Should we have a seperate "physx" section in our system specs?

hat · Sep 24, 2008, 07:14 PM

Now that a lot of us (even me, heh) are using physx technology, I thought it would be cool if we had a seperate space for physx in our system specs. For example look at my "video card" specs. I have both an 8600gts and an 8500gt listed, with the 8500gt being used for physx of course. I just think it would be cool if we had a spot where we could put our physx info. Thoughts?

niko084 · Sep 24, 2008, 07:19 PM

Probably take a minute to add it, I think it would be kinda nice.

iStink · Sep 24, 2008, 07:33 PM

They should make it so if you have physx, you click yes, then specify if it's by a second card or built into your video card, if it's second card you type it in.

magibeg · Sep 24, 2008, 07:35 PM

I think it would probably be fine just to put in your physx card in the same spot where you put your graphics card information.

Kursah · Sep 24, 2008, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magibeg

I think it would probably be fine just to put in your physx card in the same spot where you put your graphics card information.

+1

I don't really think PhysX is big enough to warrant extra specs...if you really need the extra space...you could probably also fit more info in the Bench Scores/Extra Info area.

WarEagleAU · Sep 24, 2008, 07:49 PM

+1+1 to magibeg and Kursah. However, if W1zz wants to put it in, I wont complain.

NastyHabits · Sep 24, 2008, 08:35 PM

Too few people use it.

ShadowFold · Sep 24, 2008, 08:37 PM

Like
Video card: HD 4870X2 QuadFire
PhysX Card: 8600GTS
I think that would be cool

Sonido · Sep 24, 2008, 08:44 PM

I still don't understand why people won't just buy the Ageia card. It will work with ATi cards. Though, I love the challenge of trying to make it work. I just wish I had an 8xxx series card right now

. Oh my god... the though has given me a joygasm.

niko084 · Sep 24, 2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonido

I still don't understand why people won't just buy the Ageia card. It will work with ATi cards. Though, I love the challenge of trying to make it work. I just wish I had an 8xxx series card right now

. Oh my god... the though has given me a joygasm.

It's overpriced and doesn't have the power of even a x1300.....

So namely why buy an Ageia when you can buy a 8800gs/gt or heck even for around the same price and get MASSIVELY more power.

Kreij · Sep 24, 2008, 08:50 PM

I don't think it's necessary as it can be put in with the VC, but if a lot of people want it I have no qualms about it.

Sonido · Sep 24, 2008, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

It's overpriced and doesn't have the power of even a x1300.....

So namely why buy an Ageia when you can buy a 8800gs/gt or heck even for around the same price and get MASSIVELY more power.

That is true, but it's power doesn't need to surpass that level... yet. That card can render

Sphere collision tests: 530 million per second
Convex collision tests: 530,000 per second

It is also mostly compatible, so there is no tinkering to see if it will work with this card or not. I do agree, though, that the card is way too expensive. If it weren't for the price, I would get me one. The power of an 8xxx series over this card is impressive, but it is ultimately based on if you can get it up running. Also, as you know, it's a dedicated PPU, so it shouldn't be compared to a GPU, even though it practically is one.

niko084 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonido

That is true, but it's power doesn't need to surpass that level... yet. That card can render

Sphere collision tests: 530 million per second
Convex collision tests: 530,000 per second

It is also mostly compatible, so there is no tinkering to see if it will work with this card or not. I do agree, though, that the card is way too expensive. If it weren't for the price, I would get me one. The power of an 8xxx series over this card is impressive, but it is ultimately based on if you can get it up running. Also, as you know, it's a dedicated PPU, so it shouldn't be compared to a GPU, even though it practically is one.

From everything I have seen so far, its not too hard to get them up and running...
But it is an easy way around it for the less technically or reading inclined

Tatty_One · Sep 24, 2008, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonido

That is true, but it's power doesn't need to surpass that level... yet. That card can render

Sphere collision tests: 530 million per second
Convex collision tests: 530,000 per second

It is also mostly compatible, so there is no tinkering to see if it will work with this card or not. I do agree, though, that the card is way too expensive. If it weren't for the price, I would get me one. The power of an 8xxx series over this card is impressive, but it is ultimately based on if you can get it up running. Also, as you know, it's a dedicated PPU, so it shouldn't be compared to a GPU, even though it practically is one.

Agreed, but the point is, if your an NVidia card owner (8 series +), today you dont even need any 2nd card providing your main card is pretty powerful, yesterday (so to speak) you did so thats gotta be good.

In GRAW2 I had a 6FPS difference (according to FRAPS) at 19xx between using just a heavily overclocked GTX260 and using the 260 with stock 8800GT, now I am thinking, considering the power draw etc, is it really worth it. Then....if you have a mid to low main card, why not just buy a 2nd and go SLi rather than buy a slightly cheaper 2nd and use it only for 5 games?....just my thoughts!

Sonido · Sep 24, 2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatty_One

Agreed, but the point is, if your an NVidia card owner (8 series +), today you dont even need any 2nd card providing your main card is pretty powerful, yesterday (so to speak) you did so thats gotta be good.

In GRAW2 I had a 6FPS difference (according to FRAPS) at 19xx between using just a heavily overclocked GTX260 and using the 260 with stock 8800GT, now I am thinking, considering the power draw etc, is it really worth it. Then....if you have a mid to low main card, why not just buy a 2nd and go SLi rather than but a slightly cheaper 2nd and use it only for 5 games?

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

From everything I have seen so far, its not too hard to get them up and running...
But it is an easy way around it for the less technically or reading inclined

@Tatty:

See, that makes sense. If you have it, might as well use it right

@niko084:

Say that to the Vista users

All in all,(At the moment) I believe the Ageia card would be best (except for the price). The only thing is with the disappearance of the PCI bus it might become crapware too quickly.

niko084 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonido

@Tatty:

See, that makes sense. If you have it, might as well use it right

@niko084:

Say that to the Vista users

All in all,(At the moment) I believe the Ageia card would be best (except for the price). The only thing is with the disappearance of the PCI bus it might become crapware too quickly.

Yeah, I know under Vista is a mess, that's what windows 7 is for

Pre-Alpha FTW.

Solaris17 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

It's overpriced and doesn't have the power of even a x1300.....

So namely why buy an Ageia when you can buy a 8800gs/gt or heck even for around the same price and get MASSIVELY more power.

becauser your omfg awsome 8800 will pull the same numbers as my agea card doesnt that make you sad

niko084 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solaris17

becauser your omfg awsome 8800 will pull the same numbers as my agea card doesnt that make you sad

It's physx, you don't buy one for a few fps increase, you buy them for the IQ....

Solaris17 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:24 PM

sorry that came off kinda harsh didnt mean to be an ass but its true in the future the graphics cards can do more but as of right now spending $200 on a card ont get you a shred more performance physx cards just arent stressed enough

oli_ramsay · Sep 24, 2008, 09:27 PM

If I had a physx card I would have voted yes, but I don't so... lol

Hardly any games use Physix, the only 1 I can think of is UT3, so I think it's a bit too obscure to include in specs IMO.

niko084 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solaris17

sorry that came off kinda harsh didnt mean to be an ass but its true in the future the graphics cards can do more but as of right now spending $200 on a card ont get you a shred more performance physx cards just arent stressed enough

No stress

But ya you are right, the performance difference is completely nill, but the IQ increase you get from an 8800 is far better than that of a standard physx correct?

Quote:

Originally Posted by oli_ramsay

If I had a physx card I would have voted yes, but I don't so... lol

Hardly any games use Physix, the only 1 I can think of is UT3, so I think it's a bit too obscure to include in specs IMO.

Lots do, but not enough.

Solaris17 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niko084

No stress

But ya you are right, the performance difference is completely nill, but the IQ increase you get from an 8800 is far better than that of a standard physx correct?

Lots do, but not enough.

if you mean IQ as in what it does in a game than ya i mean if you run sli which is the only way i can see it having a benefit and you use one of the 2 cards for physx than absolutely your game will do better because of the cards IQ ability but in situation when you are not running sli say a 9600 and a 8400 were the 8400 does nothing but physx and contributes nothing to the game other than that i don't see it doing much.

Fastmix · Sep 24, 2008, 09:38 PM

Why not? Is going to get bigger and bigger anyway.

Solaris17 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastmix

Why not? Is going to get bigger and bigger anyway.

what?

niko084 · Sep 24, 2008, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solaris17

if you mean IQ as in what it does in a game than ya i mean if you run sli which is the only way i can see it having a benefit and you use one of the 2 cards for physx than absolutely your game will do better because of the cards IQ ability but in situation when you are not running sli say a 9600 and a 8400 were the 8400 does nothing but physx and contributes nothing to the game other than that i don't see it doing much.

That's what I mean, an 8400 is more powerful, we know this much, so it should be able to do more physx processing in the same time, increasing your IQ..

Obviously Crossfire or SLI would be the best setup...

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