Powercolor PCS HD 4850 512 MB

W1zzard · Aug 14, 2008, 10:31 AM

To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/P...r/HD_4850_PCS/

WarEagleAU · Aug 14, 2008, 09:46 PM

Excellent review as always W1zz. One thing I like about this is the cooler. Granted whatever cooling on the vrm and chips is substandard, its got an awesome cooler on top. Just the tip of the iceberg for the 4850, 1gb or 2gb flavors already

unclewebb · Aug 14, 2008, 11:12 PM

This is the card I'm waiting for. I thought the Toxic was going to be the card for me until I saw your noise level tests. PowerColor have got this one right.

Do you know if you can increase the fan speed a little by editing a file like you can for other 4850 cards? I'd prefer keeping it below the high 80C range when gaming. It also might overclock a little better if it could be kept cooler with more fan speed.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Aug 14, 2008, 11:33 PM

Its quiet though, thats for sure.

W1zzard · Aug 15, 2008, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewebb

This is the card I'm waiting for. I thought the Toxic was going to be the card for me until I saw your noise level tests. PowerColor have got this one right.

Do you know if you can increase the fan speed a little by editing a file like you can for other 4850 cards? I'd prefer keeping it below the high 80C range when gaming. It also might overclock a little better if it could be kept cooler with more fan speed.

yes you can edit the fan speeds in the bios with rbe

erocker · Aug 15, 2008, 12:34 AM

I really like this card. Thanks for the review W1zzard, it looks like I found another place to put a heatsink on the card! Didn't realize the memory uses a couple vrm's on the top of the card.

Aug 15, 2008, 12:43 AM

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Zehnsucht · Aug 15, 2008, 08:18 AM

Thank you W1zzard for putting relative performance/resolution!!!

coxon · Aug 15, 2008, 08:38 AM

Hello.

Thanks for the review. But im missing the temperature. Is there no thermal diode on this card?

cox

W1zzard · Aug 15, 2008, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coxon

Hello.

Thanks for the review. But im missing the temperature. Is there no thermal diode on this card?

cox

temps are there, please read the review again

coxon · Aug 15, 2008, 08:47 AM

Oh, there were hidden in overclocking area. Something im not interested first time.

Thank you.

roadie · Aug 15, 2008, 10:40 AM

Nice review, this card looks like one of the best in the 4850 range. Do you think there's any chance of getting the Gainward Golden Sample 4850 in for a review? It looks like a decent all round card:

Link

Dctran · Aug 15, 2008, 10:52 AM

Hi W1zzard
I need PowerColor PCS HD4850 512M original BIOS, can you give it to me?

tigger · Aug 15, 2008, 11:05 AM

Is the gainward golden sample the same as the normal gainward 4850? Is it just the cooler that is differant?

Nice review w1zzard,i would like to see you review a gainward golden sample for the above reasons.

As far as i know,gainward is owned by palit.

Scrizz · Aug 15, 2008, 12:16 PM

lol puppy eyes

danbfree · Aug 15, 2008, 10:37 PM

Nice core OC, lousy memory... my stock Visiontek only does 685 core stable but hits 1100 easily on the memory even with voltage tweaks on the core and fan speed increases. I got mine at Fry's before the official launch so maybe the core yields are better now?

W1zzard · Aug 16, 2008, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dctran

Hi W1zzard
I need PowerColor PCS HD4850 512M original BIOS, can you give it to me?

the bios is in the vga bios collection

KieranD · Aug 16, 2008, 02:44 AM

there is a 2gb version too and apparently it works good when the memory is oc'd

in Unreal tournament 3 i get 40-50fps with my 8800gt its not FAIR! 1280x1024 so its not even high res

Dctran · Aug 16, 2008, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

the bios is in the vga bios collection

I have a HIS HD4850, I want flash BIOS to Powercolor PCS HD4850
But in the VGA BIOS collection

Quote:

GPU Device Id: 0x1002 0x9442
TEST
Wekiva RV770 B50102 Board
(C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies Inc.
ATOMBIOSBK-ATI VER011.004.000.003.029193
B3B50102.105
Clock State 0
Core Clk: 625.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags: Boot
Clock State 1
Core Clk: 500.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 750.00 MHz
Voltage: 1.046 V
Flags:
Clock State 2
Core Clk: 665.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags:
Clock State 3
Core Clk: 665.00 MHz
Memory Clk: 993.00 MHz
Voltage: VID1
Flags:

I worried this BIOS is a test version or bad BIOS
So I want PowerColor PCS HD4850 512M original BIOS
The BIOS in vga BIOS collection is original BIOS?

W1zzard · Aug 16, 2008, 09:14 AM

this is the bios that wason the card, yes it doesnt look like a production bios. i uploaded it myself so it does work with the card

Dctran · Aug 16, 2008, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

this is the bios that wason the card, yes it doesnt look like a production bios. i uploaded it myself so it does work with the card

Thanks, I try flash this BIOS by WinFlash2.0.12 and I have a message "P/N mismatch"

W1zzard · Aug 16, 2008, 11:55 AM

use the -f parameter .. you can run winflash from a command prompt and it accepts the same command line parameters as atiflash for dos

Dctran · Aug 16, 2008, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

use the -f parameter .. you can run winflash from a command prompt and it accepts the same command line parameters as atiflash for dos

Is this correct?

C:\atiflash -fp -p 0 powercolorHD4850.bin

Scrizz · Aug 16, 2008, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dctran

Is this correct?

C:\atiflash -p -f 0 powercolorHD4850.bin

there ya go

W1zzard · Aug 16, 2008, 08:57 PM

atiflash -f -p 0 powercolorHD4850.bin

Aug 14, 2008, 10:31 AM	#1
W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,758 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,207 Times in 3,156 Posts System Specs	Powercolor PCS HD 4850 512 MB To read this review go to: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/P...r/HD_4850_PCS/ Last edited by W1zzard; Aug 14, 2008 at 09:06 PM.

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unclewebb RealTemp Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 903 (0.50/day) Thanks: 15 Thanked 394 Times in 271 Posts	This is the card I'm waiting for. I thought the Toxic was going to be the card for me until I saw your noise level tests. PowerColor have got this one right. Do you know if you can increase the fan speed a little by editing a file like you can for other 4850 cards? I'd prefer keeping it below the high 80C range when gaming. It also might overclock a little better if it could be kept cooler with more fan speed.

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coxon Join Date: May 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 3 (0.00/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Oh, there were hidden in overclocking area. Something im not interested first time. Thank you.

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Dctran Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi W1zzard I need PowerColor PCS HD4850 512M original BIOS, can you give it to me?

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danbfree Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 27 (0.02/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Nice core OC, lousy memory... my stock Visiontek only does 685 core stable but hits 1100 easily on the memory even with voltage tweaks on the core and fan speed increases. I got mine at Fry's before the official launch so maybe the core yields are better now?

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W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,758 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,207 Times in 3,156 Posts System Specs	this is the bios that wason the card, yes it doesnt look like a production bios. i uploaded it myself so it does work with the card

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W1zzard Benevolent Dictator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 13,758 (4.18/day) Thanks: 184 Thanked 10,207 Times in 3,156 Posts System Specs	use the -f parameter .. you can run winflash from a command prompt and it accepts the same command line parameters as atiflash for dos

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