Unofficial Windows 7 Discussion

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 07:17 AM

This thread serves as a purpose to talk about all things Windows 7 whether it be new features, news, people that are participating in beta's, etc, etc.

We can start this off by what you would like to see in Windows 7 that you see in other operating systems such as the various flavors of Linux and Mac OS.

I personally would like to see them drop one of two (of the same) features. That being either alt+tab or the windows key+tab. Have one or the other not both. If you keep the latter, make that one the new alt+tab.

I would also love to see native virtual desktops.

How about you guys? What would you like to see?

Wile E · Sep 25, 2008, 07:40 AM

I'd like to see native Virtual desktops as well.

I would also like a feature like Mac's Exposé.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 07:42 AM

I am actually unfamiliar with Exposé. Might have to look that up.

exodusprime1337 · Sep 25, 2008, 07:43 AM

i'd like to see a kde/gnome type operating environment. personally the start menu is fine, but i find that i'm more interested in keeping icons off the desktop and on the quick launch instead. i'd prefer a more usefull desktop with gadget/widget like menu's that can be placed wherever and locked in.

i'd also like to see the performance vista lacked for so long. I want an operating system that can be tweaked by the os itself(control panel) and then used to set windows to work for you while gaming/ photo editing, movie watching??

just an ideo but you know it's microsoft.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 07:45 AM

What about a mode that you can preset during install for gamers/enthusiast that cut out crap that we dont need/use?

You would have:

Typical - Normal everyday users

Custom
Advanced
Business
Gamer/Enthusiast

Something along those lines and its preset for just those specific choices.

Wile E · Sep 25, 2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAsHnBuRnXp

I am actually unfamiliar with Exposé. Might have to look that up.

Quick example on Youtube. It uses the mouse to either show all windows, show the desktop, turn on or off the screensaver, etc., etc, by flinging it into one of the corners of the screen. You can set what you want each corner to do.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9p6D0r7r_zo

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 08:01 AM

Thats pretty sweet. Watching that video also makes me want somthign else as an option. I want that Object Dock like feature that Mac has inside the Windows 7 OS as an option instead of using third party apps to do it.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 04:45 PM

Does anyone know if W7 is supposed to have the new file system they dropped for Vista?

Also, do you think its that time for them to ship pure 64-bit OS's and let 32-bit die?

Silverel · Sep 25, 2008, 04:55 PM

Howbout an interactive 3d desktop where your icons are essentially a 100x100x100 pixel object that you can manipulate. On top of that, letting companies design their own icon, and include some very light physics. I want a big blue e rolling around, and a fox sitting on top of a globe. Turning your standard 2d icons into 3d avatars would be sweet. THAT would be an excuse to get a decent system imo, not Aero.

pagalms · Sep 25, 2008, 05:03 PM

For look: Black Vista-like theme, but without all that bling bling shiny animated crap, sidebars and any other completely unnecessary stuff.
For functionality: ability to choose what you want to install and what not (all those movie makers, games and all other things that i'm never used).
For performance: 64 bits, less ram usage and DX10.

newconroer · Sep 25, 2008, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pagalms

For look: Black Vista-like theme, but without all that bling bling shiny animated crap, sidebars and any other completely unnecessary stuff.

Ever heard of 'Windows Classic?" then modify it to be primarily dark/black?

pagalms · Sep 25, 2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newconroer

Ever heard of 'Windows Classic?" then modify it to be primarily dark/black?

Yes i know about Classic theme, but Vista's default theme with all bling bling turned off
looks better than it

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 10:08 PM

But isnt the whole point of having more RAM is so that the OS can utilize more of it to do things quicker?

And W7 is going to have DX11.

PVTCaboose1337 · Sep 25, 2008, 10:14 PM

I cannot post links or pics of the beta I currently have. I was disappointed somewhat. All I know is that you can rest assured know it is better than Vista.

AphexDreamer · Sep 25, 2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

I cannot post links or pics of the beta I currently have. I was disappointed somewhat. All I know is that you can rest assured know it is better than Vista.

Which Beta do you have. M1, M2 or M3?

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 10:22 PM

How can I get ahold of one? When do the RC's come out?

AphexDreamer · Sep 25, 2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAsHnBuRnXp

How can I get ahold of one? When do the RC's come out?

I have M1 that I got off of a certain bay.

I'm curious to see what Beta Caboose has.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AphexDreamer

I have M1 that I got off of a certain bay.

I'm curious to see what Beta Caboose has.

Booty Bay you mean?

AphexDreamer · Sep 25, 2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrAsHnBuRnXp

Booty Bay you mean?

If that's what they call it these days then yes.

flashstar · Sep 25, 2008, 10:48 PM

I want to see:

Minwin- 50mb kernel
Longhorn features- useful sidebar, expanded taskbar, etc.

More advanced version of Windows Media Center with more options
Faster boot speeds
More integration with the internet

Yeah, basically Longhorn.

AphexDreamer · Sep 25, 2008, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashstar

I want to see:

Minwin- 50mb kernel
Longhorn features- useful sidebar, expanded taskbar, etc.

More advanced version of Windows Media Center with more options
Faster boot speeds
More integration with the internet

Yeah, basically Longhorn.

Wait is that what you are running or what? How do you get updates?

flashstar · Sep 25, 2008, 10:58 PM

Nah. The alphas of Longhorn were always too unstable to use in a production environment (or any environment). Microsoft never released any updates for them. That picture is just a concept. It's what Microsoft was planning to create with Vista initially before resetting the development of Longhorn and beginning again with Vista. Vista was only in development for a little under two years. Microsoft scrapped the whole Longhorn program in early 2005 after they couldn't fix the infamous memory leak with the sidebar and the failure of the early version of minwin.

xubidoo · Sep 25, 2008, 10:58 PM

I did read somewhere that Win 7 is not backwards compatible ? ,if this is true then its really going to hurt sales of the new OS imo ,if not backwards compatible then forget the majority of your games/apps working

I hope that its completely unfounded but if true i wont be moving to it no matter how good it is.
Would be an incredibly stupid move by MS imho.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 25, 2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xubidoo

I did read somewhere that Win 7 is not backwards compatible ? ,if this is true then its really going to hurt sales of the new OS imo ,if not backwards compatible then forget the majority of your games/apps working

I hope that its completely unfounded but if true i wont be moving to it no matter how good it is.
Would be an incredibly stupid move by MS imho.

Well then popular games/apps would be forced to update by their publisher.

I also think it should drop legacy support. (eg IDE, serial, parallel, PS/2, etc)

AphexDreamer · Sep 25, 2008, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xubidoo

I did read somewhere that Win 7 is not backwards compatible ? ,if this is true then its really going to hurt sales of the new OS imo ,if not backwards compatible then forget the majority of your games/apps working

I hope that its completely unfounded but if true i wont be moving to it no matter how good it is.
Would be an incredibly stupid move by MS imho.

Just bad rumors, its actually going to be more compatible form what I've read.

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