel doing away with IDE on their X58 board. IDE's death has been long overdue.

lol, intel had done away with ps/2 ports some time.

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Originally Posted by WarEagleAU

Glad to see Im not the only one who reads Maximum PC!!!

I been a subscriber for two year, and to tell you the truth, I hate it. After about 6 months, the articles like repeat itself w/ minor changes (because technology changes). There are times where some articles are good, but most of the time is pretty lame. I am also subscribed to CPU, which is a damn good mag, for it has "people of the industry" (ie: Rahul Sood of Voodoo, Anand Lal Shimpi of www.anandtech.com/, etc.) writing articles. There is a lot of love for linux, and always awesome technical documents in layman terms.

Hayder_Master · Aug 7, 2008, 05:12 AM

nice heat sinck from msi

Error 404 · Aug 7, 2008, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitseries3

and floppy too!

intel needs to look at other board makers boards and get some design cues. intel boards are black but thats about the only good thing. everything else is just odd.

IMO, everything is layed out much more sensibly than with standard motherboards.
The SATA ports wont be covered by a large graphics card, the RAM slots are positioned in an easily accessible place (having to squeeze between the power cable and disk drive bays is annoying), the NB is in an OK spot (nothing like a big hot NB right next to your graphics card to raise temps...) and everything fits together nicely.
I'm not too exited about Nehalem though, because I dont have money or time to buy and set up a Nehalem system; a Laptop Nehalem would be interesting though...

tigger · Aug 7, 2008, 08:43 AM

Imagine trying to get the ram out with a large cooler on though,especially in a atx case with the psu above it.

Goodbye ide,its about time.

Wile E · Aug 7, 2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tigger69

Imagine trying to get the ram out with a large cooler on though,especially in a atx case with the psu above it.

It's actually easier. I've had a board with the ram slots placed there. I prefer it, actually.

Quake · Aug 7, 2008, 10:35 AM

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omg... THE DIE OF THE CHIP. NOT the whole chip. the DIE.

First you said that the die is smaller

Quote:

the DIE is covered by the IHS so no one can see it to prove or disprove me wrong or right.

Then you said you cant be sure in that

Quote:

its totally obvious that the whole chip is bigger and so is the socket.

and then you said that it is bigger,so what is after all?

Morgoth · Aug 7, 2008, 10:40 AM

die is 45nm
IHS is biger
socket number LGA1366
happy?

Error 404 · Aug 7, 2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

die is 45nm
IHS is biger
socket number LGA1366
happy?

No.
How many transistors?

Morgoth · Aug 7, 2008, 01:11 PM

750 million

Darkrealms · Aug 7, 2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

750 million

Why don't I see a power rating in your info???

lol

Morgoth · Aug 7, 2008, 08:36 PM

do research

Darkrealms · Aug 8, 2008, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

do research

Well your no fun ; P

Wile E · Aug 8, 2008, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quake

and then you said that it is bigger,so what is after all?

The whole chip, and the die are 2 entirely different things.

DrPepper · Aug 8, 2008, 07:50 AM

Unless this gives a 100% increase in frames per second I will wait a while before I change my core 2.

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