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Old Sep 14, 2008, 12:33 PM   #1
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GeForce GTX 260 with 216 Stream Processors Pictured, Benchmarked

NVIDIA is dressing up a new version of the GeForce GTX 260 GPU as reported earlier, with a revision that carries 216 shader units (against 192 for the original GTX 260). Chinese website Bear Eyes has pictured the new GPU. Other than the increased shader count, that should provide a significant boost to the shader compute power, other GPU parameters such as clock speeds remain the same. The core features 72 texturing units and 28 ROPs. The core is technically called G200-103-A2 (the older core was G200-100-A2). The card reviewed by Bear Eyes was made by Inno3D, called GeForce GTX 260 Gold. This shows that the GTX 260 brand name is here to stay.



The card continues to have a 448-bit wide GDDR3 memory bus with 896 MB of memory. This card features 1.0 ns memory chips made by Samsung. On to the benchmarks, and NVIDIA finally manages to comprehensively outperform the Radeon HD 4870 512M in its category. Benchmark graphs for (in the order) 3DMark Vantage, Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts (without and with AA at 1680x1050 px), and Crysis, are provided below. To read the full (Google Translated) review, visit this page.




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I think that it will be about ~5% faster than vanilla GTX260, but how about the price? This card can kill GTX280 sales if its too cheap, so I'm thinking that they will up the price by ~30-50 dollars or so. But if its too expensive then people will buy HD4870. The colour scheme that Inno3d chose for the of cooler looks great, simple but pretty.
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looks like they added a whopping 2-3 fps average. sweet! (sarcasm)
Still think this was a pointless move on Nvidia's part.
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1 GB version of ATI's HD4870 equipped with 5 or 6Gbps (1125/1250Mhz) GDDR5 will kill even NVIDIA's GTX280.
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Amazing how they didnt call it a GTX1260.
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looks like they added a whopping 2-3 fps average. sweet! (sarcasm)
Still think this was a pointless move on Nvidia's part.
i agree with your point it is a pointless move from nvidias part the only thing they are demonstrating is that they are incapable of producing a better card than ATI/AMD and they are reforming recycling the older versions.
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Smart move by nVidia, this should bring the GTX260's performance past that of the HD4870. I'll stick with my 9800GTX's until the 45nm cards come out though.

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1 GB version of ATI's HD4870 equipped with 5 or 6Gbps (1125/1250Mhz) GDDR5 will kill even NVIDIA's GTX280.
No it won't, the 1GB HD4870 just barely outperforms the current GTX260. The GTX260 with the updated shaders should surpass the 1GB HD4870..

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i agree with your point it is a pointless move from nvidias part the only thing they are demonstrating is that they are incapable of producing a better card than ATI/AMD and they are reforming recycling the older versions.
I don't know what you are talking about, nVidia's GTX280 is still better than ATi's cards, I would say nVidia has produced a better card than ATi/AMD. Releasing cards at different price points is how the graphic industry works, it is what they do.
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Amazing how they didnt call it a GTX1260.
Thinking of 9800 GT, which was actually a revised 8800 GT, you re sooo right.

If ATI wouldn't came with HD 4000 series, we were still going to pay 500 $ for GTX 260!
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nice, 3 frames over the regular 260 ... Hope it doesn't cost any more than the regular one.
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all the benchies are pro-nvidia arent they? as in suit nvidia better over ati
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who cares about vantage
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Heh, didn't notice the High text in Vantage, meaning 1680x1050 resolution +2xAA & 8xAF. Wondered why it scored lower than my 9800GTX+ =)

edit: tested with High my self and GPU score: 3660, so mighty fast those cards are.
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Performance-class products as the ATI Radeon HD 4870, its outstanding performance to force the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 price cuts Versus, ATI is a small number of products in recent years to force the prices Bianzhen NVIDIA products, but in some GeForce GTX 260 still in the testing Failure to fully account for the performance on the edge.

NVIDIA has released a new version GeForce GTX 260, part of the test results to win, but in most games in the opening AA circumstances, the new GeForce GTX 260 still lagging behind.


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Smart move by nVidia, this should bring the GTX260's performance past that of the HD4870. I'll stick with my 9800GTX's until the 45nm cards come out though.



No it won't, the 1GB HD4870 just barely outperforms the current GTX260. The GTX260 with the updated shaders should surpass the 1GB HD4870..



I don't know what you are talking about, nVidia's GTX280 is still better than ATi's cards, I would say nVidia has produced a better card than ATi/AMD. Releasing cards at different price points is how the graphic industry works, it is what they do.
what are YOU talking about did you forget the 4870X2?and please dont tell me that it has two cores because it is just an excuse. nvidia is not ready yet to take ATI head to head in time they will have a better card but for now let us enjoy ATIs performance.
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Not so much a dumb move by Nvidia but a confusing one. Two different cards with two different price points but the same naming scheme? This should have been the GTX 260 from the get go.

It is amazing to see how much improvement there is by just "unlocking" 24 shaders....
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HKEPC Review
Beareyes Review as mentioned earlier by mascaras
Results I've seen from reviewers aren't favorable on the new 260

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This is not what I though we would get, 1-5fps is hardly worth it.
Now maybe this will push the GTX260 to around $200.00, then have the GTX260gold $235.00, thats about the only way they can keep ATI down at this price point.

I wanted DX10.1 on this card, and DDR5, guess im waiting till 09 for new cards.
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GTX260 gold won 16, 4870 won 10, how is that not favorable.
this is the flawed logic I see all over now days, if ATI wins 1 and NV wins 5 ppl cheer ATI is king.
Just like the HC review 10 games were tested NV won 5, ATI 3, 2 were CPU bound and a tie, ppl still clamed ATI won.

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From what I just read in the article it seems that this is not a 55nm chip; Seems like a good way to waste cash. They should have just done this on their 55nm 260's.
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GTX260 gold won 16, 4870 won 10, how is that not favorable.
this is the flawed logic I see all over now days, if ATI wins 1 and NV wins 5 ppl cheer ATI is king.
Just like the HC review 10 games were tested NV won 5, ATI 3, 2 were CPU bound and a tie, ppl still clamed ATI won, is their some thing in the red color that retards ppls ability to think?
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GTX260 gold won 16, 4870 won 10, how is that not favorable.
this is the flawed logic I see all over now days, if ATI wins 1 and NV wins 5 ppl cheer ATI is king.
Just like the HC review 10 games were tested NV won 5, ATI 3, 2 were CPU bound and a tie, ppl still clamed ATI won, is their some thing in the red color that retards ppls ability to think?
Look at the review and stop being so selective. The 260 takes a noticeable lead when there is no AA/AF. Once AA/AF is used the 260 lead is nullified and in other cases within margin of error. Also, using games like Lost Planet and PT Boats have always done better on nvidia cards. But when you compare the old 260 with the new 260 the results are extremely minimal when AA/AF is used. If you have such a problem with the overall observations of the review contact the author(s) who created them and inquire there. As I see it the results are conclusive enough for me to see it for what it really is. And, those who currently have 260 should have no need to upgrade to the new 260 IMO.

The later portion of your post has no merit to my post. I never implied or made mention to the ATI cards being better. I was making an opinion on the new 260. Funny how you completely overlooked this post

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well I looked at you system and saw the ATI cards, then saw you saying it was not good, you know ATI fan boys vs NV fan boys its all ways the same, poke them when you can.

Your right its not a huge jump, but its better then the gtx260, and IMO better then the 4870.
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well I looked at you system and saw the ATI cards, then saw you saying it was not good, you know ATI fan boys vs NV fan boys its all ways the same, poke them when you can.

Your right its not a huge jump, but its better then the gtx260, and IMO better then the 4870.
In other words you would have agreed had I used a nvidia card . This is failed logic right here because you don't care for posts from individuals with a ATI video card.

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Not that big of an improvement compared to the original gtx260, I was expecting more
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